Just now, ManuManu said:

Because, frankly, players can be pretty dumb. Duce might be a great guy and a good leader, but is he organized enough to lead a team? Does he have a good enough Rolodex to hire a good staff and replace that staff as they move on?

Players often fight for holdovers and interim coaches. They value the familiarity. 

True enough.  But, a lot of players have good things to say about him, and not just current players....and theyre not just saying that hes their good buddy either, its about his coaching

If I keep hearing the same things over and over again from players past and present, players who arent morons, I tend to believe it

I still think the organizational structure is almost as important as who they hire.  I want to believe that Lurie and Howie treated Doug how they did because they felt they had to, not because they wanted to

Id be OK with Duce given the right circumstances.  And I hesitate writing off anyone and everyone on the staff due to their association with the failures of the last year or so, because we now clearly know that Lurie and Howie really meddled too much and screwed up the whole dynamic

Regardless, Howie and Lurie will be here for the next coaching staff.  So if they havent learned their lessons its not going to matter anyway.  We could hire Parcells and if they neutered him like Doug it would fail

 

9 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I know nothing about Riley, frankly.  But, I do know that he's a career NCAA guy.  How many of those have been successful in the NFL without any NFL experience prior to getting to wear the HC mantle?  I've got Jimmy Johnson on that list, buoyed by the stupidest trade in the history of the NFL.

The longer I think about it, the more Im souring on Riley

He picked up a successful program and basically hasnt taken them to the next level.  0-3 in the playoffs and while they regularly destroy my Mountaineers, they are just not title contenders like they should be.  His resume is pretty thin, too

28 minutes ago, BGDutchNorris said:

I feel like Chip was a bad GM moreso than a bad coach. When he was just coaching things were working. And we can't say his systems aren't in the NFL now (outside of the constant hurry up). We didn't have talent because anyone who wasn't down with his culture had to go. Lost good years from Desean for starters.

Now I do agree they didn't even like the guy who ended up winning the Super Bowl. What else is he supposed to do lol? Esp seeing how Gase and McAdoo flamed out

My biggest issue with Chip the head coach was every time (every time) the Eagles played a top 5-10 defense, his offense got shut down.

He lacked the ability to adapt his offense and the team became a finesse group that got pushed around 

My Longhorns have given Oklahoma a run for their money in the Red River shoot outs, I didn't think Oklahoma was better under Riley than Stoopes.

With no NFL experience, he down my list, I'd rather he spent time as an OC before giving him a NFL HC job.

The NFL is so different than college, you don't recruit, 45 man active roster, the defenses are so much more sophisticated and you can't identify the gross mismatches you can exploit with spread formations in college (i.e. no scrub CBs running 4.7 40 you can pick on, maybe if you're lucky you catch the Eagles with Jacquart at CB!).

I don't care if players like the HC anymore. Can he be respected enough to get the players to put their all into the game. Can he replace his own staff if they fail at their job. Is he willing to adapt his play calling and scheme when something he's doing isn't working. Can he mold his offense around the guys he has instead of making them do something they can't. Will he put the best players out there regardless of how long they've been on the team

14 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

The point is - it is utterly irrelevant that the players are pushing for him. He is their guy. Got it. It doesn’t impact my view positively or negatively. 
 

The fact that no team has even interviewed him for an OC job after all these years - that means something. And we need change, not an even less powerful yes-man. 

The "Yes Man" risk will be present regardless of who they hire, given the reported candidates.  

Compare Joe Bradys resume to Dougs before he took the HC job.  Look familiar?  

Not sure why people think Lurie and Howie would treat a guy with a resume just like Doug's differently than they treated Doug

 

26 minutes ago, RLC said:

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Could be just a contingency plan.  They’d be dumb not to identify anybody in the event Brady does get a job.

The Eagles have possibly told him they need to get the Staley and Bowles interviews done first.  Not sure if they have any other interviews scheduled 

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

The "Yes Man" risk will be present regardless of who they hire, given the reported candidates.  

Compare Joe Bradys resume to Dougs before he took the HC job.  Look familiar?  

