1 minute ago, greend said:

Sanders/Hurts will account for 85% of the run game (unless one of them get hurt)

You know was well as I do, both of them will be hurt.  Just a question of how much time on the shelf.

3 minutes ago, greend said:

Sanders/Hurts will account for 85% of the run game (unless one of them get hurt)

Likely right.  Hurts better learn to get down or he won't last.

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It will be interesting to see who wins in camp between Johnson and Howard; I like Howard as a straight-ahead RB if he has any burst left.  Gainwell will hopefully be good enough to supplant Scott at some point.

For many of us, I think the "want" for Howard to be that guy is far greater than what he has left in the tank.  I don't see him making it, but only time will tell.

7 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

Good thoughts.  I think they will commit to the run, because they have to (see your other comments).  Which backs are leading that way?  I say Sanders. Johnson, and Gainwell.  

Why in the world do you have Johnson in that list?  His best asset is pass pro but his yards per carry is what got him cut.  3.5 YPC.  No burst at all.  In contrast Boston Scott had a 4.7 YPC with a bad line last year.  He also is a better receiver out of the backfield.  Zero drops.  Is it because Johnson weighs 206 at 5’ 11” to Scott’s 203 at 5’ 6”?  (It is humorous that Johnson is considered by some to be a "big back”).   At this point in his career, Johnson is overpriced on a rookie contract for the production offered, which is why he was waived by Detroit.  I would have more hope of Howard regaining his form than Johnson sticking on the roster. (Howard, at least, is a "big back”).  My guess is Sanders with Scott and Gainwell (who after a year off must regain his form) and ? at the fourth RB position, if there is a fourth RB position.    There are five players shooting for that fourth spot and none of them much of a sure thing.  Big backs, Holyfield at 215, not really (and never active last year) and Howard at 222 (looked washed in Miami).  Munchkin backs in Huntley 193 (not much shown when given a shot last year, worse returner than Scott and couldn’t find a hole in te run game with no pass pro ability) and Killins 177 (fast but negative yards running and questionable hands with questionable RS skills).   And Johnson, faster than Holyfield but nowhere near as strong, his one step seemed lost to that knee injury and it wasn’t much of a step to begin with.   Overdrafted.  Then there is the waiver wire.  The fourth back may come from there, if at all.  Question may be more of what RB makes the PS.

 

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

Couldn't hold that last second eh? What a loser

12 hours ago, austinfan said:

Brooks is an animal, he was potentially ready for the playoffs last year, he'll be 100% this fall. At 100% he's the best guard in the NFL.

Lane is the question mark, but if the ankle is 100% he may be the best RT in the NFL.

The battle at LT should leave us with one solid starter.

And with Dillard/Mailata, Dickerson, Driscoll, Herbig on the bench, well, find me a team with better depth.

When Seumalo and Kelce are your "weak spots" you're in good shape.

And we have the secret sauce in Stoutland.

30 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Why in the world do you have Johnson in that list?  His best asset is pass pro but his yards per carry is what got him cut.  3.5 YPC.  No burst at all.  In contrast Boston Scott had a 4.7 YPC with a bad line last year.  He also is a better receiver out of the backfield.  Zero drops.  Is it because Johnson weighs 206 at 5’ 11” to Scott’s 203 at 5’ 6”?  (It is humorous that Johnson is considered by some to be a "big back”).   At this point in his career, Johnson is overpriced on a rookie contract for the production offered, which is why he was waived by Detroit.  I would have more hope of Howard regaining his form than Johnson sticking on the roster. (Howard, at least, is a "big back”).  My guess is Sanders with Scott and Gainwell (who after a year off must regain his form) and ? at the fourth RB position, if there is a fourth RB position.    There are five players shooting for that fourth spot and none of them much of a sure thing.  Big backs, Holyfield at 215, not really (and never active last year) and Howard at 222 (looked washed in Miami).  Munchkin backs in Huntley 193 (not much shown when given a shot last year, worse returner than Scott and couldn’t find a hole in te run game with no pass pro ability) and Killins 177 (fast but negative yards running and questionable hands with questionable RS skills).   And Johnson, faster than Holyfield but nowhere near as strong, his one step seemed lost to that knee injury and it wasn’t much of a step to begin with.   Overdrafted.  Then there is the waiver wire.  The fourth back may come from there, if at all.  Question may be more of what RB makes the PS.

