3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

No I knew what it was.  Kinda misdirected TBH.  That’s why I corrected you.  Do better.  

Not bloody likely

3 hours ago, downundermike said:

 

How do you know these guys, Michael?  Only Eagles players that were playing when you were still playing are Graham, Kerrigan, Cox, McLeod, Slay, Kelce, Brooks, Johnson and Flacco.  Only one that played in the NFCW was McLeod.  Now Kerrigan and Graham played college ball in the Big 10 but were no contemporaries of Robinson.  So these guys you "know”, I have to ask how do you know them?  And they confided in you as a reporter questioning a guy who they are dependent on for a job?  And so it would be released on WIP, scooping local reporters who have built relationships with players.  Yeah, no, I just don’t buy it.  Not credible.

Just to pile on, it’s natural for players to question a new coach, especially one who wasn’t a known commodity, who had little buzz in the media, has an absurd amount of energy and enthusiasm. Sirianni is just different. 

2 hours ago, 315Eagles said:

Wasnt he from Penn St?  Might be close with Miles Sanders who could saying something. 

I think its natural for some players to be skeptical of a new, unproven HC.  Sirianni is going to have to prove himself and gain trust among those that doubt him.

I was at UH at the same time as Elizabeth Warren, and we both frequented the law library there, hence I must know Liz. (Robinson left a decade before Miles arrived, so my chance of knowing Liz was greater than Robinson’s of knowing Miles).  

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Just to pile on, it’s natural for players to question a new coach, especially one who wasn’t a known commodity, who had little buzz in the media, has an absurd amount of energy and enthusiasm. Sirianni is just different. 

Hopefully it's also natural for them to be professionals, meaning they're open to different types of coaching and input -- especially when that 'different' person determines their career trajectory.  Those that aren't have a way of not being around very long.  

12 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

One of my best friends is a 62 year old Jewish guy.  We have almost nothing in coming other than that we are loyal friends and have been for over 20 years.  We grew up in different areas and have never worked or went to college together.  I know some of his friends of varying age groups.  It’s easy if you try.   

Huh?  So these guys who come from different areas of the country, somehow befriended Robinson to the point they confide in him?  And what kind of friend would go on the radio and repeat something you said in confidence?  Nonsense.  You buy it, I don’t because it reeks of BS.  Glad to be in company of Lane Johnson and even Kempski on this one.

19 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Hopefully it's also natural for them to be professionals, meaning they're open to different types of coaching and input -- especially when that 'different' person determines their career trajectory.  Those that aren't have a way of not being around very long.  

I’m sure it’s a relatively small number of players, and how Sirianni fares on Sundays will determine how those few players respond to him. 

He’s not a total D, like Chip, so I’m sure he’ll be given a fair shot by all the players. It takes getting used to be around guys like Sirianni. I can see why some people would be like "who the hell is this guy?” As long as he’s competent, genuine and fair, he’ll be OK. 

19 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Hopefully it's also natural for them to be professionals, meaning they're open to different types of coaching and input -- especially when that 'different' person determines their career trajectory.  Those that aren't have a way of not being around very long.  

That’s the thing. I don’t find it in any way far fetched that what Robinson said is highly likely true. At the same time, I think what he said is also much ado about nothing. What matters is they still recognize that he is the boss right now, as it’s incumbent on them to act professional as you said. 

3 hours ago, MillerTime said:

 

Where was this energy when the Josina Anderson reports were coming every which way years ago

2 hours ago, downundermike said:

 

F NO

Nothing against Hurts though. I still hope he turns into an All-Pro

We had way too many problems to spend a 2nd rounder on QB

The blueprint, IMO. 

16 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Where was this energy when the Josina Anderson reports were coming every which way years ago

Because everyone and their mother knew it was Alston, and lane probably tried to handle it privately 

4 hours ago, downundermike said:

 

That guy is full of it. Starting a bs rumor to fill tv time while they wait for TC

31 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Where was this energy when the Josina Anderson reports were coming every which way years ago

Well those reports were true. This one is bull so Lane is coming after him.

 

Cox joining the action

39 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

The blueprint, IMO. 

Sounds like the kind of stuff the film analysis by Siriani was pointed at.   Wonder if anyone has done an analysis like that on Doug and the grab box group offense from last year.  I figure the offensive calls will be better this year, if for no other reason than Marty is gone.

