This coaching search is getting to the point where I'm barely interested anymore. If they don't hire someone by Friday you'd have to think they are waiting on someone who is still coaching or still trying to get a college coach to take the job. If not, they just come off as extremely indecisive and lacking a real vision and plan for the team moving forward.

I glanced through this article quickly earlier just to see the parts about Duce turning down the OC role. What I missed was the fact that yet another article portrays Carson as an arse.

Folks on the EMB can keep burying their heads in the sand but Carson is a problem. He doesn’t just need a QB coach to fix him: he needs to grow up. And he needs to do it somewhere else.

10 minutes ago, Thrive said:

I glanced through this article quickly earlier just to see the parts about Duce turning down the OC role. What I missed was the fact that yet another article portrays Carson as an arse.

Folks on the EMB can keep burying their heads in the sand but Carson is a problem. He doesn’t just need a QB coach to fix him: he needs to grow up. And he needs to do it somewhere else.

Nonsense.  This is a hit job on the organization from someone who has no grasp on what the process is.  Lurie already told the media this will not be a race to hire the first coach — it will be a wide net and may take until early February, and "that’s great”

So, this turd decides because the Eagles "took longer than five minutes to fill the job” that this is Wentz’s fault?  Duce would hold the players (including Wentz) accountable where Doug wouldn’t?

Since he obviously, by the point of the article, wants Staley to be the head coach — what is Duce’s expertise on QB development?  What are Duce’s qualifications drawing up scheme?  You think the players are texting Lurie lobbying for Duce because they can’t wait for him to lay down the law?  This caliber of crap reporting — to both Wentz and McDaniels really — gives the Philly media their well-earned status of tabloid-garbage.

Who do you think is the more qualified head coaching candidate — McDaniels, or Duce.  Even if McDaniels has a well-deserved stain for his Colts fiasco, at least 75% of NFL teams would choose McDaniels over Duce.  Domowitch loses all credibility by suggesting otherwise 

2 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Ok.  I think I screwed  it up when I said "excuse me Me officer”.  I was thinking if that one song that says "I’m a lyrical gangster”.  My bad.  

Hotstepper lol. 

3 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Lyrical poet in case you didn’t know it...

Miami’s on the scene just in case you know it lol

According to Philadelphia Inquirer reporter Paul Domowitch, Riley was the Eagles’ top choice to become the team’s head coach and offered him the job, but Riley declined.

 

 

Welp I guess my dreams are shot....

4 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

According to Philadelphia Inquirer reporter Paul Domowitch, Riley was the Eagles’ top choice to become the team’s head coach and offered him the job, but Riley declined.

 

 

Welp I guess my dreams are shot....

Yup — and according to Domowitch, the Eagles are a failure of an organization — because Lincoln Riley said no.

I wonder, however, if he considered the fact that Pederson had a salary of about $4M per year, while Riley has a 5-year deal to coach OU, paying him $7.5M per year through 2025,  with infinitely more job security 

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Yup — and according to Domowitch, the Eagles are a failure of an organization — because Lincoln Riley said no.

I wonder, however, if he considered the fact that Pederson had a salary of about $4M per year, while Riley has a 5-year deal to coach OU, paying him $7.5M per year through 2025,  with infinitely more job security 

To be honest I really only see Lincoln Riley leaving Oklahoma to go to the Dallas Cowboys. It’s close to where he wants to be. Frankly I was shocked the Cowboys didn’t go all in and try to get Lincoln Riley to leave Oklahoma last year when they went and hired Mike McCarthy. Whenever McCarthy gets fired which could be next year, I think he’s going to be the top candidate to be Cowboys coach. I don’t think Jerry jones will have a problem giving him 10 million+ a year to leave Oklahoma. 

14 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

To be honest I really only see Lincoln Riley leaving Oklahoma to go to the Dallas Cowboys. It’s close to where he wants to be. Frankly I was shocked the Cowboys didn’t go all in and try to get Lincoln Riley to leave Oklahoma last year when they went and hired Mike McCarthy. Whenever McCarthy gets fired which could be next year, I think he’s going to be the top candidate to be Cowboys coach. I don’t think Jerry jones will have a problem giving him 10 million+ a year to leave Oklahoma. 

