11 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Seumalo, herbig, both have taken snaps at center.

Seumalo in games Herbig in practice

 

Luke Juriga if i'm not mistaken filled in for kelce this season for 2 plays when he got alittle nicked

2 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

No.  He came back that year and played well.   I know this because I would make fun of all the Steeler fans who said they were done with him when he got in trouble with the helmet deal.  Only to show their true colors a few weeks later.  

It was his "other" helmet issue that got him in trouble...

Herbig barely figured out being a guard.  Some of the calls for the OC (and the mobility the Eagles like from their center)...that's only going to come from Seumalo.

So now we need a new LG.  Herbig figures to be the RG by midseason.  

My prediction for the starting OL by the end of the year: Mailata/rookie draft pick/Seumalo/Herbig/Dillard.  Yes, Dillard at RT.  I never said it's how I'd do it.  Assuming Mailata stays healthy.  Otherwise you can plug Dillard into LT and Pryor at RT.

Tweet of the month. Easily 

 

I don't know what to say, despicable. Especially after the pitiful losses brought about by Doug's pitiful play calling all season long. Was he tanking then too? Or did he just let Carson do it for him?

No doubt it's mainly because of Doug we got here. But then for the eagles to announce he's staying before the game -like a deal was reached, and then to watch him ....just tank it; a big fu; not just to the players who fought hard, but sports in general. If Doug stays, I expect some players to want to leave.

From the standpoint of the value of the team's name, fans, and image, this is the worst thing the Eagles have ever done. The team literally lost millions of dollars in value Sunday night. Dumb.

I’m sure there are a lot of Eagles fans who would like it if this were the first question Lurie asked in both his meetings with Doug and Howie:

 

3 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

Must have been the secret sideline, that has a giant press box shield

3 hours ago, Dwide Schrude said:

I used to like McLane. But it feels like he’s had an agenda towards Howie and Doug for awhile. Has he just always been like this or is this new? 

It all goes back 4 or so years ago. McLane wrote something negative about the Eagles and the Eagles used some dumb excuse to physically remove him from the press box during the game. 

Did anyone else see that Kelce was apparently still on the sideline with the VP of Security until gone midnight on Sunday? He's going to retire isn't he! And I don't blame him but that's really going to hurt us.

13 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Did anyone else see that Kelce was apparently still on the sideline with the VP of Security until gone midnight on Sunday? He's going to retire isn't he! And I don't blame him but that's really going to hurt us.

It was him, Ertz and Wentz. 

11 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Did anyone else see that Kelce was apparently still on the sideline with the VP of Security until gone midnight on Sunday? He's going to retire isn't he! And I don't blame him but that's really going to hurt us.

Yeah — people forget the human side of these guys.  When it’s Kelce, Ertz, and Wentz spending a lot of time talking together you can make a guess what the tone of the conversation is.  Ertz has bad feelings toward the organization right now.  Wentz likely has bad feelings toward the organization right now.  Not likely Kelce is taking an opposing view; more likely commiserating 

13 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Did anyone else see that Kelce was apparently still on the sideline with the VP of Security until gone midnight on Sunday? He's going to retire isn't he! And I don't blame him but that's really going to hurt us.

I think he’s retiring. But I also took that moment with Ertz/Wentz as those three knowing it’d be last time all of em would be together at the Linc again, so they were just sharing a moment together. 

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Yeah — people forget the human side of these guys.  When it’s Kelce, Ertz, and Wentz spending a lot of time talking together you can make a guess what the tone of the conversation is.  Ertz has bad feelings toward the organization right now.  Wentz likely has bad feelings toward the organization right now.  Not likely Kelce is taking an opposing view; more likely commiserating 

I don’t think Ertz has bad feelings towards the organization. He seemed in his PC today like he was extremely sad he’s likely leaving Philly, and made a point to say he doesn’t want to go. 
 

I don’t know how much they’d badmouth Eagles organization either with VP of security there. Not sure how that dynamic works within the team, but just a thought

3 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

I think he’s retiring. But I also took that moment with Ertz/Wentz as those three knowing it’d be last time all of em would be together at the Linc again, so they were just sharing a moment together. 

Oh yeah I definitely took it that way too and of course Ertz is very likely gone and Wentz may be traded but I do think Kelce retires. 

