I don’t really like the Rams’ team building philosophy. They’ve practically ignored OL and have a bloated, top-heavy roster with wasted picks on RBs and WRs with what premium picks they did use on rookies. 

That said, I think they are a Super Bowl contender if the OL doesn’t hold them back and they don’t end up missing their old DC too much. 

4 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

It's certainly a win-now approach. For a team that has invested so much into their top players, they have good depth too. 

I don't mind trading late 1s for proven, legit players. It does put a strain on your cap though.

Are they really deep though outside of WR?

1 minute ago, schuy7 said:

It's certainly a win-now approach. For a team that has invested so much into their top players, they have good depth too. 

I don't mind trading late 1s for proven, legit players. It does put a strain on your cap though.

I'm beginning to ignore any arguments against other teams who have/will have cap issues (not suggesting you) just in general.  

We've been told the Eagles are amazing at the cap and here we are, bottom of the division, Howie kicking the can down the road and while they will get some cap relief, they certainly aren't in anything near a good cap standing.

 

According to Spotrac the Rams are over the cap for 2022, but assuming they cut Whitworth they’ll have wiggle room. 

32 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

It makes you think about the team building process.  How many years now haven't the Rams had a 1st round pick?  It seems we bash them on here for going after high priced guys while ignoring the draft yet here they are, multiple steps ahead of where the Eagles are.  

I still think at some point not having any 1st rounders in consecutive years will bite them in the butt, however it's working for them right now.

Is it?

Since McVay they lost the wild card round, did nothing in the SB, didn't make the playoffs, lost in the division round. On paper they seem to be a good NFC team, but they still have to actually prove it. Getting to the SB was an accomplishment, outside of that I don't see how you can make a definitive statement that what they are doing is working. And if this doesn't work out in the next year, maybe two, they are in for a rude awakening. 

30 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I don’t really like the Rams’ team building philosophy. They’ve practically ignored OL and have a bloated, top-heavy roster with wasted picks on RBs and WRs with what premium picks they did use on rookies.  

All you need to make the Rams' team building philosophy work is to have the greatest defensive player of the past 25 years on your roster.

6 minutes ago, RLC said:

All you need to make the Rams' team building philosophy work is to have the greatest defensive player of the past 25 years on your roster.

I was just about to say the same, Aaron Donald makes up for a lot.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Is it?

Since McVay they lost the wild card round, did nothing in the SB, didn't make the playoffs, lost in the division round. On paper they seem to be a good NFC team, but they still have to actually prove it. Getting to the SB was an accomplishment, outside of that I don't see how you can make a definitive statement that what they are doing is working. And if this doesn't work out in the next year, maybe two, they are in for a rude awakening. 

I say it's working based on the outlook for 2021.  Eagles have done nothing since the SB either so is their approach working?  It's a fun argument to have and so interesting to look at.

I'm not saying the Eagles should adopt the Rams philosophy but it's certainly worth keeping an eye on.

Just interesting to compare how the Eagles do things and what many of us thought was a great way of building a team compared to teams who people like to tear down for completely different mindsets.  I'm not saying the way the Rams or Cowboys do things is the right way.  I'm just making an observation based on comments from folks on here.

How many posters on here said they were happy the Cowboys traded a 1st for Cooper because they overpaid and now have to pay his salary while figuring out how to pay Dak and the rest.  The Cowboys have made 95% of their moves work and still fit under the cap.  No, they haven't been a dominant team or done anything impressive on the field but that's not my argument.  I'm just showing that making trades hasn't really handcuffed Dallas or LARams from making the moves they want to do.

IMO, draft picks are gold and I hate parting ways with 1st rounders.  I hated trading a 3rd for Golden Tate but was on board for trading a 1st for Cooper however.   It's one of the reasons I'm so excited about the 2022 draft but also nervous that Howie is looking at the potential 3 1st rounders as collateral for a big trade.  It just really sucks that Howie's track record in the draft is not that good. 

Again, just clarifying, I'm not saying I want the Eagles to adopt the LARams or Dallas philosophies, just observing that the moves those teams have made haven't done much in terms of having to gut their teams to fit under the cap.