Can’t be!  Apparently Wentz being an arse is the only reason Riley is not with the Eagles now! The Eagles should have filled the HC job in 5 minutes! F’n arse Wentz!

Apparently .....

3 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Can’t be!  Apparently Wentz being an arse is the only reason Riley is not with the Eagles now! The Eagles should have filled the HC job in 5 minutes! F’n arse Wentz!

Apparently .....

I think some of this wentz stuff is definitely being overblown, but there’s clearly something going on. Maybe it’s not a big deal, but whatever it is he needs the right coaches to ride him.

4 hours ago, jwill2420 said:

According to Philadelphia Inquirer reporter Paul Domowitch, Riley was the Eagles’ top choice to become the team’s head coach and offered him the job, but Riley declined.

 

 

Welp I guess my dreams are shot....

As expected.  The Eagles are a complete mess right now.  You can’t expect a top candidate to have any interest, unless they are offered an exorbitant salary.

23 minutes ago, Solomon said:

I think some of this wentz stuff is definitely being overblown, but there’s clearly something going on. Maybe it’s not a big deal, but whatever it is he needs the right coaches to ride him.

It's probably just like the reasons the team was bad this season. Wentz is part of it, but not the main part.

8 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah. That guy goes from 0-60 and then disappears for a while.   

My favorite times

8 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Speaking of trolls.  I noticed a couple of the Wentz haters have disappeared.   Did they give up?

I think there's a big idiots convention this week. Maybe they are there

8 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He never showed up at my house.

Sure he didn't. 

7 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

More cause he’s not aggressive enough at attacking the rim. If he just attacks the basket he could get like 10 times a night easily. If he’s shooting jumpers he’s not going to get fouled on them cause they are going to let him have those cause he hasn’t proven he can make them consistently. If Ben has 12 shots and 6-7 are jumpers the sixers are in a world of hurt. If he has 12 and it’s 8-9 dunks, layups or around the hoop that’s fine. If he just go to the basket he’ll get reach in fouls and shooting fouls. Problem is he doesn’t play with aggressiveness he needs to 

he needs to learn to shoot but really if he shoots 8 times goes 4-8 and gets to the line 10 times and makes 7 FTs that alone is 15 points. He also needs to become a much better ft shooter. If he was a consistent 70 percent I’m guessing he’d attack more. But he sits at 63%. Also don’t think he has the attitude where you are just going to attack every time. 

He is so reluctant.  One way or another he has to shoot more whether it is in the paint, pull up jumpers, 3s, elbow jumpers or his 8-10 foot turnaround- more shots.  

6 hours ago, Thrive said:

I glanced through this article quickly earlier just to see the parts about Duce turning down the OC role. What I missed was the fact that yet another article portrays Carson as an arse.

Folks on the EMB can keep burying their heads in the sand but Carson is a problem. He doesn’t just need a QB coach to fix him: he needs to grow up. And he needs to do it somewhere else.

K, text me when a source is man or woman enough to put their names with these allegations. Why Carson Wentz COULD BE a reason. 

1 hour ago, John_C said:

As expected.  The Eagles are a complete mess right now.  You can’t expect a top candidate to have any interest, unless they are offered an exorbitant salary.

I am glad Riley declined.  He's another college only guy with zero NFL experience.  There's been one that ever worked out that I'm aware of.  Hershel Walker trade made that one.  He sucked in Miami.

 

Hard pass on any college guy with zero NFL experience.

1 hour ago, Solomon said:

I think some of this wentz stuff is definitely being overblown, but there’s clearly something going on. Maybe it’s not a big deal, but whatever it is he needs the right coaches to ride him.

It's name is Alshon if there is something going on. BTW purely speculation on my part I have no "source".

1 minute ago, greend said:

It's name is Alshon if there is something going on. BTW purely speculation on my part I have no "source".

Neither does anyone else.

1 hour ago, John_C said:

As expected.  The Eagles are a complete mess right now.  You can’t expect a top candidate to have any interest, unless they are offered an exorbitant salary.

