1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

The fact that so many of the "hot name" coaches wanted no part of this mess made this whole thing infuriating from the jump.

People can like/not like whatever hire they want, that's their choice. But for me, I'm sorry, I'm not going to even pretend to remotely be ok with this for all the obvious reasons. That a SB winning coach was fired to get here, and only fired because they tried to dictate to him what his own coaching staff should be.

That Lurie didn't fire the man responsible for destroying this roster and give Doug the talent he needed to succeed at a higher level.

That this organization was universally viewed as one of the least attractive destinations so as fans we had to accept before the process even began that "we aren't getting any of the top names." I'm sorry, but F that. That should piss people off. How far we've fallen in only a few short years that we have to Fing settle on a coach. We are the Philadelphia Eagles, not the Fing New York Jets who've won jack crap in ages. But we're here because the guys at the top are Fing clueless, and I was looking for just a morsel of hope. Something to give me something to feel good about going forward. I got none of that.

I mean, I already expected this team to suck for at least 3 years, I've said that numerous times, but I was at least hoping for something small to hang onto to give hope for the welfare of our future. Didn't even get that. Maybe that's my fault for expecting that much. Anyway, it's so exhausting rooting for something you know is probably gonna suck next season and the current season isn't even over yet.

There’s really only one point you made I don’t see eye to eye on. While I do agree a HC should have autonomy over his staff, if the coach is clearly taking that staff in a very bad direction, then the HC should be let go. I hate the idea of Howie and Lurie stepping in, even if they’re right, but if Doug can’t put together a competent staff, then he ultimately is going to be part of the reason why this team sucks so bad since there is also no player development going on. 
 

Just FTR, none of this is intended to defend or shield Howie. I said a long time ago, he needs to be fired with extreme prejudice. 

20 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

All of this toxic stuff said about Lurie stems from Critical Race Theory. Not to get too sociopolitical here, but it's becoming more and more pervasive in institutions today. It's a very radical belief system that focuses on core basic principles that only two people in the world exist: oppressors and the oppressed. You have to fall under one or the other. It also teaches that any inequity, anywhere, regardless of reason or context is due to racism. And if you try to argue against this, that itself is proof of your racism. At its core, it's a Marxist belief system that pushes for redistribution in all forms of society, and pushes for forced quotas based purely on skin color.

The scary part is it's being pushed in schools, being taught to kids, and even the government is adopting some of these training sessions and is spreading like wildfire on social media. It's toxic toxic stuff, and the outrage is where this all stems from.

I identify as liberal. I once took Pew's politics test and I scored as liberal as possible.

That said, there is no greater threat to liberalism than critical race theory (CRT) and its bastid (sic) step-child, wokeism. CRT is anti empirical, anti reason, and anti historical.

I do take exception with your Marxism comment. Some of the most ardent critics of CRT are Marxists. They object to replacing class dynamics with race dynamics.

25 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Someone really needs to tweet Trotter and tell the eagles hired a minority DC in Juan Castillo. Who was also replaced by Todd Bowles as interim. Unless we only refer to one minority as minority candidates now. 

Considering they don't acknowledge Robert Saleh as a minority candidate you are correct.

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

That's not a play calling problem, that's not using your personnel properly problem.

It's both.  If that play is on the call sheet and Ward is the one it is dialed up for, then that's a bad play call, because its using the wrong personnel.  A good play call is only good if you have the personnel to run it.   If they ran the Philly Special with a guy who couldn't throw the ball at all instead of Burton, then its a bad play call, because you don't call a play that the personnel can't execute.

Lurie is free to hire who he wants, f Twitter scum.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Considering they don't acknowledge Robert Saleh as a minority candidate you are correct.

Trotter doesnt care about "minority" hires. He flat out said "Black" hes a racist and therefore ignored by me. All lives matter.  LOL

9 minutes ago, hputenis said:

Someone should tweet him Eric Bienemy's past.  I don't care about the "2nd chance" crap.  Some of this is downright creepy.  

