3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

In order:

• His NFL experience came in 2 consecutive years with Chip Kelly as the HC (1 in Philly, 2015; 1 in SF, 2016).

Please expand on the "leader of men" comment.  Do you have evidence of that?   We know that Chip Kelly never was.

Day's resume is a little thin, but that'll be true for any coach under 50. His resume is better than say Sean McVay's when he was hired. Your concern is valid though!

As for the leader of men, you can just hear about what his players say about him. Players respect him. Media respects him. Obviously, we can never really know if we're not behind closed doors. 

8 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

You do realize you and I could coach Ohio State to a National Championship right 

After Saban retires.

22 minutes ago, John_C said:

Chris as usual is spot on.  For those doubting him, you may be unfair to Chris Long.  Very intelligent and perceptive guy, not just a standard "ex player" with a grudge against someone.  Seems to have remained vested in the Eagles continued success, even though he did not come back to the team in his desired role after the SB.

He played in 2018 but did not come back after that season.  I think that was because of Josh Sweat.  I don't think he has any grudges and he's definitely aware of the FO dynamics.  

Tough to project dract picks until we know who the  coaches  are and what schemes they bring

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

If I'm a really good coach who has clout, I'm in the playoffs and not going anywhere.

I guess we're screwed then

The Jets and Falcons have interviewed Joe Brady; haven’t heard the Eagles have asked permission yet.  He’d be available to interview right away 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

 

"Now you've got Jalen Hurts, who you might've alienated. You've got Carson, who might feel alienated. And you've got a training camp an an OTA with a new coach, whoever that is, and a job that a lot of guys might not want to take. You're $60 mil over the cap, your roster's aging. And the guy who won a Super Bowl and there's a statue of him outside the stadium? He left because, in part, he wanted more control. 

"If I'm a coach, a really good coach who's got clout, do I want to go into a situation where a guy just left, who won them a Super Bowl in franchise history, [because he] wanted more control?"

There is truth to that, and then you can also look at it this way:

You have potentially 2 QB's who can be good- great starters here. Wentz who was a MVP candidate, Pro bowl type Prototypical QB, who was given a raw deal with talent around him and poor Coaching - and Hurts who has raw talent- How much do I believe in myself as a coach? Likely anywhere else I am starting over trying to find a QB. We have potentially 2.  

Over the cap- team knows it is in bad shape and it is aging etc, meaning I probably get 3 years minimum to rebuild because the FO knows it's in bad shape, before I have to show a winner.

The rest of the division is WEAK as hell. There isn't a good team amongst them, again- how much confidence do I have in myself? At least there is no KC type in the division. 

The NFC East- no more visible division in the NFL- If I can make it there, I can write my own ticket- anywhere - AR as an example. 

I respect Doug and think he was loved by many players, heck probably his best attribute was communicating and relating to the players in that locker room. But I'm going to stand by my opinion on Doug being his own enemy and being too loyal. And maybe it had to do with Doug being a HC for the first time but people getting mad that we "forced" Doug to fire Groh and Walch last year, remind yourselves the horrible offense we had with a healthy Carson Wentz in 2019. Our offense last year hardly had any signs of life and zero creativity. Groh was given a promotion, a full offseason OTA & Camp and 16 games to try and help figure it out and it didn't look like he was suited to be OC. Doug was going to turn around and bring both him and Walsh back, now I know first years cannot prove everything but our 2019 season looked very rough offensively.........even still with a good OL, serviceable QB, Miles Sanders, Dallas Goedert and Zach Ertz. There was enough talent to see more than 7 points every first half. Doug wanted to give those guys another shot - but it got his a** in trouble and hot water because almost everyone on this board, all media and Philly fans wanted Groh gone way before the end of the year. And rightfully so - because Groh is back to what he does best, WR's coach. He never should have been promoted to OC. 

Then this year changes are made again but nothing gets better. Press Taylor got a promotion just like Groh, which both look to be bad decisions on Doug because neither are or were qualified to be OC. Anyhow the offense again looked pathetic even against bad defenses. We had zero complex looking play designs, nothing absolutely fooled the other team and we just fell flat on our face. If it weren't for an early Travis Fulgham, a couple nice runs by Sanders and a late season Jalen Hurts, we wouldn't have had crap to enjoy watching as Eagles fans.

Did Lurie potentially go about it wrong this year, yea I can agree there. But let's face it, outside of 2017 this offense was just mediocre. And we can cite injuries, not any good young players etc. which do have an effect BUT other teams deal with injuries as well and they still find a way to scheme their game plans based on their players. Doug was not scheming this team in the right direction IMO - the league is changing and evolving each and every year, as a HC/OC/DC if you don't adapt and ride with new ideas then you will be left in the dust. 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Day's resume is a little thin, but that'll be true for any coach under 50. His resume is better than say Sean McVay's when he was hired. Your concern is valid though!

As for the leader of men, you can just hear about what his players say about him. Players respect him. Media respects him. Obviously, we can never really know if we're not behind closed doors. 

McVay's resume was an NFL resume though, not college.  

Are these players that are respecting him 22 year olds?   I still don't see the 'leader of men' connection.   Doug was actually a very good 'leader of men', these men fought hard for him even in the bad times and never gave up on him and put out efforts like we saw at the end of the Reid and Kelly tenure, despite the record.    But, what actual 'men' has Day led?   A college coach doesn't qualify for me.  College players are very much 'kids', no real responsibility.

 

I'm not trying to punch holes in the Ryan Day rumor, but I'm just not seeing it.  Limited HC experience at any level (2 years).  Limited NFL experience of any kind (2 years with Chip).  On the surface, the name is interesting.  But the more I've dug into him, the less impressed I've become.

