1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

It’s a team game genius.  Not a QB drill.  Divine intervention.  

No freaking way. Guess QB is just as important as the 3rd linebacker then 

9 hours ago, downundermike said:

FYP

RTK needs to watch the SB for the first time then if that's what he thinks Foles did...that was quite possibly the best single game performance by a QB ever.  He literally hit every throw imaginable.

6 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

He didn’t out duel Brady.  Brady had 500 yards. We just made the right plays at the right time.  

No, he def out dueled Brady.  The defense managed to stop the Pats once (thank you BG).  Fortunately we were able to stay ahead 90% of the game and force Brady to play catch up.  Brady was actually pretty off that evening.  He missed a lot in some big spots.

46 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

No, he def out dueled Brady.  The defense managed to stop the Pats once (thank you BG).  Fortunately we were able to stay ahead 90% of the game and force Brady to play catch up.  Brady was actually pretty off that evening.  He missed a lot in some big spots.

He won for starters, but also like you said he was on all game. He also caught the ball on his trick play. Only time I've seen Brady out played in a SB.

Manning made plays at the right time. Foles was plugged in.

3 hours ago, Wentz_Era said:

No, he def out dueled Brady.  The defense managed to stop the Pats once (thank you BG).  Fortunately we were able to stay ahead 90% of the game and force Brady to play catch up.  Brady was actually pretty off that evening.  He missed a lot in some big spots.

Yeah, Nick made some huge throws. Brady had guys wide open all game.

8 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

Although I'm pretty certain that at least for some here that even if he does take a nice leap forward in year 2 and performs well that most here will continue to try to find some weakness in his game to try to spin into the defining trait of him as a QB that invalidates everything else he does well.  

Pretty certain? Ha! You already know this is exactly what would happen. I'm looking forward to it actually. 

21 hours ago, Original Sin said:

Kurt Warner has said , 99% of all throws are 40 yards and under , that being said , arm strength is great for off platform throws . Give me a QB who can spin it within those 40 yards , makes good decision and can manipulate a defense .

Brady has won 7 Super Bowls with those qualities .

6 of them by cheating

7 hours ago, Wentz_Era said:

No, he def out dueled Brady.  The defense managed to stop the Pats once (thank you BG).  Fortunately we were able to stay ahead 90% of the game and force Brady to play catch up.  Brady was actually pretty off that evening.  He missed a lot in some big spots.

The defense stopped Brady more than once. There was just 1 time it was impressive. That said Foles played the best he ever has in that game.

11 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

Will only be a surprise to the group here that has already made up their minds on Jalen Hurts' career.  Although I'm pretty certain that at least for some here that even if he does take a nice leap forward in year 2 and performs well that most here will continue to try to find some weakness in his game to try to spin into the defining trait of him as a QB that invalidates everything else he does well.  

Why are you so certain that Hurts will succeed? Most of us want him to do well, but can see potential issues where he may fail. But you apparently have figured out that he'll be a stud, why? 

2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Why are you so certain that Hurts will succeed? Most of us want him to do well, but can see potential issues where he may fail. But you apparently have figured out that he'll be a stud, why? 

Apparently, you can make up your mind to the positive too early, just not the negative.  

12 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

The hundreds and hundreds of college scouts who marked him as a 3rd, maybe 4th rounder tells me he couldnt make all the throws

Nick Saban passing on him for a guy who cant make all the NFL throws also tells me a lot.

And yes, his 3 and half games also showed a lot. 

 

Again... about a year ago we were all angry that a 4th rounder was drafted in the 2nd round. Angry that he's only going to be a "good back up" but some were ok with a good backup cause of Wentz's injuries. 

NOW, because of some media hype, off field activity ad because "he's a good dude" we forget about everything prior to this spring. It's truly amazing. 

Lol. How would you even know that?

4 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I would say the dozens and dozens reports that numerous scouting teams had him in the 3rd or 4th would be a clear indication. Each scouting team Probably has....15+ members? 

But sure man, every scout had him marked as a top 3 and a clear cut first rounder. 

Typical Bacarty. Gets called out for nonsense and then resorts to stupid hyperbole to defend his unsupported point. 

Just to be clear, not every team’s scouts watch all of the same players. There are regional scouts, National scouts and then the decision makers. Yes, they cross check players, but they don’t put all 15 (or whatever number) on a single player. 

Further, we have no idea what grade any of these scouts actually put on Hurts outside of a handful of anonymous scouts. So to say hundreds and hundreds of scouts put a 3 or 4 grade on Hurts is just a dumb statement based on nothing but grasping at straws to support a weak argument. 

