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20 minutes ago, Penn7980 said:

Mullens is still young and already had some game experience and production.  Not exactly a starter but could take care a few games if needed.  What a #2/3 QB is suppose to be.

They usually have 4 QBs in camp.  Quite possible they bring in another young QB.  Even if he does not push one of the QBs off roster, they can keep him in PS for more development.  Just don't know who could fit that role.

Any body in Canada these days looking for clipboard duty in NFL???

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6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Something something throwaways something hard worker something something 400lb squats.

 

(insert link to 5th string slot WR saying something good about teammate Hurts)

 

Disingenuous jester

Should've looked up Mullens first four starts as a rookie ahead of time so I was prepared. I'm slipping.

7 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Should've looked up Mullens first four starts as a rookie ahead of time so I was prepared. I'm slipping.

#13

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38 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

you can have a legit argument that hes the best QB on the roster

Dumb comments like this are why I'm less active on the board in the summer

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

#13

Case closed

Damn, I've been foiled. Rock solid opinion by one of our finest.... LOL

36 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Flacco's 100 years old

Mullens had 4700 yards and 25 touchdowns 

Hurts is on pace for 4000 yards and 24 touchdowns

 

The problem with this board, and hoagie mouth Eagle fans in general are they believe the media hype of Hurts. He's TERRIBLE he looked terrible last year. he was sold to use as a complete reach but a really good back up but yet because the media and the eagles have sold him to us as the next guy(even though they wanted to keep wentz, they tried to trade for Zach Wilson and have been in the Deshaun Watson talk you guys believe it. 

 

Well he has the upcoming season to show us what he's capable of. He's actually going to have some decent weapons unlike what Wentz has been given