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Oh yeah I definitely took it that way too and of course Ertz is very likely gone and Wentz may be traded but I do think Kelce retires. 

Ertz is for sure gone, Kelce is second likeliest. I don’t see from Kelce’s perspective the benefit of one more year. Wentz staying or going is the number 1 storyline for us this offseason. I’m having a very difficult time speculating on what will happen with him. Howie & Doug sound committed to him, but ESPN is saying Wentz wants out. Don’t know which side to believe. 
 

Not ruling out a possibility of Dillard being traded either, but with Bengals & Dolphins picking ahead of us no way Sewell would fall to Philly. So that’s very unlikely, but still possible.

2 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Ertz is for sure gone, Kelce is second likeliest. I don’t see from Kelce’s perspective the benefit of one more year. Wentz staying or going is the number 1 storyline for us this offseason. I’m having a very difficult time speculating on what will happen with him. Howie & Doug sound committed to him, but ESPN is saying Wentz wants out. Don’t know which side to believe. 

Yeah I agree on Kelce. I believe he's got a young family? He's got other interests away from football and he's contemplated retirement for the last couple of years. If he's honest with himself there's really no benefit in coming back to play for a bad team who aren't going to contend. And he's probably rather angry with Doug and his actions during the game against WFT... Only a couple of weeks ago he said about how you always play to win in the NFL and that bad organisations find a habit of losing. And then Doug pulls the ish?

6 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah I agree on Kelce. I believe he's got a young family? He's got other interests away from football and he's contemplated retirement for the last couple of years. If he's honest with himself there's really no benefit in coming back to play for a bad team who aren't going to contend. And he's probably rather angry with Doug and his actions during the game against WFT... Only a couple of weeks ago he said about how you always play to win in the NFL and that bad organisations find a habit of losing. And then Doug pulls the ish?

Have no idea what his feelings are, but I can’t imagine it’s good.  I honestly was surprised he didn’t retire last offseason. I don’t think Doug decided to tank, I think he was ordered too. If anything they should be more upset at the higher ups for this. 

1 hour ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Have no idea what his feelings are, but I can’t imagine it’s good.  I honestly was surprised he didn’t retire last offseason. I don’t think Doug decided to tank, I think he was ordered too. If anything they should be more upset at the higher ups for this. 

This is likely right, although this isn't the first time that FO/Doug switched an QB after another one was ineffective.  Everyone cheered Carson being benched in an effort to "save the season".  What's the difference, except the backlash?  On this board, there are too many hypocrites and they can't even see it.

3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Must have been the secret sideline, that has a giant press box shield

Yeah, players had to be held back and yet not one story has mentioned it except for this one. Totally, 100% happened. God the eagles beat writers are all Fing terrible.

5 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Herbig barely figured out being a guard.  Some of the calls for the OC (and the mobility the Eagles like from their center)...that's only going to come from Seumalo.

So now we need a new LG.  Herbig figures to be the RG by midseason.  

My prediction for the starting OL by the end of the year: Mailata/rookie draft pick/Seumalo/Herbig/Dillard.  Yes, Dillard at RT.  I never said it's how I'd do it.  Assuming Mailata stays healthy.  Otherwise you can plug Dillard into LT and Pryor at RT.

What about leaving Seumalo at LG and getting a new centre?

Just now, bbabraham said:

What about leaving Seumalo at LG and getting a new centre?

I certainly think that should be the way they go. I think Seumalo has been pretty good at LG whereas he struggled at C earlier in his career. I think they should bring in a mid round C. But I guess there's lots of ways they could go with this. 

Knee replacement day.

If you don't hear from me again you'll know i picked a bad doctor.

Polarizing times.

Hard to envision the long-term plan here, other than a reboot through the draft ( nicely positioned ) and a shedding of aging players/contracts.

Lurie and Doug reported to be meeting today, wonder what's on the agenda?.....

1 hour ago, devpool said:

Yeah, players had to be held back and yet not one story has mentioned it except for this one. Totally, 100% happened. God the eagles beat writers are all Fing terrible.

What's terrible is that people still believe that BS and pass it around like they personally know it's absolutely true.

This owner is absolutely delusional and it’s sad that he has allowed himself to be duped by clowns.  Trying to justify they decision making and results over the last three years by lumping everything in with 2017 is a joke.  Is he really this dumb?  They are the 19th most successful team in the 3 years following an SB win.  Few super bowl winners have fallen off so quickly.

