3 minutes ago, phil77 said:

 

Yes but they didn't play there best players?  We are getting most of this because we switched QBs not because of effort.  If Big Ben played the Dolphins would be in the playoffs.

They’ll give you the excuse well they were resting him for bigger things ahead. It’s another reason I’d have started sudfeld from the start. Could have said didn’t want to get wentz or hurts hurt in the last game of the season and have it be major and go into 2021 season. 

22 minutes ago, bbabraham said:

Earlier I saw Florio mention that both Big Ben and Peyton Manning had slumps in their 3rd or 4th seasons and went on to do what they did. I don't remember any of that stuff. Does anyone remember what the context was there and if that's something that's plausible for Wentz?

Correct.  I believe it's because those specific teams realized that they had elite talents at QB on their hands, and they weren't going to let 1 bad season derail their long-term plans.  I barely remember those guys having bad seasons.  Big Ben was the product of an incredible defense early in his career, and this also helped his cause.  There also wasn't any social media presence for morons to post opinions, reporters and journalists actually reported facts and didn't have as much of an agenda, and fans weren't as quick to jump ship on these players back then.  This has created an environment of more impatience, more reactionary firings, and change for the sake of change.  

Despite having 3rd and 4th string OL, the WORST coaching to player strengths and play-calling I have ever witnessed, and the dumbest decision of all time to draft Jalen Hurts in the 2nd round right after you pay the franchise guy........everyone seems like they're ready to jump ship for Jalen Hurts, a guy that doesn't even have the physical arm ability to be a good QB in this league.    

23 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

new Surtain vid

 

I just don't know about a CB in the first round nowadays

I could see refs throwing flags on some of those plays in the video

There are plenty of examples of QBs having down seasons and never getting benched and bouncing back next year.  

 

1 minute ago, phil77 said:

 

Yes but they didn't play there best players?  We are getting most of this because we switched QBs not because of effort.  If Big Ben played the Dolphins would be in the playoffs.

True but, sitting your star QB so he doesn't get hurt going into the playoffs is a lot more reasonable then benching your back up for your 3rd string QB late in the game. 

Not saying I give a rats ass about what the eagles did and didn't want them to win just saying what the Steelers did was a normal move for a team in that position. I'm sure the dolphins were disappointed but, knew the circumstances. 

35 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Huh?

It looks like Joe has been hittin the Monday night sauce.  

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I just don't know about a CB in the first round nowadays

I could see refs throwing flags on some of those plays in the video

when you look at this years pro-bowl rosters, all but 2 CBs were drafted in the 1st round. The two who werent were drafted in the 2nd round. Its a position that pays to draft early. 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Lol

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

My 2 cents on tanking (in general) for when the time comes to do so:

Trade all the vets for picks you want to acquire assets at the cost of making your current team worse.

Shed all the salary you want that makes your current team worse.

Deactivate your starters for the most comically non existent injuries.

But play to win the game with whatever guys are left that you do dress.  
 

They eagles didn’t do that last part Sunday night.  Do I really care or am I outraged?  Not at all.  But, JMO, that’s where I personally would draw the line with tanking.  

Jalen Hurts was bad.   So, he got pulled and they put in Sudfeld.  Sudfeld was worse.   oh well.   

7 for 20, 72 yards and 1 INT.   His last play of the game was putrid.  TD was there for him if he had the arm to get it there.  Yes, off balance, moving to his left... but Watkins was wide open, a mere 20ish yards away, and he couldn't get the ball even close to him.   Then they pulled him.  la dee dah.  

4 minutes ago, hputenis said:

Correct.  I believe it's because those specific teams realized that they had elite talents at QB on their hands, and they weren't going to let 1 bad season derail their long-term plans.  I barely remember those guys having bad seasons.  Big Ben was the product of an incredible defense early in his career, and this also helped his cause.  There also wasn't any social media presence for morons to post opinions, reporters and journalists actually reported facts and didn't have as much of an agenda, and fans weren't as quick to jump ship on these players back then.  This has created an environment of more impatience, more reactionary firings, and change for the sake of change.  

Despite having 3rd and 4th string OL, the WORST coaching to player strengths and play-calling I have ever witnessed, and the dumbest decision of all time to draft Jalen Hurts in the 2nd round right after you pay the franchise guy........everyone seems like they're ready to jump ship for Jalen Hurts, a guy that doesn't even have the physical arm ability to be a good QB in this league.    

I read an article about this. They also held onto the coaches to make sure they had stability.

I wish all the players and coaches who are so upset by this would have cared this much 3 months ago.

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Cause the Steelers played hard throughout. Frankly people should be more pissed off at the jags routinely tanking every week. Literally before they lost to the bears week 16 they still could lose Lawrence. They were annihilated by the bears. Rested some guys and really just gave up in the second quarter. Meanwhile yesterday when they had nothing to lose anymore were in the game with the colts until the late 4th quarter 

The Eagles played hard throughout.    You think Sudfeld didn't want to perform well?   He's about to go to free agency, it was in his best interest to play well.   He's just not good.

 

Much ado about nothing quite honestly.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Two defensive players were held back from getting to doug. Probably wasn’t McGill cause he would’ve gotten there too soon 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

The Eagles played hard throughout.    You think Sudfeld didn't want to perform well?   He's about to go to free agency, it was in his best interest to play well.   He's just not good.

 

Much ado about nothing quite honestly.

I’m just telling you what they are saying. I don’t care i think it’s idiotic. Teams do this all the time especially when their QB is completing 35% of his passes and in quarters 1 and 3 was just 2-15 and had 10 rushing yards. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Two defensive players were held back from getting to doug. Probably wasn’t McGill cause he would’ve gotten there too soon 

Lol

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

They’ll give you the excuse well they were resting him for bigger things ahead. It’s another reason I’d have started sudfeld from the start. Could have said didn’t want to get wentz or hurts hurt in the last game of the season and have it be major and go into 2021 season. 

Could have, but didn't.   They got Hurts some reps, then got him out before his confidence took any more hits (or his body).   Frankly, he was bad as a passer... but very good as a runner.   Hurts did nothing in the game from a passing standpoint to warrant any criticism from anyone for him being pulled.   35% comp pct.  less than 4 yards per attempt and an INT.  Yes, Sudfeld was worse.  Oh well, them's the breaks sometimes.   

F Joe Judge.  What a drama queen!!

The Eagles did play hard especially on defense.  Only thing they really did was put Sunburg in at QB.  Not like guys were out there jogging and going half speed.

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Click bait.  His actual story says two defensive players had to be held back from "approaching the coach”

The Philly media really is low-grade stuff

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Probably players that had an incentive in their contract for a stat or playing time. 

Kelce is 100% retiring huh

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Or probably a lie.  

That too

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Great story Jeff.   Two defensive players had to be restrained?   Ok... which two?   Kelce and an offensive player?   Which one?   

 

This is half a story without names attached to these PUBLIC displays.   

12 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I used to like McLane. But it feels like he’s had an agenda towards Howie and Doug for awhile. Has he just always been like this or is this new? 

Sanders just got into the ProBowl lol