"As a player at Colorado, Bieniemy was arrested along with a teammate following a February 1988 bar fight.^[11] He pleaded no contest to disorderly conduct and fighting in public, and was sentenced to community service.^[11] He also received discipline from head coach Bill McCartney.^[11]

On July 4, 1990, Bieniemy pleaded no contest to interfering with a firefighter who had been performing his duties to extinguish a fire in Bieniemy's mother's garage.^[12] Bieniemy received an eight-month suspended sentence^[13] and was suspended for one game.^[14] Bieniemy was instructed to do 40 hours of community service and attend an eight-hour firefighting training session.^[12] An assistant city attorney said Bieniemy failed to attend the firefighting training session as stipulated in the plea agreement, but Bieniemy asserted the session was optional.^[12]

In 1989, Bieniemy was ticketed in Westminster for driving a defective vehicle, and in Aurora for speeding. In October 1990, Bieniemy's license was suspended for a year after another traffic violation. On March 21, 1991, Bieniemy was caught speeding and driving with suspended license on I-70 near Rifle, Colorado, going 92 mph in a 65 mph zone. On April 17, 1991, Bieniemy failed to appear in court on April 17, 1991, and a bench warrant was issued in Colorado for his arrest two days after being drafted in the 1991 NFL Draft on April 23.^[12]

On September 27, 1993, Bieniemy was arrested in Boulder, Colorado, for allegedly harassing a female parking attendant. According to the police report, while with his friends, Bieniemy put his hand on the attendant's neck, startling her. She told police he also made a comment about "a bunch of black males all at once being her worst nightmare,"^[13] and that Bieniemy and his friends took off their pants and began urinating nearby. Bieniemy was also named in an outstanding warrant on a charge of driving with a suspended license. As a result of this incident, Bieniemy was banned from the University of Colorado Boulder campus for one year.^[6][15]

In April 2001, Bieniemy was arrested for driving under the influence and was docked a month's pay.^[16]"

IMO none of that stuff should stop him from being a HC 

9 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Considering they don't acknowledge Robert Saleh as a minority candidate you are correct.

When was he last time there was a Muslim HC in the league (besides him being Lebanese American)?

A few quick thoughts now that I have time to type them out. 

* Sirianni was a guy who has been on radars for a bit, but it seemed maybe a year or two ahead of when he’d be the hot name. RLC is right about him being an up and comer and I have zero doubt he knew about him before this week, contrary to what 4 For 4 says. Many of us follow the rest of the NFL pretty closely. I thought he might have been on the list until I saw the report about the Eagles wanting to fire Reich after 2016 and seeing how Doug was treated by Lowie. 

* Just because he wasn’t interviewed first or in the initial wave doesn’t mean he’s a panic or desperation hire. I believe the Eagles missed on their initial top target or two, but it seems like Sirianni blew them away in the interview after being a late entry. I consider that a good thing. It’s not like there are reports of multiple people turning down offers. They met with a lot of folks so he must have really shown something.

* McDaniels had disaster written all over him. Him and Howie never would have worked.

* Let’s be honest, no one in here has a damn clue about what kind of coach or what kind of hire this will be. Look no further than 2016. 

 

Why does it seem Emmanuel Acho is so full of anger and hate?

As far as Sirianni and Wentz. Sirianni has worked with numerous QBs, different styles, different levels of talent and experience.

In KC, Cassel, in SD Rivers, as WR coach in 2016 turned UDFA Tyrell Williams into a 1000 yard WR. Got a career year, 810 yards out of Inman, another UDFA. 2017 Keenan Allen had his career year and made his first pro bowl.

In Indy, worked with Luck, Brisset and Rivers at QB.

I think they want him to try and salvage Wentz, but he should have no problem working with Hurts as well.

Just as important, he's the right guy to try and get production out of a group of young, athletic but raw WRs and H-backs.

 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

A few quick thoughts now that I have time to type them out. 

* Sirianni was a guy who has been on radars for a bit, but it seemed maybe a year or two ahead of when he’d be the hot name. RLC is right about him being an up and comer and I have zero doubt he knew about him before this week, contrary to what 4 For 4 says. Many of us follow the rest of the NFL pretty closely. I thought he might have been on the list until I saw the report about the Eagles wanting to fire Reich after 2016 and seeing how Doug was treated by Lowie. 

* Just because he wasn’t interviewed first or in the initial wave doesn’t mean he’s a panic or desperation hire. I believe the Eagles missed on their initial top target or two, but it seems like Sirianni blew them away in the interview after being a late entry. I consider that a good thing. It’s not like there are reports of multiple people turning down offers. They met with a lot of folks so he must have really shown something.

* McDaniels had disaster written all over him. Him and Howie never would have worked.

* Let’s be honest, no one in here has a damn clue about what kind of coach or what kind of hire this will be. Look no further than 2016. 

 

I am dramatically more optimistic with this hire than I would have been with McDaniels, not because of how I feel about Sirianni, though he has an interesting backstory, but due to my feelings on McDaniels.   

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

A few quick thoughts now that I have time to type them out. 

