2 hours ago, Penn7980 said:

Jones and Douglas could be traded because they had potential, as you put it, and their rookie contracts were easy to take.  Good items always go faster and easier than the so-so ones, simple market dynamics.

Not sure what the coaches want to do with the CBs.  Possibly they just run with what they have now, and shoot for some of talents in the next draft.  If some decent ones become available at cut-down time, they might get additional help that way.   

They weren't traded though.  They were straight up cut.

 

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1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Predictably bad.  I’ve been complaining about it for a few years.  But we have 45 wide receivers.  

And not much to show in that area either

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Predictably bad.  I’ve been complaining about it for a few years.  But we have 45 wide receivers.  

Oh me too, one of the worst back 7's in the league yet we continue to turn a blind eye. 

 

7 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I mean the stat is yards per route run.  Look at the fact that no Eagles receivers even made it on the chart when you look at catchable balls.  So the stat doesn't really indicate how open players are.  It does tell us the offense stunk.  Certainly part of the problem were the receivers.  

 

Of course part of the  problem was the receivers but the entire offense including play calling and QB (+ audibles) was so funked up that i'm not ready to declare the WRs as total garbage either. 

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2 hours ago, greendestiny27 said:

That's embarrassing 

Keep in mind the eagles won the super bowl with a 7th rounder and a traded for 3rd rounder and a vet who was almost cut during camp at nickel 

The eagles in 2017 had the least amount of money allocated towards corner and one of the highest allocate towards safety.

Since 2017 I'm not quite sure what the plan has been as they invested heavily in slay but then left CB2 as an after thought while signing or drafting a bunch of slot corners 

Just seems since 2017 there hasn't been a clear plan at corner and seems this year is looking the same 

Most zone coverage schemes eventually become man schemes too. It's not as simple as saying "can beat man or zone". 

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

Most zone coverage schemes eventually become man schemes too. It's not as simple as saying "can beat man or zone". 

No, but scheme can put zone players in conflict open up players much easier than in man. 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Predictably bad.  I’ve been complaining about it for a few years.  But we have 45 wide receivers.  

And zero closers.  It's s frustrating time.

I understand the importance of locking in young players and I know the Eagles really lack a young talented core but I think spending "big money" on a tight end is a luxury the Eagles can't afford right now.  Will depend on the numbers if this finally happens.  I honestly don't want to see him get more than $10 million/year but I think we're going to see him in the $13 million/year range.

phillyeaglesnews Eagles are working on a contract extension with TE Dallas Goedert that is expected to include "big money” per John McMullen.

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

No, but scheme can put zone players in conflict open up players much easier than in man. 

Sure, but if you know what defense coverage is coming, it's easy to dial up winners.

*Unless you're the 2020 Eagles*

Wheeler will be asking for a trade in the offseason, if not before.

Just now, bpac55 said:

I understand the importance of locking in young players and I know the Eagles really lack a young talented core but I think spending "big money" on a tight end is a luxury the Eagles can't afford right now.  Will depend on the numbers if this finally happens.  I honestly don't want to see him get more than $10 million/year but I think we're going to see him in the $13 million/year range.

phillyeaglesnews Eagles are working on a contract extension with TE Dallas Goedert that is expected to include "big money” per John McMullen.

If he is going to be our top TE, and you have to assume Ertz is as good as gone, then it might be smart to do it now before a potential breakout season.

More likely, we do it now and he continues to be injury prone and we are stuck with a bad big money deal for a player whos career never takes off.

 

Just now, RLC said:

Sure, but if you know what defense coverage is coming, it's easy to dial up winners.

*Unless you're the 2020 Eagles*

For sure. Coaching failures and player failures abound. 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

If he is going to be our top TE, and you have to assume Ertz is as good as gone, then it might be smart to do it now before a potential breakout season.

More likely, we do it now and he continues to be injury prone and we are stuck with a bad big money deal for a player whos career never takes off.

 

Agree, you have to assume the first scenario but given the Eagles luck, the Eagles injury history scenario 2 is what is more likely to happen.

I had a few long posts a few months ago about the upcoming FA tight end class and how stacked it is.  

