39 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Yeah, Nike screwed it up. In the wrong lighting our jerseys look kind of weird.

Nike screwed it up but somehow Forrest Gumped their way into making it better.

Kelly Green Man 

29 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Kelly Green Man 

Looks like Jalen Reagor

3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don't think you can really compare the two. In early McNabb days the most accurate passers were hovering around 62-63%. In 2020 if you are in that area you are about the 30th most accurate passer in the league. 

But even early McNabb never played behind a line with Pryor at LT and Toth at RT. Honestly, if you compare some pretty great QBs first four games to Hurts, the results are not dissimilar.  Hurts actually did better than I thought he would.  He gave me hope he might continue to improve. IMHO, he outplayed Wentz last year. Was I satisfied?  No.  He ran too early, like Carson, fumbled to much and may have missed reads.  But let’s not pretend that McNabb early on, or Vick early on were better passers. 

3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

But even early McNabb never played behind a line with Pryor at LT and Toth at RT. Honestly, if you compare some pretty great QBs first four games to Hurts, the results are not dissimilar.  Hurts actually did better than I thought he would.  He gave me hope he might continue to improve. IMHO, he outplayed Wentz last year. Was I satisfied?  No.  He ran too early, like Carson, fumbled to much and may have missed reads.  But let’s not pretend that McNabb early on, or Vick early on were better passers. 

They weren't.  All the QB's we are discussing have also combined for 0 SB wins and 1 appearance.  Trying to elevate Hurts into the level of passing prowess of notoriously raw and rudimentary passers early in the careers does not reassure me.  And despite ultimately not being good enough, Mcnabb, Vick, and Wentz (all unlike Hurts) were consensus guys identified by the scouting community as first round franchise QBs.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

They weren't.  All the QB's we are discussing have also combined for 0 SB wins and 1 appearance.  Trying to elevate Hurts into the level of passing prowess of notoriously raw and rudimentary passers early in the careers does not reassure me.  And despite ultimately not being good enough, Mcnabb, Vick, and Wentz (all unlike Hurts) were consensus guys identified by the scouting community as first round franchise QBs.

Sorry, but I really did not try to reassure you.  Not sure it is in my wheelhouse. 

Better than Ben Simmons 

Obviously a terrible take but should be good debate.

 

I vote Basketball. 

13 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Does it really matter?  Mike Pouncey and Alex Mack were first round picks.

Remember when we laughed at Dallas for drafting a 3rd round center in the first?  That worked out well too.

42 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Obviously a terrible take but should be good debate.

 

I vote Basketball. 

Formula One racing.  You got the best car, you’re a winner.

43 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Obviously a terrible take but should be good debate.

 

I vote Basketball. 

Football, easily. 
 

Jordan Mailata, who never played football until about 3 years ago, will probably be the starting LT on an NFL. A position that takes more skill than most other positions. 

48 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Obviously a terrible take but should be good debate.

 

I vote Basketball. 

I think I would say basketball too. Baseball probably takes the most skill... horrible take for sure.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Obviously a terrible take but should be good debate.

 

I vote Basketball. 

I'd say Basketball as well.

Hitting a baseball at the professional level, successfully, is one of the hardest things in the sports world to do.

45 minutes ago, Swoop said:

I'd say Basketball as well.

Hitting a baseball at the professional level, successfully, is one of the hardest things in the sports world to do.

You can get lucky and hit a baseball. You can stand around on a basketball court. You can fall down in a boxing ring. Climb on a the back of a 1,300 pound horse and wrestle him for a mile. Then talk to me about hard.  

6 hours ago, Swoop said:

I'd say Basketball as well.

Hitting a baseball at the professional level, successfully, is one of the hardest things in the sports world to do.

Having the nerve to step in the batters box with 90+ MPH heat coming right at you is half the battle.  I know for a lot of kids all it takes is a few bean balls to make them walk away from a sport many still love.

6 hours ago, Swoop said:

I'd say Basketball as well.

Hitting a baseball at the professional level, successfully, is one of the hardest things in the sports world to do.

Hockey is pretty difficult too.  Hitting a baseball is the hardest.  Though being a professional golfer is rarified air as well

7 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Obviously a terrible take but should be good debate.

 

I vote Basketball. 

Every pro sport has guys with exceptional skill sets who succeed despite being marginal athletes…and exceptional athletes who fail because they can’t master the nuances of the sport.

But football and basketball are the only pro sports where you hear about people who never played the game reaching the pro level in just a couple years.  Basketball still relies on pretty significant skill acquisition; I’d just argue that it provides more opportunities for phenomenal athletes.

Football is a lower skill sport.  

22 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I'm not even going to bother to watch.  Just the mere comparison shows how ignorant and lazy minded (is that even a term) people can be.  It's like ESPN and Dallas Fans.  I assumed Philly fans were more original than that.  I suppose not.  

That was their point entirely.  There is no comparison at all.

Wouldn't it have been wiser for the Eagles to sign Mullens as QB2, draft/sign a developmental QB and not waste money on Joe Flacco?  IMO, this is the kind of contract QB2 should have.

 

Basketball is low on the "skill" spectrum. Height is simply the gatekeeper.

9 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Obviously a terrible take but should be good debate.

 

I vote Basketball. 

Weightlifting

15 hours ago, NCiggles said:

By Western European do you mean post-Renaissance Western Europe? Most Track and Field events I think have a Greek origin. I'm not sure if you wouldn't include them as having a Western European origin as they were definitely brought back by a Western European movement to start a new Olympics.  You have running but I think discus and other events stem from ancient Greece.  I think most equestrian events have that same ancient root as opposed to being modern European events.  

 

 

Agreed. I would count the ancient Greeks and Romans as being in the Western European tradition.

I think it is striking how few major sports are not of the WE tradition.

9 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Obviously a terrible take but should be good debate.

 

I vote Basketball. 

Also a terrible take. Bowling?

8 hours ago, Swoop said:

I'd say Basketball as well.

Hitting a baseball at the professional level, successfully, is one of the hardest things in the sports world to do.

LEAST skillful 

25 minutes ago, RLC said:

Basketball is low on the "skill" spectrum. Height is simply the gatekeeper.

Some of you guys evidently never played basketball. How is the 6'11" Simmons working out?