We'll see what he can do

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

#13

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1. Patrick Mahomes: This is an easy one. Young, extremely talented and proven playoff success. Mahomes has it all.
2. Justin Herbert: He isn’t the second-best quarterback in the NFL right now, but Herbert is a bet on the future while also being good enough to win now with the right pieces around him. He can make all the throws and is athletic enough to scare the opposing defense. Plus, he is on a rookie deal.
3. Russell Wilson: His age (32) is a concern, but when it comes to winning a big game, there aren’t many quarterbacks I’d take ahead of him. I will take a 3-4 year window with Wilson over a bigger window with lesser players.
4. Josh Allen: I can’t believe I have Allen this high, but his play last season was extremely impressive. Allen is the quarterback everyone thought Carson Wentz would turn into. Plus, he is young, cheap (for now) and has no significant injury history.
5. Aaron Rodgers: Obviously Rodgers’ age plays into him being this low, as he is a top-two quarterback in the NFL right now. But at 37-years old, he has to fall behind some of the younger, elite quarterback prospects.
6. Dak Prescott: I am not super concerned about Prescott’s ankle injury, although after watching injuries ruin Wentz’s career, it is something to take into consideration. Having to pay him a big-deal isn’t ideal, but Prescott can make all the throws, is a threat to run, has won big games and it is clear his teammates really like playing with him.
7. Joe Burrow: Burrow would be higher on this list if he didn’t suffer a major knee injury, as I saw first-hand in Philadelphia how a knee injury can impact a player’s career. Burrow, however, is a far-more accurate passer than Wentz, which is reason to think he will rebound better.
8. Deshaun Watson: Watson is tough to place, as he clearly has a ton of talent, but that talent hasn’t resulted in many playoff wins. It will be interesting to see how he does with a new team — which very well could be the Eagles.
9. Lamar Jackson: Jackson’s resumé speaks for itself. I do think the concerns about his ability to throw the ball long-term are fair, but he is so dangerous and so dynamic that he has to be top-10 on this list.
10. Tom Brady: Brady’s age plays into this. All of the young quarterbacks below Brady I am not super crazy about, so I’ll take win-now Brady for one more season over the future of the younger prospects.
11. Kyler Murray: Murray has all the potential, but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t nervous putting him this high.
12. Justin Fields: Fields is my favorite quarterback in the 2021 NFL Draft class. He can win from the pocket, he has a cannon for an arm, he has won big games in college and he can make big plays on the ground when the play breaks down. Fields is a winner, and I’d be very surprised if he didn’t succeed in the NFL.
13. Jalen Hurts: Forget that Hurts was a second-round pick. Trust your eyes. What I know is that everything I saw from Hurts makes me think he belongs in the same class as the elite, young quarterback prospects in the NFL. He is not an elite quarterback yet, but If Hurts was a top-five pick, and turned in the season he did last year, nobody would blink an eye at him being No. 11. Hurts is an accurate thrower, is smooth in the pocket and is a legit threat with his legs. His teammates love him and he seems to have that "it" factor a quarterback needs to succeed. Add in the fact that he is 22-years old and on a rookie deal, and Hurts checks off pretty much every-single box you want from a quarterback to build around.
14. Matthew Stafford: Stafford’s inability to turn his team into a consistent winner is worrisome — until you remember it is Detroit. This is a huge year for Stafford in Los Angeles, as he now gets a chance to prove he can win with the right pieces around him.
15. Trey Lance, San Francisco: Lance coming from NDSU does scare me, considering how things went with Wentz, but his potential is just too high to ignore. He has the lowest floor of the quarterbacks, but he might have the highest ceiling as well.
16. Trevor Lawrence: I am not as high on Lawrence as others are. Watching him lose the biggest game of the season in back-to-back years is concerning, especially when he was outplayed by the opposing quarterback in each game.
17. Zach Wilson: Wilson has major bust potential, as he really only shined for one season at BYU. His potential, however, puts him above the other quarterbacks on this list, all of whom have either been disappointments or are too old to build around.
18. Jared Goff: I think a little too much is made at times of Goff only being successful because of Sean McVay. Goff is ninth in the NFL in on-target throws in the league, and any quarterback that is that accurate is worth building around. Winning in Detroit, however, will be tough.
19. Kirk Cousins: Cousins is extremely up-and-down, but any quarterback that goes into New Orleans and beats the Saints in a playoff game can be a winning quarterback.
20. Baker Mayfield: Mayfield is kind of in the same camp as Stafford, as he has no excuse not to win this season. If he does, he very well could be in top-10 discussions. If he doesn’t, it wouldn’t be shocking to see Cleveland move on.
21. Daniel Jones: There is something intriguing about Jones’ combination of size, arm strength and athleticism that interests me more than the quarterbacks below him. The turnovers, however, are a major problem.
22. Tua Tagovailoa: Tagovailoa hasn’t shown the kind of potential you would hope to see from a pick that high, but it is early, and he at least showed he can play for a winning team.
23. Ben Roethlisberger: Roethlisberger might be gone after this upcoming season, and his late-season collapse is definitely concerning.
24. Ryan Tannehill: Tannehill really needs a good supporting cast around him to succeed, and his floor is very low as we saw in Miami. His record in Tennessee is impressive but I’d still be nervous making him my franchise quarterback.
25. Matt Ryan: Ryan is older, and despite having talent, hasn’t looked great recently.
26. Sam Darnold: Darnold has been dealt one of the toughest hands in all of sports — he has Adam Gase as his head coach. I’m very interested to see what he could be with a better play caller on the sideline, and we will get that chance this season in Carolina.
27. Mac Jones: Jones’ ceiling is limited because he can’t be a dynamic player when the play breaks down. He is really going to depend on the talent and coaching around him, which is worrisome for his long-term success.
28. Drew Lock: Lock is young and capable of putting together some good performances, as he has shown this season. The potential is there, and he is on a rookie deal, but I remain skeptical.
29. Derek Carr: Carr is a player that seems to have all the potential, and looks great at times, but has never been able to put it all together.
30. Carson Wentz: Wentz holds the worst trifecta a quarterback could hit. He is signed to a big deal. He has suffered two major injuries. He might be really bad. It is hard to come up with any argument to start your franchise with Wentz outside of a 11-game stretch in 2017. He can still make some throws no other quarterback can make, but those throws are few-and-far between. Wentz’s two biggest issues, even when healthy, however, is that he is wildly inconsistent and among the least accurate quarterbacks in the NFL. That is a recipe for disaster — and for a 35-32-1 career record.
31. Ryan Fitzpatrick: Fitzpatrick has started 10-plus games in the NFL seven times. He has had a winning record in one of them. Perhaps a talented team in Washington will change things, but Fitzpatrick is more of an elite backup than a quarterback you want starting each week.
32. Taysom Hill: Hill is not a good enough passer to be an every week starter in the NFL, something the Saints will find out the hard way this season.