I really don't know what Goedert is.  I think the fanbase has overrated him but he's still a nice player.  I also think if he walks, there's going to be young talent to sign on the free agent market.  IMO, he hasn't shown enough yet.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Agree, you have to assume the first scenario but given the Eagles luck, the Eagles injury history scenario 2 is what is more likely to happen.

I had a few long posts a few months ago about the upcoming FA tight end class and how stacked it is.  

I really don't know what Goedert is.  I think the fanbase has overrated him but he's still a nice player.  I also think if he walks, there's going to be young talent to sign on the free agent market.  IMO, he hasn't shown enough yet.

You know by definition you’re overpaying in FA.  Much more likely to get a team-friendly deal with a guy who’s already on the team.

7 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

You know by definition you’re overpaying in FA.  Much more likely to get a team-friendly deal with a guy who’s already on the team.

If he is willing to sign now, it likely signals hes not really caring about trying to get a top 3, top 5 or whatever deal. If he was concerned about mopping up all he could, then he would bet on himself to have a breakout season and negotiate after. It may be big, but it should be pretty reasonable. If he is what a lot of people in here think he is, then its probably going to be a bargain.

 

 

25 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

If he is going to be our top TE, and you have to assume Ertz is as good as gone, then it might be smart to do it now before a potential breakout season.

More likely, we do it now and he continues to be injury prone and we are stuck with a bad big money deal for a player whos career never takes off.

 

I’m not buying the Goedert breakout season. First, he’s been dinged up a good amount. Second, Hurts didn’t really throw to the middle of the field a ton which will limit his production. Sirianni also doesn’t seem to utilize the TE like Doug did. I’m thinking 650-700ish yards if he plays all year. 

25 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Agree, you have to assume the first scenario but given the Eagles luck, the Eagles injury history scenario 2 is what is more likely to happen.

I had a few long posts a few months ago about the upcoming FA tight end class and how stacked it is.  

I really don't know what Goedert is.  I think the fanbase has overrated him but he's still a nice player.  I also think if he walks, there's going to be young talent to sign on the free agent market.  IMO, he hasn't shown enough yet.

A stacked FA market potentially hinders him too. I don’t think there are a ton of teams wanting to throw top dollar at the TE. If there are a lot of options and a lack of teams willing to pay, it becomes a buyers market. 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

A stacked FA market potentially hinders him too. I don’t think there are a ton of teams wanting to throw top dollar at the TE. If there are a lot of options and a lack of teams willing to pay, it becomes a buyers market. 

Which is why I think it's silly for the Eagles to pay him a deal now with potential huge numbers.  They could potentially have their pick of the litter in the FA market.

It's a tricky situation for sure.  Goedert is one of the Eagles lone young, talented players but at the same time, he isn't a top tight end.  I'd argue he's hardly a top 15 tight end in the NFL.  Hell, he might not even be in the top 5 of the tight ends who are going to be FA this year.

6 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Does Buffalo have any quality corners that aren’t starters?   Asking since a deal with them is likely.  

No but they have Maserati Mitch 

47 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’m not buying the Goedert breakout season. First, he’s been dinged up a good amount. Second, Hurts didn’t really throw to the middle of the field a ton which will limit his production. Sirianni also doesn’t seem to utilize the TE like Doug did. I’m thinking 650-700ish yards if he plays all year. 

That’s what worries me the most about Hurts.  About half of the potential players catching the ball on this team would benefit from intermediate throws over the middle.  

2 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Does Buffalo have any quality corners that aren’t starters?   Asking since a deal with them is likely.  

From what I was reading they want an upgrade at #2 corner themselves. Maybe a LB or S ?

9 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

From what I was reading they want an upgrade at #2 corner themselves. Maybe a LB or S ?

I don’t want any player compensation for Ertz.  I want draft compensation.  And I prefer 2023 draft compensation. How about a conditional pick like fourth that can become a third if certain conditions are met but if not becomes a fifth and a 2024 sixth.  That sort of approach. The argument being that if we kept him, Ertz would be a 2023 fourth comp pick.