51 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Are they really deep though outside of WR?

I'm not sure there's a weakness on their roster. OL is good, not great. They just lost some nice pieces on defense, so we'll see how they do this year without them. Darious Williams is a really underrated corner though. That 1-2 is really nice. They have a good roster.

They haven't won it all yet, but they're in the thick of it pretty much every year with McVay... and that was with Goff at QB. We'll see what McVay's offense looks like with a QB who can just drop back and do it all.

7 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I say it's working based on the outlook for 2021.  Eagles have done nothing since the SB either so is their approach working?  It's a fun argument to have and so interesting to look at.

I'm not saying the Eagles should adopt the Rams philosophy but it's certainly worth keeping an eye on.

Just interesting to compare how the Eagles do things and what many of us thought was a great way of building a team compared to teams who people like to tear down for completely different mindsets.  I'm not saying the way the Rams or Cowboys do things is the right way.  I'm just making an observation based on comments from folks on here.

How many posters on here said they were happy the Cowboys traded a 1st for Cooper because they overpaid and now have to pay his salary while figuring out how to pay Dak and the rest.  The Cowboys have made 95% of their moves work and still fit under the cap.  No, they haven't been a dominant team or done anything impressive on the field but that's not my argument.  I'm just showing that making trades hasn't really handcuffed Dallas or LARams from making the moves they want to do.

IMO, draft picks are gold and I hate parting ways with 1st rounders.  I hated trading a 3rd for Golden Tate but was on board for trading a 1st for Cooper however.   It's one of the reasons I'm so excited about the 2022 draft but also nervous that Howie is looking at the potential 3 1st rounders as collateral for a big trade.  It just really sucks that Howie's track record in the draft is not that good. 

Again, just clarifying, I'm not saying I want the Eagles to adopt the LARams or Dallas philosophies, just observing that the moves those teams have made haven't done much in terms of having to gut their teams to fit under the cap.

The Rams are kind of doing what the Eagles did by trying to keep a window open, just pushing more chips into the middle of the table. So either it will pay off big or they will have an epic bust. Eagles at least have a chance to turn things around rather quickly with 3 potential first round picks next year. If it doesn’t work for the Rams they are in store for a longer turn around period unless they can just nail the middle rounds, IMO. 

24 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

I'm not sure there's a weakness on their roster. OL is good, not great. They just lost some nice pieces on defense, so we'll see how they do this year without them. Darious Williams is a really underrated corner though. That 1-2 is really nice. They have a good roster.

They haven't won it all yet, but they're in the thick of it pretty much every year with McVay... and that was with Goff at QB. We'll see what McVay's offense looks like with a QB who can just drop back and do it all.

I think they have a good starting lineup. I don’t think their depth is good though. 

They seem to have exceptional injury luck, and if it continues I expect them to be right there with Tampa this year. 

For the umpteenth time the Phils prove they have zero idea how to play baseball: down by a run in the bottom of the 9th they get a lead off double and can't score the tying run.  It's like watching a Ben Simmons FT, Howie drafting a LB, Claude Giroux getting 8 million for a 16 goal season.

On 6/21/2021 at 12:22 PM, LeanMeanGM said:

Forsberg 

IDK that you can count this considering they traded Forsberg for someone exponentially better.

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Rams have talent across the board.  

Cam Akers and Darrel Henderson is as good as a RB1/RB2 as you can get in the NFL

Tyler Higbee is a legit TE1, not sure how the guys behind him stack up.  Higbee lit up the Eagles for what, 3 TDs last year?

Then you have the WR with Robert Woods, DJack, Cooper Kupp and Van Jefferson.  They drafted TuTu Atwell this year to add to them.  DJack has the injury concerns but I have this feeling he puts up 800 yards and 9 TD easily this year.  I'll take that WR group over the Eagles any day of the week.

I was wondering where UVA QB Bryce Perkins went.  I liked his game a lot in college.  He's got a great coach to help him reach his full potential. 

They have more than enough talent on defense. 