Well bro as a manager now for 30 something years I'll tell you this. I would rather take over a store that is a complete mess versus one that is top of the line. Only one way to go when a stores on top. However if you can see the problems and can fix the problems the sky is the limit from the bottom

12 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I am glad Riley declined.  He's another college only guy with zero NFL experience.  There's been one that ever worked out that I'm aware of.  Hershel Walker trade made that one.  He sucked in Miami.

 

Hard pass on any college guy with zero NFL experience.

Interesting, I haven’t thought much about the relative success rates of college coaches in the NFL.  I remember the obvious failures but they are contrasted with the Jimmy Johnson cowboys era.

I think of Spurrier, Saban, visor moron etc. as the cautionary tales, and yes I know there are others.

Besides Johnson, there is the recent example of Jim Harbaugh, who was an excellent coach for the 49ers after what he did at Stanford.  Also Pete Caroll at USC but I recognize he is like 80 and has coached a bunch in both leagues.

I’m not at all against a college coach, it’s more about the coach to me... are they a leader, do they work in a "system” or do they work off the players they have and implement systems to maximize strengths, etc.  Can they lead men, or are they taskmasters of young boys (visor idiot) etc.  I’m on the record saying Urban Meyer will be a success as HC in the NFL.

6 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Nonsense.  This is a hit job on the organization from someone who has no grasp on what the process is.  Lurie already told the media this will not be a race to hire the first coach — it will be a wide net and may take until early February, and "that’s great”

So, this turd decides because the Eagles "took longer than five minutes to fill the job” that this is Wentz’s fault?  Duce would hold the players (including Wentz) accountable where Doug wouldn’t?

Since he obviously, by the point of the article, wants Staley to be the head coach — what is Duce’s expertise on QB development?  What are Duce’s qualifications drawing up scheme?  You think the players are texting Lurie lobbying for Duce because they can’t wait for him to lay down the law?  This caliber of crap reporting — to both Wentz and McDaniels really — gives the Philly media their well-earned status of tabloid-garbage.

Who do you think is the more qualified head coaching candidate — McDaniels, or Duce.  Even if McDaniels has a well-deserved stain for his Colts fiasco, at least 75% of NFL teams would choose McDaniels over Duce.  Domowitch loses all credibility by suggesting otherwise 

C'mon man, your using logic and reason and everyone knows logic doesnt play well in 2021...

11 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Oh god.  12 personal fan.  Hard pass.  

mcdaniels also loved it for a while when he had Hernandez and gronk. Even after Hernandez they still used it when they got Marcellus Bennett a few years later 

15 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Meh.  Sure.  But they pretty much started the trend.  Eagles have picked it up from there and made it their identity.   NE has since moved on.   That’s called coaching to your personal.   The Eagles had to run it because they refused to adapt or couldn’t/wouldn’t coach up wide receivers.   

Not sure the eagles have the personnel to run the 12 personnel with ertz gone and who knows with dick rod. Legitimately the eagles have one TE on the roster thats definitively here for 2021 and that’s goedert. Also the colts had 3 tight ends they really liked. Moe Allie-Cox, burton and Jack Doyle (plus togiai that the eagles lost because they played stupid with alshon). The colts actually as the season moved on this year used more 11 personnel as Pittman developed. They were running pascal, Hilton and Pittman out there more later in the season then early when Hilton was banged up and Pittman wasn’t ready. Also i did love how reich used hines and as the season went on Taylor in the pass game. People want sanders more involved in the passing game there were games where hines and taylor were used and targeted like 10-15 times where they exploited the linebacker matchup 

6 hours ago, Thrive said:

I glanced through this article quickly earlier just to see the parts about Duce turning down the OC role. What I missed was the fact that yet another article portrays Carson as an arse.

Folks on the EMB can keep burying their heads in the sand but Carson is a problem. He doesn’t just need a QB coach to fix him: he needs to grow up. And he needs to do it somewhere else.

The premise of the Duce part of the article is that the Eagles might not want to offer Duce the HC job because he would hold Wentz accountable. 

I wish Domo's sources went into more detail on the team "getting away with stuff the public doesn't know about."

The most interesting part of the article to me was the cut and dry Lincoln Riley denial and Duce being offered the OC job for the 2018 season.