37 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think from the fan base mentality, the rush is you spent a premium pick on a player, you want to see them starting from day 1. Because that's usually what you get when you invest #37 overall. Compound that with another 2nd round pick being used on a backup last year, and another 2nd round pick being used on a bust the year before, fans are getting anxious. 

However, in this situation I don't see how you can start him over Seumalo unless you plan on trading Seumalo. It would be a weird thing to bench him and then next year go back to him as your starting C or LG after he's been the starter for the last 3 years.

That seems to be their strategy for their second round picks almost every year. Dickerson, Hurts, Sidney, and even Goedert not being a starter. If you want to do that with a 4th rounder, sure, but you need contributors with your top two picks. Sanders was able to contribute his rookie year and he was a key piece to them being somewhat successful. But there will be injuries on the offensive line this year, so I'm sure we'll at least see Dickerson get some playing time. I don't see Lane, Brooks, Kelce, and Seumalo all playing 17 games this year. 

Calling Tom Brady the GOAT doesnt sit well with me.  Doesnt sound right.  Maybe the greatest QB of all time but not the greatest football player of all time.

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

Calling Tom Brady the GOAT doesnt sit well with me.  Doesnt sound right.  Maybe the greatest QB of all time but not the greatest football player of all time.

For my money, the greatest football player of all time is Jerry Rice. It's the one position where there is no rational argument for any other player being the best ever. 

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

For those of us who have actually watched college football.  If Dickerson is healthy, he starts at LG.  Period.  Id be surprised if he is healthy to start the season and is a major injury risk.  Which is what makes that pick so questionable.  Healthy, he’s a great player at Guard or Center.  But the guy suffered an ACL injury, 6 months ago.  For a man that big and injury prone.  You don’t rush it.  

GOAT is tossed around wayyyyyyyyy too much.  The first one to be called that is Jerry Rice.   That’s who I’m going with.   

And it wasn't his first. Zero reason to rush him back onto the field and possibly endanger his long-term potential, especially in a rebuilding year.

14 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

For my money, the greatest football player of all time is Jerry Rice. It's the one position where there is no rational argument for any other player being the best ever. 

Yeah I think for football you have to go position by position.   

For WR you could make a case for Randy Moss.  I wouldn't put him over Rice but I can understand the argument. 

23 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

You can see why he had somewhat slow three cone and short shuttle given his speed.  Look at all the two step stops and cuts. In contrast watch tape of DJax, DeVonta Smith and you see a stick of one foot and move or stop. 

16 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

For those of us who have actually watched college football.  If Dickerson is healthy, he starts at LG.  Period.  Id be surprised if he is healthy to start the season and is a major injury risk.  Which is what makes that pick so questionable.  Healthy, he’s a great player at Guard or Center.  But the guy suffered an ACL injury, 6 months ago.  For a man that big and injury prone.  You don’t rush it.  

GOAT is tossed around wayyyyyyyyy too much.  The first one to be called that is Jerry Rice.   That’s who I’m going with.   

Yeah it's getting ridiculous.

 

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

Yeah I think for football you have to go position by position.   

For WR you could make a case for Randy Moss.  I wouldn't put him over Rice but I can understand the argument. 

Physically, Moss was more dominant. But we can't forget those years with the Raiders when he was a non-factor. Rice had over 1,200 yards for the Raiders in 2002 -- when he was 40. It's legitimately insane.

19 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

For my money, the greatest football player of all time is Jerry Rice. It's the one position where there is no rational argument for any other player being the best ever. 

Can he be called the greatest when he used stickem?

Just now, vikas83 said:

Physically, Moss was more dominant. But we can't forget those years with the Raiders when he was a non-factor. Rice had over 1,200 yards for the Raiders in 2002 -- when he was 40. It's legitimately insane.

Not to mention if you care about SBs then Rice wins that 3-0.

2 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Yeah it's getting ridiculous.

 

You could say GOAT is the GOAT of over used buzzwords 

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Can he be called the greatest when he used stickem?

I mean, the other guy in the discussion is Tom Brady, so...

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I mean, the other guy in the discussion is Tom Brady, so...