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Would fix a total of zero issues staying at 6 and drafting a LB.   Micah Parsons is an intriguing (plug and play) player that could do wonders for a team in contention that is missing a piece. 

The Eagles are not that team. 

It's hard to evaluate given that the Eagles haven't had a truly game impacting LB since whenever. Looking at how Wagner influences the game for Seattle, with a DC that believes in the position it might be interesting. The general elevation of the D and then 2-3 game changing/winning plays per season is compelling. I don't know anything about Parsons and this is dependent on him being that kind of player. If the Eagles can get a good CB to compliment Slay, I think it is worth considering on a BPA basis with a complimentary change in D philosophy. The cupboard is pretty bare. More important, IMO, than the 6 pick is moving assets to get more picks in the first 3 rounds. I think Dillard is the most compelling asset here. LT is always a scarce resource, not a lot in this draft and he could land a high pick, maybe. The Eagles need more picks in the first 3 rounds and they need to hit at CB and S in addition to whatever O additions are added. Roseman needs to prove himself as a deal maker in terms of acquiring more picks. He's already proven himself, apparently with Laurie as the other brainiac, as a god-awful evaluator of talent.

10 minutes ago, austinfan said:

AR had full power, even got personnel power that lead to the dream team.

Chip had full power, which was a disaster.

Pederson didn't deserve that deference, b/c he was a clubhouse guy without a "binder," his choices for assistant coaches didn't inspire confidence.

I think if a HC candidate comes in prepared to run the show like AR, he'll get the authority to run the show, especially because he'll be running a rebuild, so the new HC will be hired b/c he's prepared, with explanations for the assistants he wants to hire.

You do realize that Reid and Kelly was over five years ago? Since then the Eagles won a Super Bowl and Howie and Lurie think they are the cat's meow.

 

Just now, Desertbirds said:

You do realize that Reid and Kelly was over five years ago? Since then the Eagles won a Super Bowl and Howie and Lurie think they are the cat's meow.

You tell 'em daddy-o!

 I don’t know anything about Bienemy, but he has the best QB in the league and weapons for him. I could be the Chiefs OC

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

You tell 'em daddy-o!

I cannot bring myself to use the now ubiquitous phrase, "smelling themselves."

16 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

That's basically the problem they had with Reich, he left, and here we are now because they were never able to adequately replace him. Offense is more important than defense in the NFL now. That's just how it is with the rules favoring offenses and the talent pool being better and deeper than it ever has been. Innovative offensive minds have staying power with consistently good teams. I'd rather hire a creative, innovative offensive-minded coach who is able to scheme and gameplan on his own with the help of his assistants, rather than relying on an offensive coordinator to do that who will probably end up getting a HC job of his own within a couple of years. 

That's why Reid is able to go through OC's like water and still have a potent offense. He's the mind, not necessarily his OCs. 

I think it would be an exceptional candidate that could handle both HC and OC duties well enough for me.  I understand your point - would make for greater consistency, but even with Andy, I think there were major flaws with his game day execution

 

5 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Finally got the trail camera, my wife got me for Christmas to work.  We live in a subdivision with a small patch of woods behind our house that has another subdivision on the other side of them.  But I see a ton of tracks.  

What if you capture a Samsquanch with that thing.

 

8 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The Jets and Falcons have interviewed Joe Brady; haven’t heard the Eagles have asked permission yet.  He’d be available to interview right away 

I think with Brady you need a team similar to ours honestly. Because Brady is going to need some time, he looks like he's talented but has a ton of room to grow, a ton! McVay was behind Gruden for what 2-3 years before the Rams plucked him. Brady has one full year as OC under his belt, but he also sat in the same room as Sean Payton and say what you want but Sean Payton is a good coach. Brady is green though and likely doesn't have a network of guys he can call to join his staff. 

Brady could take a year or two just for things to slow down for him as a HC. But really this is how I see the league going. Young minds with tons of ideas. It's a risky hire, especially when guys are being coached by someone the same age as them. But it could also become something special 2-3 years from now. You never know, we thought Pederson was the worst hire of all candidates. 

Did the Ravens know Harbaugh would be who he is after being mainly a ST's guy?

Any plan for rebuilding the Eagles that includes taking an off ball linebacker with maturity issues is a really bad one. 

Sorry if already posted, but not a ringing endorsement for Hurts

 

If Day is the pick he better bring Brian Hartline with him

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Sorry if already posted, but not a ringing endorsement for Hurts

 

See, the problem is that you're believing Doug Gottlieb. 

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Sorry if already posted, but not a ringing endorsement for Hurts

 

Honestly hiring Riley would not excite me one bit.  I have my doubts about him as an NFL coach.

On another note.....wtf does Doug Gottlieb know about what Riley's favorites are?

1 minute ago, RLC said:

See, the problem is that you're believing Doug Gottlieb. 

He’s a dope, but it’s a good point. This job is much worse than the Dallas job. 

Caplan and Mosher killed Lurie in their ITB pod today.

5 minutes ago, Maga301 said:

I think with Brady you need a team similar to ours honestly. Because Brady is going to need some time, he looks like he's talented but has a ton of room to grow, a ton! McVay was behind Gruden for what 2-3 years before the Rams plucked him. Brady has one full year as OC under his belt, but he also sat in the same room as Sean Payton and say what you want but Sean Payton is a good coach. Brady is green though and likely doesn't have a network of guys he can call to join his staff. 

Brady could take a year or two just for things to slow down for him as a HC. But really this is how I see the league going. Young minds with tons of ideas. It's a risky hire, especially when guys are being coached by someone the same age as them. But it could also become something special 2-3 years from now. You never know, we thought Pederson was the worst hire of all candidates. 

Did the Ravens know Harbaugh would be who he is after being mainly a ST's guy?

I agree.  Just from a process standpoint and due diligence, though, you’d think they would set something up and speak with him.