Just now, SB52 said:

C’mon, man. There are NFL throws he isn’t physically capable of making.

You got this from a 3 and a half game stretch in his rookie year?

2 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

You got this from a 3 and a half game stretch in his rookie year?

Actually, I knew this fact before he was drafted.

More importantly, you watched him throw the football last year and can’t figure this out?

8 minutes ago, SB52 said:

C’mon, man. There are NFL throws he isn’t physically capable of making.

 

Which ones? 

8 minutes ago, SB52 said:

Actually, I knew this fact before he was drafted.

More importantly, you watched him throw the football last year and can’t figure this out?

Ah so you made up your mind before he was ever on the roster. 

anyone speaking of Foles in a  negative tone should be given a 1 yr ban immediately, I dont care about his arm, he won the eagles their " first and only" SB, first and only,  want me to repeat myself again in a later post

11 minutes ago, olsilverhair said:

anyone speaking of Foles in a  negative tone should be given a 1 yr ban immediately, I dont care about his arm, he won the eagles their " first and only" SB, first and only,  want me to repeat myself again in a later post

He’s been a QB for 9 years. 1/3 of his touchdowns came in 1 year with the Eagles. He’s not a good QB. He had a lucky stretch. If Hurts is only as good as Foles then we need to draft a QB next season. 

6 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Yeah, the throw to Smith was lobbed down the field; the only time you'll ever see that in a game is on a completely busted coverage, or a DB falls over his own feet.  Once per season, maybe

So against out backfield?

10 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

He’s been a QB for 9 years. 1/3 of his touchdowns came in 1 year with the Eagles. He’s not a good QB. He had a lucky stretch. If Hurts is only as good as Foles then we need to draft a QB next season. 

I wouldn’t call his stretch lucky. Come on he out-dueled Tom Brady. He’s very inconsistent but when he was on, he was great.  

14 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I wouldn’t call his stretch lucky. Come on he out-dueled Tom Brady. He’s very inconsistent but when he was on, he was great.  

The last 6 quarters of those playoffs were the 6 best quarters of his career. He’s never been able to replicate that. It was lucky. Even his 27-2 year we were constantly getting bailed out by calls or defenders just falling down.

If Nick Foles was the starter for the whole season we don’t win the super bowl. We had the benefit that NE had no idea what we were gonna do out there. That’s why Foles has had success as a backup in 3-4 game stretch. He’s never been a successful starting QB in the NFL. 

25 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

He’s been a QB for 9 years. 1/3 of his touchdowns came in 1 year with the Eagles. He’s not a good QB. He had a lucky stretch. If Hurts is only as good as Foles then we need to draft a QB next season. 

hater, of the only qb to bring a sb to philly, wow

10 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah.  Why have scouting departments or watch film on players.  You just need to let them play in more than 3+ NFL games before you can form an opinion on a guy.  Duh!  Why wasn’t every player drafted in the 1st round?  

The scouting department that led to him being drafted in round 2? Oh ya, I’m sure they came to the conclusion that there are NFL throws he would never be able to make. 

52 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

The Dolphins are hardly the model.  They’ll have to draft another QB.  No.  You use all of the 1st and load up on good young talent.  Unless you need to use some to acquire a QB like I said.  This team can’t afford to keep kicking the can to "acquire more picks”.  What else would you want?  We would have 3 first and a ton of total picks.  2022 needs to be a good draft. Trading one of those for down the road would be the arrogant thing to do.  This team has a ton of holes.  Still.  

Not to mention the defensive talent available in the upcoming draft is impressive.   Gotta stock up in April.  Lurie should surgically implant a shock devise in Howie' brain that disables him for 60 seconds each time he tries to trade one of the 1st rounders.

57 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

The Dolphins are hardly the model.  They’ll have to draft another QB.  

So we have that in common

25 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

He didn’t out duel Brady.  Brady had 500 yards. We just made the right plays at the right time.  

41-33 says otherwise 

3 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 Before I waste my time pulling up a ton of highlights, define to me what velocity is to you.  What type of throws are you looking for exactly that you don't think Hurts is able to make with velocity.  

 

I didn't say he can't make certain types of throws with velocity. 

What I said was those videos didn't show anything impressive. 

32 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

The last 6 quarters of those playoffs were the 6 best quarters of his career. He’s never been able to replicate that. It was lucky. Even his 27-2 year we were constantly getting bailed out by calls or defenders just falling down.

If Nick Foles was the starter for the whole season we don’t win the super bowl. We had the benefit that NE had no idea what we were gonna do out there. That’s why Foles has had success as a backup in 3-4 game stretch. He’s never been a successful starting QB in the NFL. 

