A rookie QB with no off season work, no preseason, limited work with the starters, and thrown into an Anthony Lynn offense was pretty accurate with 66.6%

3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Right. They figured it out. Are you worried Howie won't get under the cap before the season starts? Because I don't believe any team has ever failed to do so, outside of the weird uncapped year and even then it was only Washington and Dallas who screwed up. 

No one has ever said they were worried about getting under the cap.  The problem is crippling your future cap cleaning up the current mess.  Eagles had 73 million in 2022 cap space on March 10th, now they have 12.8 million, and that will be 11 million after Landon Dickerson signs his rookie contract.  For that 60 million dollars allocated to 2022, all we will have to show for it is 9 rookies.  All the FA's we signed that have cap hits for next year, will be gone.

The Saints, who were in a worse situation than us, to fix it are already 15 million over the 2022 cap, and that number will be more when Ramczyk's extension is added, and they have a bunch of free agents.

The kicking the can down the road method is a bad one, it gets worse, and that is where the Eagles are.

 

5 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/3/16/22334000/nfl-free-agency-tom-brady-taysom-hill-voidable-years

 

Seems that the Eagles and Saints aren't alone, and if you dive deeper, most teams are probably using void years. Howie sucks at a lot of things, but the man can maneuver the cap.  

So the two players they talk about, Tom Brady, keeping his team together to win another title, and the Bucs cap situation is fine going forward.

Taysom Hill, the team that had to put themselves 15 million over next years cap to get compliant this year.

9 minutes ago, downundermike said:

So the two players they talk about, Tom Brady, keeping his team together to win another title, and the Bucs cap situation is fine going forward.

Taysom Hill, the team that had to put themselves 15 million over next years cap to get compliant this year.

He also talks about the Chiefs restructuring Mahomes and Kelce, and refers often to "accounting magic". It sounds silly, but he notes:

Sure, this is robbing Peter to pay Paul, and eventually Peter will need that money back. But by 2023, the salary cap might be $50 million higher than it is now, so the Chiefs don’t care. Neither does Kelce. He appeared on the Pat McAfee show on Tuesday and seemed unconcerned by all the minutiae of his deal’s restructuring.

"It just went right over my head, man,” Kelce said. "I don’t know anything about these voidable years. I just know you play, you get paid.”

13 minutes ago, downundermike said:

So the two players they talk about, Tom Brady, keeping his team together to win another title, and the Bucs cap situation is fine going forward.

Taysom Hill, the team that had to put themselves 15 million over next years cap to get compliant this year.

Also these are key cogs on the team. Even though I disagree with Hill overall, the Saints clearly view him as an important piece. They aren't tacking on voidable years to Joe freakin Flacco or anyone making more than $2M a year. 

19 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Sure, this is robbing Peter to pay Paul, and eventually Peter will need that money back. But by 2023, the salary cap might be $50 million higher than it is now,

You do realize all these future projections discussed are based on widely reported projections of the salary cap.  NFL has all but confirmed the 2022 cap will be 210 million, and the 2023 cap will be 225 million.  OTC and sportrac base all their data on these widely reported numbers.

When it is said that the Eagles have 10-12 million in cap space next year, do you thing the NFL is just going to magically add another 20 million to the cap ??  That 210 million might not be the exact number, but it will be within a couple million of that.

Toronto Eagle is in here telling us everything we already know about teams maneuvering for cap space. 

None of this is new. Howie kicked the can with old players and put together a roster with little quality young talent. It’s a terrible recipe. 

Of course he’s going to get us under the cap. He has to. 

50 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah.  But what quality FA CB are there?  

The quality I am seeking is that they aren't Avonte Maddox.  

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

You do realize all these future projections discussed are based on widely reported projections of the salary cap.  NFL has all but confirmed the 2022 cap will be 210 million, and the 2023 cap will be 225 million.  OTC and sportrac base all their data on these widely reported numbers.

When it is said that the Eagles have 10-12 million in cap space next year, do you thing the NFL is just going to magically add another 20 million to the cap ??  That 210 million might not be the exact number, but it will be within a couple million of that.