* Sirianni was a guy who has been on radars for a bit, but it seemed maybe a year or two ahead of when he’d be the hot name. RLC is right about him being an up and comer and I have zero doubt he knew about him before this week, contrary to what 4 For 4 says. Many of us follow the rest of the NFL pretty closely. I thought he might have been on the list until I saw the report about the Eagles wanting to fire Reich after 2016 and seeing how Doug was treated by Lowie. 

* Just because he wasn’t interviewed first or in the initial wave doesn’t mean he’s a panic or desperation hire. I believe the Eagles missed on their initial top target or two, but it seems like Sirianni blew them away in the interview after being a late entry. I consider that a good thing. It’s not like there are reports of multiple people turning down offers. They met with a lot of folks so he must have really shown something.

* McDaniels had disaster written all over him. Him and Howie never would have worked.

* Let’s be honest, no one in here has a damn clue about what kind of coach or what kind of hire this will be. Look no further than 2016. 

 

I know the athletic had sirianni as one of their 40 under 40 article

shows you that you should always take the interview cause you never know. You miss 100 percent of the shots you don’t take. 

2 hours ago, Nivraga said:

1 down: I'm just wondering if it is possible for the Eagles to do anything without you finding a way to **** about it???? He had another option - he could have stayed in Indy. I mean, technically by your logic Frank Reich had no other options AND he was only offered the job after McDaniels backed out. And I suppose in your mind the only good hire would be the guy that everyone else wanted. Andy Reid was a good hire - this is just another reason you do a lot of interviews - find the guy that knocks your socks off instead of just hiring the guy that everyone says is going to be great and is "next in line".

 

 

Sorry we aren’t allowed to criticize a 4 win franchise that is the butt of most nfl jokes right now.  I guess in your mind they can do no wrong.

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

IMO none of that stuff should stop him from being a HC 

Great point Odubel.  This is a completely rational and reasonable explanation, and that's not even all of his rap sheet.  This is a high profile, CEO-like position for a multi-billion dollar organization.  Everything will be looked at, especially grabbing women by the neck and threatening them like a psychopath.  

16 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It's both.  If that play is on the call sheet and Ward is the one it is dialed up for, then that's a bad play call, because its using the wrong personnel.  A good play call is only good if you have the personnel to run it.   If they ran the Philly Special with a guy who couldn't throw the ball at all instead of Burton, then its a bad play call, because you don't call a play that the personnel can't execute.

You shouldn't even have a play in your playbook if your players can't execute it. And knowing the strengths and weaknesses of your players is coaching 101.

Though there are HCs who feel any player should be able to execute their plays, that's hubris, "my play is so clever it'll work with anyone."

Coaches put a book together each week, knowing the personnel who'll probably be available. They should drop the plays they know have little chance of success.

This is really a preparation issue, if you don't have DeSean, don't include plays where JJAW or Jeffrey run his routes.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

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you have some fun emoticons, though I have no idea what most of them mean.

 

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

You shouldn't even have a play in your playbook if your players can't execute it. And knowing the strengths and weaknesses of your players is coaching 101.

Though there are HCs who feel any player should be able to execute their plays, that's hubris, "my play is so clever it'll work with anyone."

Coaches put a book together each week, knowing the personnel who'll probably be available. They should drop the plays they know have little chance of success.

This is really a preparation issue, if you don't have DeSean, don't include plays where JJAW or Jeffrey run his routes.

I'm pretty sure thats what I was implying... but ok.    Maybe it is in the playbook, but it shouldn't be in the game plan.

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

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He’s a hack.  What’s he crying about now?

That they hired Siri because he can be a puppet.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I am dramatically more optimistic with this hire than I would have been with McDaniels, not because of how I feel about Sirianni, though he has an interesting backstory, but due to my feelings on McDaniels.   

I’m with you 100%.  that’s how i feel

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

 

Get your Kyle Pitts jerseys ready boys.  

Good to know that my enjoyment of seeing 12 personnel with Greg Ward also on the field may live on for another year, or 5.   

39 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Sometimes I wish every HC, OC, DC, all position coaches were black.  I'm tired of hearing about it myself.  I'd like to see more get opportunities but what can you do.  The owners are going to hire who they know and feel comfortable with. 

Some of these HC's should start being more vocal about their staffs and promote them.  Some do already.  Just as an example, maybe Bruce Arians can take a few seconds during an interview and say Byron Leftwich deserves to be a HC.  Give some of these guys that we dont know about a little promotion or advertising. 

BTW, not saying Leftwich should be a HC right now.  Just using those 2 as an example.

So you think the guy is going to volunteer to destroy his staff? 

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Get your Kyle Pitts jerseys ready boys.  

Pitts was 3rd on the list behind Devonta Smith in the article. So I think you mean get your Smith jersey's ordered.