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

#13

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There are two BYU guys and two Alabama guys on that list.

BYU is as good as Alabama🤔

Get a grip, people -- Mullens is brought in as a camp arm.  Starters don't play in the preseason anymore, and does anyone seriously believe Flacco would be okay with throwing 100-120 preseason passes?

It's already been said -- Fields and Mac Jones were on the board at the Eagles' pick -- they chose to let them pass and go with Hurts for this season.  Bringing Nick Mullens in has no effect on that plan.

4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

There are two BYU guys and two Alabama guys on that list.

BYU is as good as Alabama🤔

Math checks out.

Also two NDSU guys, so therefore, are as good as Alabama also.

Just now, Alphagrand said:

Get a grip, people -- Mullens is brought in as a camp arm.  Starters don't play in the preseason anymore, and does anyone seriously believe Flacco would be okay with throwing 100-120 preseason passes?

It's already been said -- Fields and Mac Jones were on the board at the Eagles' pick -- they chose to let them pass and go with Hurts for this season.  Bringing Nick Mullens in has no effect on that plan.

Apparently the only way one can prove that opinion valid is by wagering 50...😄

5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

7. Joe Burrow: Burrow would be higher on this list if he didn’t suffer a major knee injury, as I saw first-hand in Philadelphia how a knee injury can impact a player’s career. Burrow, however, is a far-more accurate passer than Wentz, which is reason to think he will rebound better.
8. Deshaun Watson: Watson is tough to place, as he clearly has a ton of talent, but that talent hasn’t resulted in many playoff wins. It will be interesting to see how he does with a new team — which very well could be the Eagles.
9. Lamar Jackson: Jackson’s resumé speaks for itself. I do think the concerns about his ability to throw the ball long-term are fair, but he is so dangerous and so dynamic that he has to be top-10 on this list.

Hmmm ...... even if Watson is getting a massage in the backfield he's still above Burrow as of right now.  Lamar Jackson has a league MVP trophy.  This ranking seems .... dumb.

Hey everyone, I know that it's difficult at times to leave politics out of a conversation, but let's try to leave politics out of every forum here, except CVON. That's why CVON is over there. 

Ever since we switched from the old EMB to the New EMB, I've left politics alone for 99.99999% of the time because it's really not my place to get into those discussions anymore and I'll tell you, life is SO MUCH more enjoyable when you set all of that noise aside.

You can't entirely get away from that stuff, and you shouldn't (you need to stay informed, regardless of your political views), but have some places where you can turn that stuff off. Like TATE or other sections of the board (other than CVON). 

8 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Get a grip, people -- Mullens is brought in as a camp arm.  Starters don't play in the preseason anymore, and does anyone seriously believe Flacco would be okay with throwing 100-120 preseason passes?

It's already been said -- Fields and Mac Jones were on the board at the Eagles' pick -- they chose to let them pass and go with Hurts for this season.  Bringing Nick Mullens in has no effect on that plan.

I knew about the report that Eagles tried to trade up for Wilson but didn't know about this

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Hmmm ...... even if Watson is getting a massage in the backfield he's still above Burrow as of right now.  Lamar Jackson has a league MVP trophy.  This ranking seems .... dumb.