Theyve been the worst drafting team in the NFL since 2014.  The decision making on personnel has been a failure.  The roster has very little young talent.  The cap is a disaster.  The future looks worse than the present.  The GM has failed in every conceivable way, and you sit back and let him spew complete BS and tell everyone how successful they are?  It’s a clown show.  It should be embarrassing.  This owner needs to wake up.  This is the guy that’s going to fix everything?  

https://theathletic.com/2301422/2021/01/04/howie-roseman-philadelphia-eagles-2020-season/

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One day after an embarrassing end to an embarrassing Eagles season, Howie Roseman faced the virtual music.

"The fact that we are where we are now, and we’re 4-11-1, to not sit there and review everything we’ve done and see if there’s a better way to do it, that would probably be ignorant. So, we have to do that,” Roseman said. "But by the same time, we have also been incredibly successful. Just because you have one bad moment doesn’t mean you’re not good at your jobs or you don’t have a good process. It happens in this business. Extremely humbling business. And we have to rebound from it, and we have to do better, and it starts with me.”

It was unclear if the "one bad moment” referred to the decision to draft Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson or the choice to use a second-round pick to concoct a quarterback controversy out of thin air. It could have been in reference to the selection of J.J. Arcega-Whiteside or the trade-up for Andre Dillard or the second-round bet on an injured Sidney Jones. Maybe the bad moment was when the Eagles guaranteed Alshon Jeffery’s 2020 contract or expected a 33-year-old DeSean Jackson to solve their lack of speed. It’s possible Roseman could be alluding to a moment not seized upon, like when they passed on acquiring DeAndre Hopkins or Stefon Diggs.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/eagles-should-stop-gaslighting-us-about-2018-and-2019-seasons-05888

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Certainly, bringing the Lombardi Trophy to Philadelphia for the first time in team history was kind of a big deal. However, lumping the slightly better than ordinary 2018 and 2019 seasons in with it is creating a perception that the team has had some sort of impressive three-year run, as opposed to something closer to a one-off "lightning in a bottle" season in 2017.

"When I look at the rosters in 2017, 2018, and 2019, I think objectively those are really good rosters," Roseman said, when asked about the lack of young talent on the roster. "Obviously 2017 had a lot of success. 2018, 15 yards from the Championship Game, and I know when Joe [Douglas] left to become the GM of the Jets, he even felt like our roster last year was as good as those two rosters, maybe even better."

The reality is that the 2018 and 2019 Eagles were just OK.

• In 2018, at varying points, the Eagles were 3-4, 4-6, and 6-7. A three-game winning streak to close the season earned the team a playoff berth, which was only made possible because the Vikings lost to a Bears team with nothing to play for, and the Eagles backdoored their way into the 6 seed. They beat a Mitchell Trubisky-led Chicago team in the first round, and then lost to the Saints. 

As for being "15 yards from the Championship Game," that of course assumes the Eagles would have scored had Alshon Jeffery not had a ball go through his hands and into the waiting arms of Marshon Lattimore. Also, it was more like 27 yards, and the Eagles still had plenty of work to do even if Jeffery had caught that pass. Also also, it ignores the possibility of the Saints kicking a field goal on their ensuing possession for the win even if the Eagles had scored.

Assuming the Eagles would have won that game if Jeffery caught that pass is like the belief that the Sixers would have beaten the Raptors in OT, and then the Bucks, and then the Warriors, if Kawhi Leonard's quadruple doink hadn't fallen through. But Jeffery did drop the pass, as he was prone to do that season, because the Eagles didn't have very good receivers.

• In 2019, the Eagles were sitting at 5-7, before feasting on the dreck in their division for four games to close the season once again at 9-7. The rest of the teams in the division had a combined record of 15-33. If they played in any other division in the NFC, based on their record, they would not have made the playoffs.

The difference between the 2017 season and the 2018-2019 seasons, in chart form (and we'll throw in 2020 too, because why not):

Eagles	2017	2018	2019	2020
Record (including playoffs)	16-3	10-8	9-8	4-11-1
Point differential	+162	+19	+31	-84
DVOA	5th	16th	11th	28th

Borrowing 16 games from the Super Bowl season to be able to say "35 wins those three years" is just a recent peeve of mine, I suppose.