Yeah I don't get the kerryon. Johnson hype, he's useless as a runner at this point yet I keep hearing how great he is in pass pro, do people really think he's so great at pass pro that he's going to get snaps just so he can pass pro?

The dude last year had 19 catches for 187 yards and a TD, with a long if 20 yards.

Not awful and also not anything I'd use to claim he's a " great" receiving back 

I'll be surprised if he actually makes the roster.

At best he's be the 4th back on the roster where he doesn't play coverage teams or return kicks he isn't a goal line back the one thing he's got is he's a decent pass blocker.

Who in their fright mind puts in their 4th RB to pass block???

Hobestly I like Huntley as the 4th back, while he didn't show much last year he also barely played.

He was an ectric KR in college and a good receiver as well as he had two seasons of 40 plus catches and another with 39 so it's not like he doesn't have experience in the pass game 

A teams 4th back shouldn't get many carries so needs to contribute in other ways, mainly on special teams in the return game and or on cover teams and be able to do something on offense in a pinch. 

I'm not sure Huntley is that guy but I think he fits that role better than any of the other RBs on the eagle roster.

 

54 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Why in the world do you have Johnson in that list?  His best asset is pass pro but his yards per carry is what got him cut.  3.5 YPC.  No burst at all.  In contrast Boston Scott had a 4.7 YPC with a bad line last year.  He also is a better receiver out of the backfield.  Zero drops.  Is it because Johnson weighs 206 at 5’ 11” to Scott’s 203 at 5’ 6”?  (It is humorous that Johnson is considered by some to be a "big back”).   At this point in his career, Johnson is overpriced on a rookie contract for the production offered, which is why he was waived by Detroit.  I would have more hope of Howard regaining his form than Johnson sticking on the roster. (Howard, at least, is a "big back”).  My guess is Sanders with Scott and Gainwell (who after a year off must regain his form) and ? at the fourth RB position, if there is a fourth RB position.    There are five players shooting for that fourth spot and none of them much of a sure thing.  Big backs, Holyfield at 215, not really (and never active last year) and Howard at 222 (looked washed in Miami).  Munchkin backs in Huntley 193 (not much shown when given a shot last year, worse returner than Scott and couldn’t find a hole in te run game with no pass pro ability) and Killins 177 (fast but negative yards running and questionable hands with questionable RS skills).   And Johnson, faster than Holyfield but nowhere near as strong, his one step seemed lost to that knee injury and it wasn’t much of a step to begin with.   Overdrafted.  Then there is the waiver wire.  The fourth back may come from there, if at all.  Question may be more of what RB makes the PS.

Our feelings on this are not far apart.  I think Howard is washed up.  If you want to think a player will surpass their previous injury history and succeed...I think that guy is Johnson, if we are solely using what's on the roster today.  The bulk of the work with go to Sanders and Hurts with Johnson, Gainwell, and Scott (likely).  I don't think we need the "big back", but if Siri wants that, then that guy is probably not on the roster right now.  In reality, the only real locks are probably Sanders and Gainwell.  

31 minutes ago, greend said:

Couldn't hold that last second eh? What a loser

These workout vid tweets keep getting weirder and weirder. 

55 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Why in the world do you have Johnson in that list?  His best asset is pass pro but his yards per carry is what got him cut.  3.5 YPC.  No burst at all.  In contrast Boston Scott had a 4.7 YPC with a bad line last year.  He also is a better receiver out of the backfield.  Zero drops.  Is it because Johnson weighs 206 at 5’ 11” to Scott’s 203 at 5’ 6”?  (It is humorous that Johnson is considered by some to be a "big back”).   At this point in his career, Johnson is overpriced on a rookie contract for the production offered, which is why he was waived by Detroit.  I would have more hope of Howard regaining his form than Johnson sticking on the roster. (Howard, at least, is a "big back”).  My guess is Sanders with Scott and Gainwell (who after a year off must regain his form) and ? at the fourth RB position, if there is a fourth RB position.    There are five players shooting for that fourth spot and none of them much of a sure thing.  Big backs, Holyfield at 215, not really (and never active last year) and Howard at 222 (looked washed in Miami).  Munchkin backs in Huntley 193 (not much shown when given a shot last year, worse returner than Scott and couldn’t find a hole in te run game with no pass pro ability) and Killins 177 (fast but negative yards running and questionable hands with questionable RS skills).   And Johnson, faster than Holyfield but nowhere near as strong, his one step seemed lost to that knee injury and it wasn’t much of a step to begin with.   Overdrafted.  Then there is the waiver wire.  The fourth back may come from there, if at all.  Question may be more of what RB makes the PS.