Legit SB contender and pretty impressive considering the way they have thrown draft picks around as trade chips rather than drafting players.  

Not sure about a TE1.  He's a solid TE, nothing special.  Had 3 Tds vs Eagles and 5 total all year.

I think every TE we played last year looked like an all pro.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Is it?

Since McVay they lost the wild card round, did nothing in the SB, didn't make the playoffs, lost in the division round. On paper they seem to be a good NFC team, but they still have to actually prove it. Getting to the SB was an accomplishment, outside of that I don't see how you can make a definitive statement that what they are doing is working. And if this doesn't work out in the next year, maybe two, they are in for a rude awakening. 

They did get to the SB but it was partly due to a terrible non call in the Rams favor.  Maybe the Saints still lose that game, who knows?

11 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

IDK that you can count this considering they traded Forsberg for someone exponentially better.

Based on the parameters I think it’s fair. The Carter trade worked out for the Flyers but he still won a cup and Flyers didn’t. 

4 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

They did get to the SB but it was partly due to a terrible non call in the Rams favor.  Maybe the Saints still lose that game, who knows?

They also reached the SB before they traded multiple firsts for Ramsey so they got there and it wasn’t really because of their current roster building philosophy 

32 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

IDK that you can count this considering they traded Forsberg for someone exponentially better.

They did??

I’m a Lindros fan, but a case can be made that Forsberg was the better player.  He had the better career to be certain 

16 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

I like Dillard and think he still has potential but Mailata has shown more, imo. 

And I don't disagree with that. Mailata has played more and you could argue has the higher ceiling. But I think are ruling Dillard out too easily.

7 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

They did??

I’m a Lindros fan, but a case can be made that Forsberg was the better player.  He had the better career to be certain 

Better career, longer career, but not a better player.  Lindros had it all: great skater with locomotive speed, soft soft hands, blistering and accurate shot, amazing vision, and of course, used the body to punish and intimidate. There is a reason Lindros cost so much trade capital.  Unfortunately the concussions did him in.  Want to have some fun?  Throw on your favorite music and watch Lindros highlights.  

3 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And I don't disagree with that. Mailata has played more and you could argue has the higher ceiling. But I think are ruling Dillard out too easily.

It will be fun.  I like Mailata as he reminds me of a young peters that is bigger and more athletic.  And he seems to have that want to hit and punish defenders.  Dillard reminds me more of Tra- big guy but more of a finesse LT.  I hope Mailata makes it an easy decision to play him.

10 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Is it?

Since McVay they lost the wild card round, did nothing in the SB, didn't make the playoffs, lost in the division round. On paper they seem to be a good NFC team, but they still have to actually prove it. Getting to the SB was an accomplishment, outside of that I don't see how you can make a definitive statement that what they are doing is working. And if this doesn't work out in the next year, maybe two, they are in for a rude awakening. 

They had the #1 pick in the draft the year before he got there.

1 hour ago, SB52 said:

They had the #1 pick in the draft the year before he got there.

Ok what’s your point? 

1 hour ago, Bacarty2 said:

If you go back and watch that game the Saints ran that play about 12 times and it's a pick play. that non-call was Karma. 

A quote from Kamara: "We'd beat the s--t out of [the Eagles] cause we was rolling," Kamara said. "If we won [against the Vikings], I knew nobody was gonna stop us cause we came all the way back." 

I never liked that guy

22 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

A quote from Kamara: "We'd beat the s--t out of [the Eagles] cause we was rolling," Kamara said. "If we won [against the Vikings], I knew nobody was gonna stop us cause we came all the way back." 

I never liked that guy

I don't remember any team in history that choked in the divisional round being seen as better than the Super Bowl champion of that season -- so I guess it's even better that it bothers him so much. 

If Brandon Graham had scooped up the Brees fumble and rumbled in for the TD there's no way the Saints would have come back from 21-0 in the playoff game in NO the following year ... never mind the Jeffery drop/INT on the final drive.  To try to assert they would have won at the Linc in the 2017 playoffs?  Ludicrous.

It's a pretty comical claim, coming from a team that chokes in the playoffs every year.