What is absolutely amazing to me is last year everyone on this board when caplan and mosher talked about Mike kafka potentially being the offensive coordinator before Andy Reid blocked him were completely on board and excited because he was young, he was smart, Andy Reid loved him and he worked with Patrick Mahomes before he blew up to be mahomes. everyone was giddy and excited it could happen. the talk was also from caplan last year he’s going to eventually be a really good head coach.

This year no we don’t want him anymore cause caplan said he doesn’t know what his personality is (which he’s said) and mosher had a couple dealings with him in the locker room nearly a decade ago when he was younger and one source said he’s introvert. Meanwhile that introvertedness hasn’t really stopped him from having Patrick Mahomes play like an MVP for three consecutive seasons as he’s been the passing coordinator and qb coach. 

7 hours ago, Swoop said:

Have absolutely no interest in Duce as a HC and wouldn't be even a little excited if that was the hire.

Huge mistake if it happens.

If Duce does become HC I'm sure it will be for the same tenure as Ray Rhodes.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

You don’t think Mike Greenberg is smart? He might have hot takes on sports at times. but go look at his career and where he’s gotten to at ESPN. An idiot does not get to where he is in life nor the peaks he’s gotten too at ESPN without having intelligence. ESPN routinely fires people and even talented ones and yet he survived is making ridiculous money. 

I think he’s shady and good at playing the political game at ESPN.  He forecasted the end of Mike and Mike and pulled the switch; Golic drowned, even though he was the credibility of that show.  Wingo was rightly fired because he seldom showed up to work — there were guest hosts on Golic and Wingo more often than those guys were ever on the show

Greenberg is on the wrong side of almost every stance he ever got excited about.  I can’t say he doesn’t fit in with most of the national sports media on that, though.
 

Just now, RLC said:

This organization under Lurie has historically been great at hiring coaches.

I think they got extremely lucky on two occasions: Doug and Andy. Rhodes was nothing special, Chip was awful(their backup was Bradley who was also awful), and Doug wasn't even their choice, they wanted Adam Fing Gase and Ben McAdoo, two of the worst coaches you'll ever see. The fact that they considered firing Doug after 2016 tells you how highly they thought of him, and firing him now and blaming everything on him shows that even more.

They've made one amazing hire in Reid, and they've been living off that. Their process is inherently flawed, and I don't think Lurie and Howie have any clue what they're looking for or what they're doing.

Would rather have Doug over Kafka Duce or Bowles

talk about underwhelming 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

What is absolutely amazing to me is last year everyone on this board when caplan and mosher talked about Mike kafka potentially being the offensive coordinator before Andy Reid blocked him were completely on board and excited because he was young, he was smart, Andy Reid loved him and he worked with Patrick Mahomes before he blew up to be mahomes. everyone was giddy and excited it could happen. the talk was also from caplan last year he’s going to eventually be a really good head coach.

This year no we don’t want him anymore cause caplan said he doesn’t know what his personality is (which he’s said) and mosher had a couple dealings with him in the locker room nearly a decade ago when he was younger and one source said he’s introvert. Meanwhile that introvertedness hasn’t really stopped him from having Patrick Mahomes play like an MVP for three consecutive seasons as he’s been the passing coordinator and qb coach. 

 

Big difference between an OC and a HC.  If we are bringing him as an OC this year I am all for it. 

10 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Kafka is Doug 2.0. A younger "yes" man. Lurie said in his PC he is looking for a leader of men, Doubt Kafka fills that role. So maybe hes a offensive great mind? Dont see that either. So Im still trying to understand why people think hes the guy. Only reason I heard was he was smart cause he went to NorthWestern. 

I could be talked into Kafka for OC, but I think he’s unqualified to be a head coach.  

Just now, Alphagrand said:

I think he’s shady and good at playing the political game at ESPN.  He forecasted the end of Mike and Mike and pulled the switch; Golic drowned, even though he was the credibility of that show.  Wingo was rightly fired because he seldom showed up to work — there were guest hosts on Golic and Wingo more often than those guys were ever on the show

Greenberg is on the wrong side of almost every stance he ever got excited about.  I can’t say he doesn’t fit in with most of the national sports media on that, though.
 

Like I said he has hot takes on sports. Which seems to be the thing everyone does on almost every sports media. So he’s smart enough to see that they’re doing it and run with it as well.

But you have to be pretty smart to get where he started to where he is now as one of The highest paid sports personalities in the industry. That takes smart and intelligence to work your way to getting to that point. It didn’t happen because he just play the political game. There’s been a bunch of people at ESPN who played the political game and ESPN didn’t try to retain them and let them walk. 

i really think it has alot to do with the coaching staff these candidates are going to bringing in, if lurie doesnt want rookie coaches at dc and oc, that's pretty much a reason why they arent getting hired, they want someone that will hire an experienced staff, that's why doug got canned.