Not sure why people think Lurie and Howie would treat a guy with a resume just like Doug's differently than they treated Doug

The resume isn't what determines the treatment, it's the man.

AR obtained deference because he was organized and had all the answers.

But if I'm Howie, and I ask my HC why he did something/hired someone and my HC goes , uh, and can't explain his reasoning, yeah, I lose confidence pretty quickly.

7 minutes ago, austinfan said:

The resume isn't what determines the treatment, it's the man.

AR obtained deference because he was organized and had all the answers.

But if I'm Howie, and I ask my HC why he did something/hired someone and my HC goes , uh, and can't explain his reasoning, yeah, I lose confidence pretty quickly.

You mean like when the media asked Lurie why he stuck with Howie and he went, uh, and couldn’t explain his reasoning?

That NFL rums account is fake. Here is the real one.

https://twitter.com/nfltrade_rumors

35 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I think we should be careful about comparing Chip to Lincoln. Chip was a fraud who promised trends and counter trends. None of it came to fruition. He also was an egomaniac. 

Riley can he innovative without the baggage. 

Big difference between Chip and Lincoln Riley. Chip had a gimmick and Lincoln has an actual scheme. 

Brady would be a franchise changer. I'm shocked this might happen. I'm trying not to get hyped. 

24 minutes ago, austinfan said:

The resume isn't what determines the treatment, it's the man.

AR obtained deference because he was organized and had all the answers.

But if I'm Howie, and I ask my HC why he did something/hired someone and my HC goes , uh, and can't explain his reasoning, yeah, I lose confidence pretty quickly.

I would suggest that whatever happened during Reid's tenure is irrelevant. After the SB victory, the owner and FO have exhibited increased arrogance and hubris. 

Please please please hire Brady 

22 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

Big difference between Chip and Lincoln Riley. Chip had a gimmick and Lincoln has an actual scheme. 

I don’t watch enough college football to have a strong opinion on Riley.  But people once said that was the different between Spurrier and Chip...

20 minutes ago, AzBirdGang said:

Brady would be a franchise changer. I'm shocked this might happen. I'm trying not to get hyped. 

7 minutes ago, phil77 said:

Please please please hire Brady 

Finnnne

38 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

You mean like when the media asked Lurie why he stuck with Howie and he went, uh, and couldn’t explain his reasoning?

Don't bring facts in the narrative spin.

21 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

I would suggest that whatever happened during Reid's tenure is irrelevant. After the SB victory, the owner and FO have exhibited increased arrogance and hubris. 

Ironically, similar to the arrogance and hubris displayed by AR after his string of CG failures and then the SB loss.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

There’s only one coach for the job guys

We know he can beat the Cowboys.

4 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

By my count, including Covid Reserves and PUP, the Eagles have 84 players currently on the roster and three more still on the PS and not signed to future contacts.  So who are the 34 that won’t run through a steel wall for Duce?

1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:

The "Yes Man" risk will be present regardless of who they hire, given the reported candidates.  

Compare Joe Bradys resume to Dougs before he took the HC job.  Look familiar?  

Not sure why people think Lurie and Howie would treat a guy with a resume just like Doug's differently than they treated Doug

Brady is a guy with other options, this year or in the future. Guys with no other options, like Duce and Doug, are much easier to control. 

3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It has to be external, you have to lose the coach/GM. Plus they probably don't want teams promoting from within just to exploit the draft pick system

That seems back assward.  You want teams to develop diverse coaches and GMs but if you do that and promote (suggesting a diverse organization) there is no reward but if someone poaches that employee, you do.  

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

There’s only one coach for the job guys

Nope, sorry. This team values analytics. We need the real Coach of the team who called the greatest play in history

 

17 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

We know he can beat the Cowboys.

This kid is the OC. 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Nope, sorry. This team values analytics. We need the real Coach of the team who called the greatest play in history

 

No he’s going to be the offensive coordinator. Clearly Rick Moranis is more of a leader and has experience whereas he doesn’t have that yet