I think it's just that he doesn't like Jackson for the running QB thing

1 minute ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Hey everyone, I know that it's difficult at times to leave politics out of a conversation, but let's try to leave politics out of every forum here, except CVON. That's why CVON is over there. 

Ever since we switched from the old EMB to the New EMB, I've left politics alone for 99.99999% of the time because it's really not my place to get into those discussions anymore and I'll tell you, life is SO MUCH more enjoyable when you set all of that noise aside.

You can't entirely get away from that stuff, and you shouldn't (you need to stay informed, regardless of your political views), but have some places where you can turn that stuff off. Like TATE or other sections of the board (other than CVON). 

Did someone report a post in the blog again? Lol

30 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

#13

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Those rankings are awful , just awful 

"Hurts is an accurate thrower"

Based on what? Trying to miss half of the time?

3 minutes ago, Swoop said:

"Hurts is an accurate thrower"

Based on what? Trying to miss half of the time?

Yeah I thought that was an interesting take as well.

I've maintained I'm not going to use 4 games to come to any conclusions about hurts so I think it's weird that ESP after 4 games would say Hurts is accurate when the stats over 4 games suggest he's well below the league ave for completion%

20 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Well he has the upcoming season to show us what he's capable of. He's actually going to have some decent weapons UNLIKE WHAT WENTZ WAS GIVEN

I leave for 3 months and see the Wentz crowd still hasn’t gotten over Wentz....Why was this so important to say? He’s gone kiss it goodbye. 

2 minutes ago, Swoop said:

"Hurts is an accurate thrower"

Based on what? Trying to miss half of the time?

He said "trust your eyes".  I think he meant:

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4 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Those rankings are awful , just awful 

 I way I’d have Trey Lance over Roethilisburger and there’s plenty more to disagree with. 

10 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Did someone report a post in the blog again? Lol

Seems like an odd time for VA to post what he did seeing as no one has been talking politics today so...🤔

55 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

this i agree with. 97.5 has done a really bad job of finding new talent. 

I like Andrew Salchunnis(speeling) and thats about it.

Well i dont mind Kinkad but Bob and "da bro" are brutal. Egan's smart alleck schtick is tiresome.  Mikey Miss and Tyrone are brutal. 

 

97.5 only has two good radio hots.  Devon Givens and Rob Maadi.  They have Devon stuck on the evening shift for years and they have Rob stuck on random weekend shift duties.  But they are both by far the two best on air talents for 97.5.  

 

Mikey Miss is an absolute nutjob.  I have emailed him in the past during shows criticizing something he has said and he has flown off the handle telling me to come down to the station and fight him.  Obviously not a schtick given his history of flying off the handle on those that he works with like when he punched a producer and got fired and then threw something at Tyrone last year while on air.  

2 minutes ago, Swoop said:

"Hurts is an accurate thrower"

Based on what? Trying to miss half of the time?

Listening to ESP talk about Hurts is pretty amusing because he clearly has no idea what he's even saying. The other day he was going on about how he's gets the ball out quick (when he had the longest time to throw in the NFL last year), how elite his arm is (when there's multiple short passes or ducks on film) and the cliche #1 excuse, he's actually very accurate his percentage is just hurt by throwaways. 

Oh, and according to him this year is really just his rookie year basically, so we should keep that in mind throughout the season. When you gotta get your excuses started in June, you know you are in for something special come September/October. 

4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yeah I thought that was an interesting take as well.

I've maintained I'm not going to use 4 games to come to any conclusions about hurts so I think it's weird that ESP after 4 games would say Hurts is accurate when the stats over 4 games suggest he's well below the league ave for completion%

Yeah, Hurts could absolutely (and I really hope he does) ball out moving forward. Stranger things have happened.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

I'd agree it's both. If reports are true that Lurie has been more hands on then he's a problem

Majority of fans see that Howie needs to go

I don't think Howie should be making the decisions, I'm just saying the owner trusts him to do that, that's pretty bad. 

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