17 minutes ago, phil77 said:

 

Big difference between an OC and a HC.  If we are bringing him as an OC this year I am all for it. 

You’re eventually going to lose him if he’s a great offensive coordinator. So in two years if he has his offense playing like a top offense what do you thinks going to happen? He’s going to leave. so if he leaves and let’s say you hired duce Staley to be the head coach he better know somebody who is a good OC to replace him because that’s not his strength. 

Secondly he’s not leaving the Chiefs to be a OC here knowing that Bieniemy is going to leave at some point and he’s gonna become their OC. then have success because the Chiefs offense is going to consistently be good. And then he likely gets an HC job. So everyone pays attention to when Mosher and caplan talk about his personality but they forget when mosher and Caplan say he’s not gonna leave the Chiefs to be the OC here when he’s likely going to be the OC there in a better offense

he’s not my top guy. I would go after Joe Brady. However Joe Brady doesn’t have an immense amount of experience either. He’s been the offensive coordinator for the panthers for one year. And he was passing game coordinator and WR coach at LSU for a year. And a offensive assistant with the Saints for two years. A grad assistant for 2 years at PSU. And a LB coach for 2 years at William and Mary. That’s about 7 years of experience and only 3-4 years coaching a high level assistant position. 

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

Every coach Lurie has hired has taken the Eagles to the playoffs, most multiple times (Chip missed with a 10-6 record).

Howie build AR's "dream team, " then when it didn't work, had two great drafts that built Chip's  "genius team," then when that fizzled built a SB winning team.

Eagle fans under 40 are just spoiled, those of us who wandered the wilderness of the 1960s and 1970s know how bad it can be, even those who experienced the post-Vermeil years should know better. Six straight seasons missing the playoffs before the Buddy Ryan show came to town, then Kotite.

Eagles are coming off a SB win followed by two more playoff seasons, so if we have to put up with three losing seasons, well, that's life.

All these "outside" GMs, what are the odds that any can build a playoff team, if it was so easy, how come teams like Detroit have made the playoffs 3 times in 21 seasons?

The top GMs don't hit the market, you're hiring either retreads or assistants you hope learned something from their bosses.

Howie has already built two playoff teams, the fact that his attempt to keep the window open failed doesn't mean he's not the right guy for the third rebuild.

This. I said it before I'll say it again. Lotta my friends would love to have the last 20 years the Eagles had. People here in Atlanta will never get over 28-3. The Browns are overly hype because this is new to most of them. Detroit has already been brought up. We've had it good, if not great. We should always strive for improvement and call out things when needed. But how many teams would you trade our last 20 years with?

Finally some good news

 

39 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

y'all freaking out on report by John mcmullen.  lol

Not even a report. It’s a prediction. 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Not even a report. It’s a prediction. 

I have a hard time believing we'll go back to the KC tree. That doesn't scream innovation that Jeffrey wants.

Just now, RLC said:

I have a hard time believing we'll go back to the KC tree. That doesn't scream innovation that Jeffrey wants.

Legitimately asking what innovation are they getting if they hire Duce? He’s basically from the reid coaching tree besides the three years with chip. 

I could see the Eagles being very interested in anything that has surrounded Patrick Mahomes. Kafka wouldn't surprise me one bit.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Legitimately asking what innovation are they getting if they hire Duce? He’s basically from the reid coaching tree besides the three years with chip. 

Unless we are hiring Lincoln Riley, we aren’t getting innovation. Brady is smart, but I don’t think he’s particularly innovative. 

None of us have any clue who would be a good hire. Look how many hot shot HC candidates fall flat on their faces.

Most of what you hear in the media is second-hand hearsay at best, a lot is just idle speculation.

Would Kafka be better or worse than Brady, well, unless you sat in their interviews, you probably don't have a clue, and unless you were intimate with what they actually did in terms of coaching, their "results" could be their doing, or them being given credit for things they really weren't the primary mover.

None of the four previous coaches were bad moves, Rhodes revived the franchise after Kotite, AR wasn't an accident, they could recognize that a highly organized QB coach was a better choice than a name coach without a clue, Chip was a gamble but to be fair he was an innovator, he just had some fatal flaws that made it hard to sustain success, and they were smart enough to move on before he deep-sixed the franchise, Pederson was the perfect coach to heal the wounds after Chip.