For some reason the cheating and scandals along with a weak division for over a decade get glossed over with him

30 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

There is going to be some attrition on the OL this season; Johnson, Brooks and Kelce are all over 30.  Hopefully any time they miss will be far less than the debacle on the OL last season.  The Eagles have the luxury of having Dickerson red-shirt at the start of the season -- I assume he'll be first guy off the bench to replace anyone on the interior OL that goes down.  He can step in for either Kelce or Brooks.  Herbig might be first guy in behind Seumalo.  Depending on who starts at LT I would think Mailata would be first in for Johnson, or Dillard for Mailata and Driscoll for Johnson, etc.

 

Yup, well see how it unfolds 

Multiple guys that can play multiple positions can only help.

Driscoll Dickerson and seumalo can all play all along the line except LT.

Stout seems to really like Driscoll and when he was drafted so e said he projected best as a center because if his IQ and his shorter arms, 

But then again apparently seumalos best position is also Center, though if you ask me I think the best I ever saw him play was at RT as rookie for a couple games when he filled for an injured/ suspended??? Lane.

Dickerson of course played a lot of center at Alabama but also played guard and a little tackle and Herbig spent a camp at mostly center one year but played surprisingly adequately at guard last year.

Stout has a lot of interior guys that he needs to figure out where they best fit but he's the best in the business so I have no reason to think he won't.

Hopefully Howie nor Lurie interject their opinions into that and let stout do stout.

 

13 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

You can see why he had somewhat slow three cone and short shuttle given his speed.  Look at all the two step stops and cuts. In contrast watch tape of DJax, DeVonta Smith and you see a stick of one foot and move or stop. 

Definitely not as smooth as devonte and also that turf whatever it is looks pretty slippery and awful.

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

For some reason the cheating and scandals along with a weak division for over a decade get glossed over with him

Because every time a team brings it up it pisses off Brady and he slaughters them. 

12 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I mean, the other guy in the discussion is Tom Brady, so...

Might as well bring Ray Lewis into it.  He's not a cheating scum like Brady; all he did was murder people

Your typical return from ACL with football players is nine months. The ligament should be just fine. It’s a matter of quickly he can regain strength and explosiveness. If he checks out, he plays. Waiting an extra month or two probably doesn’t change his injury risk. Rehab and recovery is pretty cookie cutter nowadays. 

42 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Calling Tom Brady the GOAT doesnt sit well with me.  Doesnt sound right.  Maybe the greatest QB of all time but not the greatest football player of all time.

I discount everything tom Brady does until he admits he's a twice caught cheater.

 

Jalen Hurts has a good work ethic. He has seemingly a good personality and seems to be a guy people gravitate towards.

Now if only he could get down:

Reading a football field, not taking off when his first is covered, being able to perform when teams make adjustments (see point one), completing more than half of his passes (roughly) and stop turning the ball over at an alarming rate, we might really have a player!

42 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

For my money, the greatest football player of all time is Jerry Rice. It's the one position where there is no rational argument for any other player being the best ever. 

Yup one could argue there were receivers with better athletic traits like Moss or Megatron but Rice did more than everyone else by a wide margin no matter if he was a super freak or not.

 

NFL analyst blasts Eagles’ Jalen Hurts for missing throws that high school QBs can make

https://www.nj.com/eagles/2021/06/nfl-analyst-says-eagles-jalen-hurts-missed-throws-last-season-that-a-high-school-senior-should-have-made.html

Does this guy post here?

8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Your typical return from ACL with football players is nine months. The ligament should be just fine. It’s a matter of quickly he can regain strength and explosiveness. If he checks out, he plays. Waiting an extra month or two probably doesn’t change his injury risk. Rehab and recovery is pretty cookie cutter nowadays. 

Does that also apply to bigger heavier guys like Dickerson or is the general recovery for an athlete, which Dickerson is, 9 months?

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Dak is bigger, stronger, more experienced, better talent around him 

Prescott's off field issues made him slip to the 4th. Hurts should of been picked for the 4th. 

I dont see the comp at all. 

Dak is an inch taller and about 15 pounds heavier so no a huge difference, having said I'm not sure he's stronger 

Hurts squat and other workout numbers are pretty impressive, I'm not sure where daks are at but hurts is pretty well put together and can thrown some iron around in the weight room and that seems to translate for him on the field as well.