6 hours ago, WentzFan11 said:

Doug won a super bowl in year 2. The NFL shouldn’t take you 4 years to be a contender. With the right moves you can turn it around much sooner. 

Doesn't what you're starting with enter into that? A team with mostly good young plays might get better quickly. A team with old injury prone and expensive talent might take longer. 

6 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Joe Banner seems to think the Eagles already have their guy, but that's just his opinion. I don't know, it doesn't feel that way with how the reporters are covering it.

Joe Banner don't know crap. Plenty of organizations including this one fire their head coach before they figure out who's next

1 hour ago, EagleJoe8 said:

In other words, Duce. 

But if it’s Duce, why not just hire him after a couple of interviews? I think Daboll is who they want.

5 hours ago, TEW said:

I think it really depends how drastic the rebuild is. If we are trading guys like Graham, Cox, Johnson and Brooks along with guys like Kelce, Ertz, etc leaving I think it could get pretty ugly. None of that will help fix Wentz, either. He’s going to have another cobbled together OL and a bunch of unknowns at WR.

we aren't trading away our o-line. 

1 minute ago, Solomon said:

But if it’s Duce, why not just hire him after a couple of interviews? I think Daboll is who they want.

They wanna do their "due diligence”. They have to know their image is bad. How much worse would it look if they only interviewed Duce and hired him off the bat? I’d love Daboll, but I fear we’re going to have a very meh type hire. 

Duce is a fan favorite as a running back but what in the world would qualify him to be head coach? Has he ever gotten an interview?  I mean if the stories are true Doug wasn't even going to promote him to o.c. 

i think the narrative that this is not a good place for a hc candidate to go to is completely short sighted.

its the weakest division in football, anyone with any confidence in themselves looks at it and thinks, my god, you cant fall off the floor, i can only make it better, and it will be easy.

its also the division with the biggest markets and is most visible, easy to build your brand. 

We have 2 potential starting qbs, one is a fromer mvp candidate pro bowl with prototypical size and skills, with one bad year on a bad team. The other a running qb rookie with a few starts under his belt. 

Owner and gm know they have a roster/cap issue, meaning the new HC likely gets a full 3 years to turn it around and wont get a 1 year boot.

Jeff is not cheap, will spend the money to win now when the time is right, and wants to win.

 

 

7 minutes ago, greend said:

Joe Banner don't know crap. Plenty of organizations including this one fire their head coach before they figure out who's next

not plenty..... like 98%, most fire their hc, and then do the due diligence to hire the next guy

3 minutes ago, greend said:

Duce is a fan favorite as a running back but what in the world would qualify him to be head coach? Has he ever gotten an interview?  I mean if the stories are true Doug wasn't even going to promote him to o.c. 

my main issue with duce would be i didnt like his rb rotation, it gives me no confidence he would be a good hc.

16 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

i think the narrative that this is not a good place for a hc candidate to go to is completely short sighted.

its the weakest division in football, anyone with any confidence in themselves looks at it and thinks, my god, you cant fall off the floor, i can only make it better, and it will be easy.

its also the division with the biggest markets and is most visible, easy to build your brand. 

We have 2 potential starting qbs, one is a fromer mvp candidate pro bowl with prototypical size and skills, with one bad year on a bad team. The other a running qb rookie with a few starts under his belt. 

Owner and gm know they have a roster/cap issue, meaning the new HC likely gets a full 3 years to turn it around and wont get a 1 year boot.

Jeff is not cheap, will spend the money to win now when the time is right, and wants to win.

 

 

I don't really understand this argument in the NFL.

Owners aren't going to buy you better players, they don't pay a luxury tax to go over the cap, they pay for coaches/staff/scouts and I would guess facilities. You can offer a lot of money to a coach but they still have to choose to come here.

Not a blast on you I see this a lot and I never understand why. Baseball and basketball, sure, owners' spending matters in terms of success. Football, I don't see it. I'm sure someone here could explain it but owner spending I would assume matters more at a fan level. Are they willing to upgrade the stadium, provide a good fan experience etc. Can't see why it would matter to a prospective HC.

5 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

TFWIW 

 

I hope Doug now takes the Jets job and trades a 1st or 2nd for Hurts.   NY media will love that. Jets SB in 2022!!!

7 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Joe Banner seems to think the Eagles already have their guy, but that's just his opinion. I don't know, it doesn't feel that way with how the reporters are covering it.

If you're going to fire your head coach a week after the season, you must have some idea of who the replacement is. 

Too bad we have the "cap wizard" or we might have had a chance if Robinson does hit free agency.  Good thing we have DeSean and alshon! Thanks Howie! 