You don’t go 27-2 and it be complete luck. But whatever keep being mad about your team winning a super bowl 

31 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

The scouting department that led to him being drafted in round 2? Oh ya, I’m sure they came to the conclusion that there are NFL throws he would never be able to make. 

Yea, probably, that’s why they drafted him in the 2nd to be a backup as well as 31 other teams passing on him. Otherwise he would have been a top of the first round QB.

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

The Dolphins are hardly the model.  They’ll have to draft another QB.  No.  You use all of the 1st and load up on good young talent.  Unless you need to use some to acquire a QB like I said.  This team can’t afford to keep kicking the can to "acquire more picks”.  What else would you want?  We would have 3 first and a ton of total picks.  2022 needs to be a good draft. Trading one of those for down the road would be the arrogant thing to do.  This team has a ton of holes.  Still.  

This team needs a lot more than 3 players in my mind. They need quality and quantity. Not one or the other. What the Dolphins did with Tunsil and using the picks to move around while tacking on more quality picks in future years was very good. If Tua busts, because of the way they maneuvered things, they will be in a place to draft his replacement. If they simply cashed everything in then they would be stuck. 
 

But as far as acquiring picks and maximizing them? That's what we should be doing. We need easily 4 players on defense alone. Three firsts in one year just isn't going to enough, unfortunately. Especially with the way this team drafts, there's bound to be one bust out of those 3. I figure we are picking top 6  again because I think we are a bottom of the league team. With a little luck the Dolphins pick turns out to be top 15 and we get the Colts first. That's not a guarantee though. I am not saying trade out of round one with all three by any means. But the way they maneuvered from 6 to 15 then back to 11 this year is a good example. Or the way the Dolphins traded around in round 1. 
 

I don't see it as kicking the can or being arrogant, but the exact opposite actually. This team needs, a lot. Simply cashing the three picks in to me says that's arrogant, thinking that's going to be enough and everything is fixed. If they trade back once or more, which is what I would want, that would be an admission that they know this team sucks and they are trying to acquire quality picks into the following year while maintaining quality picks in 2022 to build this thing the right way, over the long term. They can create a conveyor belt of quality picks coming in, hence the factory thinking. Not just throwing a quick 3 picks on the team and then that's it. That's my thinking at least. 

14 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

You don’t go 27-2 and it be complete luck. But whatever keep being mad about your team winning a super bowl 

2013 was a beautiful year too

Lol I remember being anxious during every damn throw because I wanted the streak to continue but he didn't give a crap about the streak. I think it was the Snow Bowl when the first INT happened

The vast majority of Eagles fans on here don’t want Hurts to fail.  There are some that understand where he was evaluated coming out of college means he only has a slim chance to succeed as an NFL starting QB.  
 

His play during the 4+ games he was a starter (not 3 1/2 — please, let’s be impartial) confirmed the evaluation that he was a consensus 3rd round draft grade out of college.  He has a slim chance of success, but the Eagles will give him a chance this season.

The stars are aligning for Morey to put together a package to trade for Damian Lillard. Will probably look like the package he tried to put together for Harden. Simmons + multiple firsts + other players (Maxey and/or Matisse and/or Seth)

 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Original Sin said:

Kurt Warner has said , 99% of all throws are 40 yards and under , that being said , arm strength is great for off platform throws . Give me a QB who can spin it within those 40 yards , makes good decision and can manipulate a defense .

Brady has won 7 Super Bowls with those qualities .

Arm strength isn't just about how far you can throw it. It's how easily you can zip it 25 yards, too. Brady has a really good arm. Not great, but not even closer to weak or even average.

No one is saying that Hurts' arm strength is so poor that it's not compatible with NFL success.  It's just...not great.

No one is saying that Hurts is so short that his height is not compatible with NFL success.  It's just...not great.

No one is saying that Hurts' accuracy is so bad that it's not compatible with NFL success.  It's just...not great.

No one is saying that Hurts is so bad in the pocket with progressions and reads at the LOS that it's not compatible with NFL success (OK, well, some people are saying that one).  But it's definitely not great.

Maybe he surprises, but let's not pretend that any team in the NFL would ideally want Jalen Hurts' ingredients in the young QB they are auditioning for their starting job.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

 

Maybe he surprises

 

 

Will only be a surprise to the group here that has already made up their minds on Jalen Hurts' career.  Although I'm pretty certain that at least for some here that even if he does take a nice leap forward in year 2 and performs well that most here will continue to try to find some weakness in his game to try to spin into the defining trait of him as a QB that invalidates everything else he does well.  

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Lurie should GTFO also.  He’s part of the problem.  

He really is. More than Howie I believe because he lets Howie have a job year after year and he knows howie won't give any push back on his moronic nonsensical ideas.