Lots of praise so far for StJuste 

 

3 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Lots of praise so far for StJuste 

 

Wanted him so badly. Sucks.

22 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

I know someone who got virus twice , prior to vaccines coming out , again having virus already guarantees you nothing 

 

Vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting the virus either.  One of the really bad posters in this very thread got COVID after already getting vaccinated.  

Funny how some people had penciled in Grimes as a lock to make the roster and he gets cut before training camp. Our WR room stinks so that says a lot about him, regardless of injury.

59 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

We'll have Flacco play 3rd string now that we opened a spot for Watson

Crazy thing is it would not surprise me at this point. Newman is a big surprise waive with now only 2 QBs on the roster. Will be interesting who they are bring in after these cuts. 

4 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

The less people vaccinated , the greater the chance of a new variant , that the  vaccine may not be as effective in

From what I've read, most viruses do not "want" to kill their hosts.  Most viruses want to spread as much as possible so that the virus itself continues on.   If there are new strains, the likelihood of it being less deadly but more contagious is greater than a new strain being more deadly vs contagious.  The natural course of a virus (if it mutates) would be to "save itself" by becoming more contagious but less severe.  That's just in general. 

We don't know what will happen with Covid but as of now, the vaccine is working and seems to have basically put an end to the "pandemic portion" of this virus in the US.  And everything I've read about Covid (from experts, etc) basically states that this particular virus (the way it's "designed") can only mutate to maybe one or two more variants. (Other than the current 2-3 variants). 

6 minutes ago, eaglesflyers#1 said:

Funny how some people had penciled in Grimes as a lock to make the roster and he gets cut before training camp. Our WR room stinks so that says a lot about him, regardless of injury.

disagree. He just had a procedure, why keep him on the roster if he's not going to be ready for all TC? He'll pass through waivers and go on IR, they can give his spot to someone who can actually play, and then he can either get stashed on IR all year and come back next year, or they can figure it out when he's actually healthy. They gave him the third most guaranteed money out of the UDFA's, that says more about how they feel about him. 

8 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Crazy thing is it would not surprise me at this point. Newman is a big surprise waive with now only 2 QBs on the roster. Will be interesting who they are bring in after these cuts. 

Happened on the same day Watson to Denver rumors started circulating too 

8 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting the virus either.  One of the really bad posters in this very thread got COVID after already getting vaccinated.  

Beyond transmission prevention (1) the vaccine reduces symptoms and (2) decreasing transmission activity reduces the probability of virus mutation. Way to use a single point of data to try and make a point. The efficiency of the mRNA vaccines in preventing infection is some highest ever seen in vaccines. Do you post anything that isn't predicated on a debate fallacy?

 

15 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

From what I've read, most viruses do not "want" to kill their hosts.  Most viruses want to spread as much as possible so that the virus itself continues on.   If there are new strains, the likelihood of it being less deadly but more contagious is greater than a new strain being more deadly vs contagious.  The natural course of a virus (if it mutates) would be to "save itself" by becoming more contagious but less severe.  That's just in general. 

We don't know what will happen with Covid but as of now, the vaccine is working and seems to have basically put an end to the "pandemic portion" of this virus in the US.  And everything I've read about Covid (from experts, etc) basically states that this particular virus (the way it's "designed") can only mutate to maybe one or two more variants. (Other than the current 2-3 variants). 

Are coronavirus variants more dangerous?

Bollinger says that some of these mutations may enable the coronavirus to spread faster from person to person, and more infections can result in more people getting very sick or dying.  In addition, there is preliminary evidence from Britain that some variants could be associated with more severe disease.  "Therefore, it is very important for us to expand the number of genetic sequencing studies to keep track of these variants,” he says.  

Bollinger explains that it may be more advantageous for a respiratory virus to evolve so that it spreads more easily. On the other hand, mutations that make a virus more deadly may not give the virus an opportunity to spread efficiently. "If we get too sick or die quickly from a particular virus, the virus has less opportunity to infect others. However, more infections from a faster-spreading variant will lead to more deaths,” he notes.

14 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

disagree. He just had a procedure, why keep him on the roster if he's not going to be ready for all TC? He'll pass through waivers and go on IR, they can give his spot to someone who can actually play, and then he can either get stashed on IR all year and come back next year, or they can figure it out when he's actually healthy. They gave him the third most guaranteed money out of the UDFA's, that says more about how they feel about him. 

I didn’t realize that he would have to hit waivers to be placed on IR - makes more sense now.