11 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I read what he did with Pascal and wonder if he can turn things around for a player like JJAW.  

8 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

Cox joining the action

 

 

That's all good and well but doesn't really mean anything. Cox and Lane don't speak for every player on the team.  They have no way of knowing if anyone has expressed opinions to a media member.

 

And in the end none of it matters.  Either Sirianni is able to earn players respect through his coaching this season or he doesn't and those players either need to then be removed from the team or potentially Sirianni is a disaster as a HC and needs to be moved on from sooner rather than later.  Won't know how any of it goes down though until the season actually plays out.  

15 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yes.  Because there is no chance that a few players talked and Robinson heard about it or spoke to one of them.  Because Lane Johnson said so.  Lane controls and is in tune with the opinions of the entire roster.  

And Cox.  So two leaders of the offense and defense call BS.  You believe what you want to believe and I chose to think this was BS, like Les, like Kempski and most every other Eagle reporter plus Lane and Fletch.  

say the names

Still not sure what is so far fetched about a few guys questioning if Siri will be a good leader. It’s not like it was being said half the roster hates the guy and are planning a pitchfork and torch style revolt into Lurie’s office demanding his removal. 
 

I also don’t see what’s so far fetched about Robinson knowing people on the team. He’s not that far removed from the game that he can’t relate to players. It’s not like being in the media, he has no chance to build a rapport with players. Whether it’s talking to players from around the league at various sites during the week of the Super Bowl, or talking to future draftees at the Sr Bowl, or East-West Shrine game, or various pro days. Wherever NFLN sends him. How he can potentially come to know various players around the league despite not playing anymore is not really that difficult to figure out. 

13 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Still not sure what is so far fetched about a few guys questioning if Siri will be a good leader. It’s not like it was being said half the roster hates the guy and are planning a pitchfork and torch style revolt into Lurie’s office demanding his removal. 
 

I also don’t see what’s so far fetched about Robinson knowing people on the team. He’s not that far removed from the game that he can’t relate to players. It’s not like being in the media, he has no chance to build a rapport with players. Whether it’s talking to players from around the league at various sites during the week of the Super Bowl, or talking to future draftees at the Sr Bowl, or East-West Shrine game, or various pro days. Wherever NFLN sends him. How he can potentially come to know various players around the league despite not playing anymore is not really that difficult to figure out. 

The point is Michael Robinson has very little credibility — and even less facts when he chose to go public with a story that is intended to do nothing but stir the pot.  It’s like clickbait, but in verbal form.  Nothing there but a headline with no sourcing, no facts, and no substance.

If it was Charles Robinson reporting it, then perhaps I’d believe there is something to it.  Michael Robinson is a numbskull who shouldn’t be taken seriously.  He’s like Josina Anderson, but even less integrity.

28 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Still not sure what is so far fetched about a few guys questioning if Siri will be a good leader. It’s not like it was being said half the roster hates the guy and are planning a pitchfork and torch style revolt into Lurie’s office demanding his removal. 
 

I also don’t see what’s so far fetched about Robinson knowing people on the team. He’s not that far removed from the game that he can’t relate to players. It’s not like being in the media, he has no chance to build a rapport with players. Whether it’s talking to players from around the league at various sites during the week of the Super Bowl, or talking to future draftees at the Sr Bowl, or East-West Shrine game, or various pro days. Wherever NFLN sends him. How he can potentially come to know various players around the league despite not playing anymore is not really that difficult to figure out. 

Some are acting like Robinson said some players are spitting on Sirianni's grave. 

But, Robinson himself could be spinning things he heard into a bigger deal than they actually are. I wouldn't be surprised if whoever the player or players were gave him a generic answer like "He'll have to prove it when the games start" and that spins into "players question if he can be a leader!"

This

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Some are acting like Robinson said some players are spitting on Sirianni's grave. 

But, Robinson himself could be spinning things he heard into a bigger deal than they actually are. I wouldn't be surprised if whoever the player or players were gave him a generic answer like "He'll have to prove it when the games start" and that spins into "players question if he can be a leader!"

I'm not saying Robinson doesn't have a twist on it, I really don't know. My point from the beginning goes back to what I said earlier, that in a room of 90 players, it's extremely unlikely that all 90 share the exact same opinion on him. Robinson hypothetically could have completely lied about it, but just playing the odds, he's still likely going to be accidentally right.