Those guys are (Quarterbacks) who don't get rattled, they don't get frazzled by the situation, they are able to play through any type of adversity. That is something that's a key trait to any Quarterback, you want that type of player on your team

Read More: How Does Jalen Hurts Compare to 2021 NFL Draft QB Prospects? | https://973espn.com/how-does-jalen-hurts-compare-to-2021-nfl-draft-qb-prospects/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral

In other words, he won't puke during a game.

he may have been a reach to the media guys. We don’t know where NFL teams had him. Either way, you guys spend way too much time trash talking a 22 year old kid. He might not turn out great, but he’s our QB right now. I’m gonna hope for the best. 

1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said:

Why are you so certain that Hurts will succeed? Most of us want him to do well, but can see potential issues where he may fail. But you apparently have figured out that he'll be a stud, why? 

 

I'm not so certain that Hurts will succeed. He could very well fail.  I'm just not so certain that he will fail like so many people here talk of as if it is some absolute.  But as someone who hated the draft pick when it was made, he impressed me as a rookie and looked much better than I was expecting.  He flashed like you would hope a rookie would while also understanding that he was a rookie entering a bad situation.  He showed me that he obviously has a good amount of talent and far better passing ability than I had thought entering the season and its clear as day that the kid has exactly the type of work ethic and leadership ability that you would want in a young QB.  

I'm very excited to see what he can do in year two.  He could very well disappoint and show he isn't the guy.  That possibility is on the table and is very real.  But for so many people here they can't help but only post negatively about him whenever he comes up. It's a bit pathetic. 

16 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Those guys are (Quarterbacks) who don't get rattled, they don't get frazzled by the situation, they are able to play through any type of adversity. That is something that's a key trait to any Quarterback, you want that type of player on your team

Read More: How Does Jalen Hurts Compare to 2021 NFL Draft QB Prospects? | https://973espn.com/how-does-jalen-hurts-compare-to-2021-nfl-draft-qb-prospects/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral

In other words, he won't puke during a game.

Super Bowlzzzzzzzz1!1!1!1!1!

 

16 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

First off.  He’s not a kid.  22 years old is a grown man.  If he’s old enough to go to war then he’s no longer a kid.  Secondly, no one is irrationally "trash talking” him. We are just telling all of the fluffers to pump the brakes and have a realistic viewpoint.  Rather than anoint the guy after 3 full games for whatever reason.   Because it can’t be because of what he has shown in those 3 games.  

You called him a limited talent in your last post. We don’t know that. That’s not being cautious, that’s dunking on a guy for no reason. I hope he turns out great, but there’s a difference between saying we don’t know what he’s going to be and "he’s a limited talent”, "there are NFL throws he won’t be able to make”, etc. 

35 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Huh?

There are throws Hurts can't make, but those are the throws Watson, Brees and most QBs can't make, the laser across the body 40 yards downfield, etc.

But those throws are inconsequential for QB success, they are "wow" plays that occur maybe a dozen times a season.

Nor does he have the arm to throw into tight windows and get away with it, but that holds for the vast majority of NFL QBs, McNabb and Vick had plus plus arms - if they didn't, they would have had much shorter careers, because neither was good enough at anticipating their WRs to throw receivers open.

Hurts has "enough" arm strength to make the key throws, he's shown he can put the ball into tight spaces 20-30 yards downfield, make the back shoulder throw and put the ball where his WR can run under it. So the arm strength issue is going to be irrelevant to his success, as long as he understands his limitations.

What will determine his success is his ability to recognize defenses, get on the same page with his WRs and make crisp, accurate passes under pressure.

Consistency is far more important than arm strength, Eagle fans have seen too many lasers downfield negated by poor touch on screen passes or failure to see an open WR that kill that drive. A perfect throw on a screen that allows the RB to catch in stride can be as effective as a 40 yard throw across the field. A ball throw on time to the right spot, anticipating the WRs break is as effective as a laser thrown between three defenders.

Can he do that? Stay tuned. He has the IQ and work ethic to maximize his talent, but you don't know how far a young QB will progress in mastering the position until he's on the field for a couple seasons.

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

"Grasping at straws”.   Which is exactly what a lot of these posters are doing with Hurts.  LOL. 

Meh. I’m not defending Hurts or anything like that. I’m calling out Bacarty for a dumb made up defense of his position. 

16 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Made up defense? If scouts had him higher then the Eagles he would of went higher than the Eagles. He was a REACH to be a BACKUP QB. 

Yes, it’s completely made up to say "hundreds and hundreds of college scouts” had him as a third or fourth rounder. It’s absurd to present this as fact. You simply have no idea. 

Hurts going late in round 2 does strongly suggest that most of the key decision makers didn’t see him as a second round talent. But that’s all it does. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Funny except it holds so much more true for Wentz supporters who still can’t get over the fact that he failed us in every way possible