54 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

There is no science to back getting the vaccine if you already had it.  

Speaking as a scientist - Wrong!

25 minutes ago, eaglesflyers#1 said:

Funny how some people had penciled in Grimes as a lock to make the roster and he gets cut before training camp. Our WR room stinks so that says a lot about him, regardless of injury.

I am pretty confident that it says more about the knowledge of our fans than it does about the WR room. 

2 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Are coronavirus variants more dangerous?

Bollinger says that some of these mutations may enable the coronavirus to spread faster from person to person, and more infections can result in more people getting very sick or dying.  In addition, there is preliminary evidence from Britain that some variants could be associated with more severe disease.  "Therefore, it is very important for us to expand the number of genetic sequencing studies to keep track of these variants,” he says.  

Bollinger explains that it may be more advantageous for a respiratory virus to evolve so that it spreads more easily. On the other hand, mutations that make a virus more deadly may not give the virus an opportunity to spread efficiently. "If we get too sick or die quickly from a particular virus, the virus has less opportunity to infect others. However, more infections from a faster-spreading variant will lead to more deaths,” he notes.

Correct.

The current data (at least in the US) is showing that the virus is not spreading at a "higher rate".  (The exact opposite is happening)  And the death rate (meaning it's become less deadly, one way or another) is down 90% from peak levels. 

47 minutes ago, devpool said:

God I hate the eagles beat. Wentz and Doug are long gone, nobody wants to hear about them so stop asking.

Yea agreed I don’t care about what went wrong with Doug/Wentz anymore. That story has already been beaten to death. Don’t get me wrong though it’ll be interesting to revisit that story in several years when the wounds aren’t so fresh, and coaches/players will be more open to talking about it with their perspective.  But for now there’s a new beginning in the Eagles franchise, and I care way more about that. 

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Correct.

The current data (at least in the US) is showing that the virus is not spreading at a "higher rate".  (The exact opposite is happening)  And the death rate (meaning it's become less deadly, one way or another) is down 90% from peak levels. 

There are different types of rates. There are deaths per day and then there is infections per a given number of people.

Some good from pandemic precautions 

Precautions taken to fight the COVID-19 pandemic, including wearing masks and distancing, are likely the major reason for a steep decline of flu cases in the U.S., according to experts.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recently reported that it had logged 1,316 positive flu cases in its surveillance network between September 2020 and the end of January 2021. During that same period last year, the CDC had recorded nearly 130,000 cases.

14 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

There are different types of rates. There are deaths per day and then there is infections per a given number of people.

The current Covid (per day) death rate is down to around 400 per day from a peak of over 4000 per day.  90% drop from peak levels. 

The current Covid infection rate is down to an average of around 14,000 per day from a peak of over 250,000 per day. 95% drop from peak levels.

The current infection rate in the US. 14,000 per day in a population of 330,000,000 is: 0.004%

The current covid "positivity rate" (Positive Covid tests vs tests given)  is currently at 2.2%

 

Hope that helps. 

Bottom line get the vaccine , people a hell of a lot smarter than the vast majority here , have gotten vaccinated.

8 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

The current Covid (per day) death rate is down to around 400 per day from a peak of over 4000 per day.  90% drop from peak levels. 

The current Covid infection rate is down to an average of around 14,000 per day from a peak of over 250,000 per day. 95% drop from peak levels.

The current infection rate in the US. 14,000 per day in a population of 330,000,000 is: 0.004%

The current covid "positivity rate" (Positive Covid tests vs tests given)  is currently at 2.2%

 

Hope that helps. 

All of which point to the effectiveness of masks and the vaccine.

Just now, Desertbirds said:

All of which point to the effectiveness of masks and the vaccine.

Yep.  Agreed. 

4 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Bottom line get the vaccine , people a hell of a lot smarter than the vast majority here , have gotten vaccinated.

Bottom line

This is a football forum.  Keep all that crap off the boards and talk about at least sports. No one cares to hear you guys argue over it here. 

Just now, DeathByEagle said:

Bottom line

This is a football forum.  Keep all that crap off the boards and talk about at least sports. No one cares to hear you guys argue over it here. 

I wonder if the Eagles should require vaccinations of all personnel.

Happy now?

Just now, DeathByEagle said:

Bottom line

This is a football forum.  Keep all that crap off the boards and talk about at least sports. No one cares to hear you guys argue over it here. 

Feel free to add something about sports , I didn’t see anyone here opposing sports talk ,