They already announced the ceiling is $208.2

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Toronto Eagle is in here telling us everything we already know about teams maneuvering for cap space. 

None of this is new. Howie kicked the can with old players and put together a roster with little quality young talent. It’s a terrible recipe. 

Of course he’s going to get us under the cap. He has to. 

That is the real issue with the team. The constant whinging about how we're going to pay the 52nd and 53rd players on the roster this year is what sparked my posts. Which is dumb.

Scumbag Cosby is walking on a technicality.

1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said:

Ah so the Saints who were in worse cap trouble than us have figured it out....hmmmm....seems like teams always find a way to get under the cap. Again, armchair cap experts will never be able to figure out the cap. It's an exercise in futility. 

yeah Saints have been doomed by capologists for years and years. 

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

If hanging on to Ertz means not signing a better FA CB, I think they should cut him.  

me too. but Im sure they could sign a free agent CB without doing that.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

yeah Saints have been doomed by capologists for years and years. 

The writer of that article points out the two teams who went to the Super Bowl last year are at the forefront of the voidable years thing. But when Howie does it, it's bad because Howie did it. 

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

That is the real issue with the team. The constant whinging about how we're going to pay the 52nd and 53rd players on the roster this year is what sparked my posts. Which is dumb.

They’re both issues. Just because Howie has been really bad at adding young talent doesn’t mean we should gloss over his mismanagement of the cap too. 

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

The writer of that article points out the two teams who went to the Super Bowl last year are at the forefront of the voidable years thing. But when Howie does it, it's bad because Howie did it. 

yeah unfortunately the capologists are all howie haters so we wont get anyone informed on cap stuff giving accurate information without a negative slant on it.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article252439933.html

Glad I moved from North Raleigh.  

4 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

The writer of that article points out the two teams who went to the Super Bowl last year are at the forefront of the voidable years thing. But when Howie does it, it's bad because Howie did it. 

How many bad contracts do those teams have? How many had contracts do we have? How many good young players do those teams have to supplement the cap space eaten up by the voidable years?

Its not bad because Howie did it. It’s bad because we have a bad roster combined with a bad cap. 

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah unfortunately the capologists are all howie haters so we wont get anyone informed on cap stuff giving accurate information without a negative slant on it.

Feel free to share a positive slant to our roster and cap…

7 hours ago, greend said:

They are so desperate to be right on Hurts that if there was a video of him sitting on the couch throwing away a soft drink bottle across the room into the garbage, it would be set to music  and proclaimed how hard he works even when he's at home.

This hype vid popped up on my bleacher report app about 30 minutes after reading this.  😂

 

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah unfortunately the capologists are all howie haters so we wont get anyone informed on cap stuff giving accurate information without a negative slant on it.

The information is the information.  Your opinion of it does not change the facts.  Here are the facts.

March 10th

2022 cap space - 73 million

2023 cap space - 136 million

Today, June 30th

2022 cap space - 12.8 million

2023 cap space - 80 million

 

That is a difference of 117 million dollars.  The majority of that is from re structures and voidable years.  For that 117 million dollars, all we gained for the 2022 season was 9 rookies.  If you do not see that as gross cap mismanagement, I really do not know what to say.

 

These numbers are the hard data facts, and I am going to keep talking about them.

the fact is that the cap is getting back in shape. but you guys want to really try to focus on this year and pretend like its really bad when common sense says this year was coming and will be necessary to get back in shape.

14 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

Scumbag Cosby is walking on a technicality.

I don't know if it's a technicality.  The big issue appears to be that the prior DA agreed not to prosecute Cosby if he testified at the civil trial which resulted in a verdict for the accuser.  He was then prosecuted and that testimony was used against him.  The new DA should have probably not used the prior testimony.  I mean it's a technicality in the sense that we have a right against self incrimination.  He could have certainly certainly asserted a 5th amendment claim in response to questions in the civil case.  

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

the fact is that the cap is getting back in shape. but you guys want to really try to focus on this year and pretend like its really bad when common sense says this year was coming and will be necessary to get back in shape.

Sometimes I just like complaining.