 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

If you're going to fire your head coach a week after the season, you must have some idea of who the replacement is. 

I feel like a team definitely has an idea of who they want, but obviously there are a ton of factors that end up going into it. Does that coach actually become available, do they have the same vision as the org, does the interview give you any second thoughts (I feel like I have never heard of a HC interview going badly), does another candidate come in and blow you away.

So they likely have an idea of who they want at first but that might not be the guy they hire in the end. 

1 hour ago, greend said:

Joe Banner don't know crap. Plenty of organizations including this one fire their head coach before they figure out who's next

I’m not sure why you’d say that. Obviously Banner has a pretty good insight into our franchise, as well as how Lurie and Howie operate. 

1 hour ago, greend said:

Duce is a fan favorite as a running back but what in the world would qualify him to be head coach? Has he ever gotten an interview?  I mean if the stories are true Doug wasn't even going to promote him to o.c. 

Good point, I've never heard his name come up other than if it's with the Eagles.  That alone should tell you he's not the best candidate.

9 hours ago, austinfan said:

Problem is that the college game is nothing like the pro game anymore, I remember Vince Young winning a Championship with my Longhorns, beating USC, but the great athleticism and arm that worked at the college level didn't work in the NFL. Now there are 3 or 4 guys every year with 4.4 speed and a 50 yard arm who look great against simple college defenses and matching up WRs against CBs who'll never play on Sunday. But in the NFL they take away the outside run, cover your receivers and force throws from the pocket into tight windows. For every Mahomes, there are 4 or 5 guys who have meh careers.

Fields is a good example, against Alabama, he crashed to earth. I don't think he's won't be a NFL QB, I just didn't see the vision and accuracy to be a top ten QB.

Jones is the opposite, vision, accuracy but an average arm at best and below average athleticism. Of course, that's the description of Drew Brees for the decade after he hurt his shoulder.

Vince Young's problem was between his ears. I'd bet his actual IQ hovered around 50. 

Saleh I think would be a good hire. If our biggest problem year over year is that our offense is so good that our OC is always being poached....I dunno, I see that as a good thing? AR seems to be having a good time with that problem.

 

And, if losing our OC the next year (like with Reich) means winning another Super Bowl....I'll make that trade. 

13 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’m not sure why you’d say that. Obviously Banner has a pretty good insight into our franchise, as well as how Lurie and Howie operate. 

Well in my experience from his tweets he doesn't seem to have any more knowledge than anyone else on here, and quite honestly he's speculating here. 

35 minutes ago, devpool said:

Too bad we have the "cap wizard" or we might have had a chance if Robinson does hit free agency.  Good thing we have DeSean and alshon! Thanks Howie! 

 

The WR FA class is stacked this year. Really sucks the Eagles can't do a thing.

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

Saleh I think would be a good hire. If our biggest problem year over year is that our offense is so good that our OC is always being poached....I dunno, I see that as a good thing? AR seems to be having a good time with that problem.

 

And, if losing our OC the next year (like with Reich) means winning another Super Bowl....I'll make that trade. 

That’s assuming he can replace the first one adequately if needed. Vrabel was able to, so there’s that. 

1 minute ago, greend said:

Well in my experience from his tweets he doesn't seem to have any more knowledge than anyone else on here, and quite honestly he's speculating here. 

Perhaps, or he could just be playing coy about it. He definitely has more knowledge. How couldn’t he?

1 hour ago, devpool said:

I don't really understand this argument in the NFL.

Owners aren't going to buy you better players, they don't pay a luxury tax to go over the cap, they pay for coaches/staff/scouts and I would guess facilities. You can offer a lot of money to a coach but they still have to choose to come here.

Not a blast on you I see this a lot and I never understand why. Baseball and basketball, sure, owners' spending matters in terms of success. Football, I don't see it. I'm sure someone here could explain it but owner spending I would assume matters more at a fan level. Are they willing to upgrade the stadium, provide a good fan experience etc. Can't see why it would matter to a prospective HC.

He is talking about spending more on a HC than another time. If there is a coach Lurie really wants he will spend the money / years of investments.

If it comes down to money Eagles are near top of list for that one. If it is Lurie's guy

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

That’s assuming he can replace the first one adequately if needed. Vrabel was able to, so there’s that. 

Perhaps, or he could just be playing coy about it. He definitely has more knowledge. How couldn’t he?

I'm not sure the organization shares any info with him or why they would.

 

Rooting for this. Not only for the curiosity factor, but it opens up more doors for us.