Now the odds of finding another AR are probably 10:1 no matter how smart you are, you don't get too many shots at HOF caliber HCs. But at least they know why they liked him and also know from Chip and Pederson the limits of both extremes ("genius" and "clubhouse").

Just now, schuy7 said:

I could see the Eagles being very interested in anything that has surrounded Patrick Mahomes. Kafka wouldn't surprise me one bit.

I hope Kafka is bringing Reid’s brain and Mahomes’ arm. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Unless we are hiring Lincoln Riley, we aren’t getting innovation. Brady is smart, but I don’t think he’s particularly innovative. 

That i can agree with. 

Just now, austinfan said:

None of us have any clue who would be a good hire. Look how many hot shot HC candidates fall flat on their faces.

Most of what you hear in the media is second-hand hearsay at best, a lot is just idle speculation.

Would Kafka be better or worse than Brady, well, unless you sat in their interviews, you probably don't have a clue, and unless you were intimate with what they actually did in terms of coaching, their "results" could be their doing, or them being given credit for things they really weren't the primary mover.

None of the four previous coaches were bad moves, Rhodes revived the franchise after Kotite, AR wasn't an accident, they could recognize that a highly organized QB coach was a better choice than a name coach without a clue, Chip was a gamble but to be fair he was an innovator, he just had some fatal flaws that made it hard to sustain success, and they were smart enough to move on before he deep-sixed the franchise, Pederson was the perfect coach to heal the wounds after Chip.

Now the odds of finding another AR are probably 10:1 no matter how smart you are, you don't get too many shots at HOF caliber HCs. But at least they know why they liked him and also know from Chip and Pederson the limits of both extremes ("genius" and "clubhouse").

This is very true. Doesn’t stop any of us from sharing strong opinions though. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

I hope Kafka is bringing Reid’s brain and Mahomes’ arm. 

Me too. 😅

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Unless we are hiring Lincoln Riley, we aren’t getting innovation. Brady is smart, but I don’t think he’s particularly innovative. 

And Riley is another gamble on a college coach without NFL experience.

There's no right answer - because few top HCs ever become available, you become available because you lost too many seasons.

There are however many wrong answers, but usually you only find out after the fact.

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

What did you expect to be the result of the last three seasons? They gambled and lost. The 2017 team had almost no talent under 25 due to two bad Chip drafts, and the trade up for Wentz.

We won the SB, isn't that the goal? The goal of cap management is to win, not to win the most cap room contest.

Now the chickens have come home to roost, so we have three lean years after three flush years. I'll take that anytime.

If by 2023, the Eagles aren't positioned to take a step up, then it's time for Howie to go. But he's earned the right for one more shot at rebuilding.

Bad Chip drafts? He landed Lane Johnson, Zach Ertz and Jordan Poyer In his first draft. Had a bad 2nd draft then got Nelson Agholor Eric Rowe and Jordan Hicks who all become solid starters. Not great but nowhere near as bad as Howies been the last 3 years. 
 

So it’s win a SB then pay the price? I beg to differ. Plenty of teams win SBs (some multiple) and still remain competitive. Seattle, New England, New Orleans, Baltimore, Pittsburg, Green Bay, so let’s get real here. Your reaching badly and now just look like another Eagles fan boy. 
 

 

If anyone else spewed the stuff you been saying for the last 2-3 days the entire blog would be threatening to ignore you. Congratulations on that somehow you dont annoy the Blog elitist 

Just now, austinfan said:

None of us have any clue who would be a good hire. Look how many hot shot HC candidates fall flat on their faces.

Most of what you hear in the media is second-hand hearsay at best, a lot is just idle speculation.

Would Kafka be better or worse than Brady, well, unless you sat in their interviews, you probably don't have a clue, and unless you were intimate with what they actually did in terms of coaching, their "results" could be their doing, or them being given credit for things they really weren't the primary mover.

None of the four previous coaches were bad moves, Rhodes revived the franchise after Kotite, AR wasn't an accident, they could recognize that a highly organized QB coach was a better choice than a name coach without a clue, Chip was a gamble but to be fair he was an innovator, he just had some fatal flaws that made it hard to sustain success, and they were smart enough to move on before he deep-sixed the franchise, Pederson was the perfect coach to heal the wounds after Chip.

Now the odds of finding another AR are probably 10:1 no matter how smart you are, you don't get too many shots at HOF caliber HCs. But at least they know why they liked him and also know from Chip and Pederson the limits of both extremes ("genius" and "clubhouse").

I actually think it’s way higher than this. More like 1000:1 chance. There’s not many Andy Reid’s walking around on this earth. He is arguably the second best coach of the last two decades behind only Bill Belichick