With Sanders very likely to miss time, I think you have to have 4 RBs on the roster unfortunately. I also think you're right that the 4th will likely come from the waiver wire. I am not a big Sanders fan, at least not as a lead back. He's just not durable or consistent enough for my liking. 

1 hour ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

Likely right.  Hurts better learn to get down or he won't last.

I agree but that could apply to majority of young QBs in the league. The NFL isn’t the place to be Johnny big balls when it comes to taking hits. Slide feet first and non of the this head first carry on. 

22 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

These workout vid tweets keep getting weirder and weirder. 

I might do one myself.......................................................shirtless 

 

33 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

That chart is a moving diagram, though.  KC and HOU are in the same place -- but do the Texans have a $40M QB or nothing at the position?  The answer might be both.

BAL will move from one end of that chart to the other if they give Lamar Jackson a contract higher than Dak (which is what he should be asking)

 

1 hour ago, greend said:

I might do one myself.......................................................shirtless 

Make sure you add some cool music too.

10 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

That chart is a moving diagram, though.  KC and HOU are in the same place -- but do the Texans have a $40M QB or nothing at the position?  The answer might be both.

BAL will move from one end of that chart to the other if they give Lamar Jackson a contract higher than Dak (which is what he should be asking)

 

Yea, it's a pretty useless chart. Just thought it was kind of interesting. Top right corner are generally your playoff contenders. Bottom right are bad teams with expensive QB's. Everything on the left is basically QB's on rookie deals, but the ones higher on the left are making the playoff push (Bills, Cardinals, Browns etc)

15 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Within 3 years he will establish himself as the best WR in the league. I've never been higher on a player the Eagles have drafted. 

Top 5 maybe, but he has physical limitations that will stop him from being the best.

13 hours ago, bpac55 said:

ugh, no more halfway point with 17 games.  

Technically, there is now a true half way point, 17 games, 18 weeks with the bye.  Before it was 16 games, 17 weeks with the bye.

13 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Make sure you add some cool music too.

I'm too old for "cool music" someone will have to edit that in for me. Unless you consider cool music A/C/D/C

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Technically, there is now a true half way point, 17 games, 18 weeks with the bye.  Before it was 16 games, 17 weeks with the bye.

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Technically, there is now a true half way point, 17 games, 18 weeks with the bye.  Before it was 16 games, 17 weeks with the bye.

What game is the halfway point of 17? game 8 1/2? 

4 minutes ago, greend said:

What game is the halfway point of 17? game 8 1/2? 

Season has 18 weeks, week 9 is the half way point of the season.

1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said:

With Sanders very likely to miss time, I think you have to have 4 RBs on the roster unfortunately. I also think you're right that the 4th will likely come from the waiver wire. I am not a big Sanders fan, at least not as a lead back. He's just not durable or consistent enough for my liking. 

I understand the durability concerns to some extent although he hasn't had a significant injury problem.  He's missed 3 games in 2 seasons due to injury.  He has been consistent running the ball.  I think given the offensive line play he was pretty good.  He did seem to regress as a receiver but I think that's hard to judge given the play of the team.  His targets in the passing game were down as was his catch percentage.  I do think a fair amount was due to the accuracy problems at the QB and the coaching.  He did seem to have some issues that I hope improve.  He's without question the best RB on the team and should be the lead back.  I would also take him over every RB not named Saquon in the NFC East.  

10 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Season has 18 weeks, week 9 is the half way point of the season.

But no halfway point of the games. I'm sure that's what he meant.