4 minutes ago, RLC said:

The problem isn't losing.

The problem isn't telling the players that they're treating it like a pre-season game. 

True.  Keep in mind Doug never actually told Wentz he was getting replaced either — he just continued calling plays for Hurts and hoped Wentz would go take his helmet off.

Doug is not a great leader of men, and being likeable doesn’t get you anywhere when the sharks start coming for some flesh 

3 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

Doug needs to go and it has nothing to do with the last game. There is a lack of discipline in the locker room. Players should  be keeping this in house. Also, all the poor coaching decisions, use of personnel and down and distance playcalls, etc.  But, Howie needs to go, too. But, Lurie has already tipped his hand by having Doug and Howie doing that joint press conference. That means they are coming back.

Agreed. Sanders and now Wallace speaking out about it isn't a good look even if Hurts played like crap

It was the right move to bench Hurts but Sudfeld sucked even more and it was easily to tell Eagles were tanking as every other team has done for the past many decades

This on top of the Alshon crap we've been dealing with for over a year now is another reason Howie and Doug should be fired

7 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Your job — which isn’t a sure thing for next season, ATM .....

I liked the K’Von Wallace pick, but .... hmmm, shutting up might be a prudent course of action, KMasterLock?

It’s immaturity. He’s from Clemson and not used to losing. He’ll get plenty experience next year 

2 minutes ago, Br3 said:

No doubt they’ll have motivation, but it’s the 10-loss Giants — so shouldn’t it be a picture of Wimpy from the Popeye cartoon?

2 hours ago, Bacarty2 said:

Say it again. stop being lazy go on twitter. turn on local philly sports. google it as theres multiply stories out. 

This isnt a fringe, my brother in law heard from his aunt, who works with a hooker type ****. 

It's good etiquette to post a link to something that you're referring to, where possible. If you didn't know then it's no biggie, just try to do so going forward.

Also think of it from this perspective - does it make sense for dozens of people to individually go and search for something or for you to post it once and everyone benefits? If you approached posting in here from the perspective of what's good for the blog and the community in here rather than what's good for me, it would be a no brainer.

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

lol splitting hairs with "no one liked it" and pissed off"

Got it, you win bud 

You don't see that there's a wide gap between those.... but, to cycle back... this goes back to your initial assertion that it has been confirmed that "players had to be restrained from going at Pederson".   And Miles has made absolutely NO MENTION of that at all.   So, yeah, I would say that I win.   You don't even know what you are arguing or trying to defend.

 

 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Weak and Lame.  I would be embarrassed for my team if they were pissed at not making the playoffs with a 6-10 record.  

It took those clowns like 6 years to beat us and  reading from their message board they are hoping to injure our qb next year and "run up the score” 

lol 

2 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Right now, my ‘too-early-to-guess’ guess on what will happen before the Eagles pick at #6:

#1 JAX — Lawrence

#2 NYJ — Fields.  Joe Douglas didn’t draft Darnold, so I think they trade him pre-draft.  The Jets fan base is pissed they missed out on Lawrence; I think they need to save face by drafting the next available option at QB

#3 MIA — I think they try to trade out, but if no one wants to trade into the spot I believe they draft Sewell.  Same rationale that Eagles fans use for drafting Sewell — you draft BPA and move pieces along the OL to fit

#4 ATL — Parsons.  Horrid defense, they need the best available defensive player.

#5 CIN — either Chase or trade back with a team needing a QB 

I actually think atlanta depending on what they do with Ryan goes QB or corner. They deal Ryan it’s going to be a QB. If they keep him their secondary is god awful. Like almost as bad as Dallas. I’m guessing they go surtain in that spot if it’s not QB.

cincy is a wild card if Sewell is not there. They really need OL, DL help and would also say corner. Likely none at 5 and WR would likely be BPA. I kind of think they want to trade back or trade up with Miami to get Sewell 

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

True.  Keep in mind Doug never actually told Wentz he was getting replaced either — he just continued calling plays for Hurts and hoped Wentz would go take his helmet off.

Doug is not a great leader of men, and being likeable doesn’t get you anywhere when the sharks start coming for some flesh 

I disagree with this. I do think he's a good leader of men. The problem is that he also relies on veterans to police the locker room. Hard to do that when one of your leaders (Wentz) is not liked by the rest of the team.

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

Yes, theres a ton of insiders on twitter saying 2 needed to be held back and Kelce and another linemen made stoutland go over because they were extremely upset(not pissed off lol) 

You still have a chance to back this up... or back to ignore you go.    Your call, 'bud'. 

I read the McLane article, and I took it for what it was.  

15 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

More drama 

Someone should ask wallace why it took him like 15-16 weeks to play meaningful snaps. Maybe less time on social media and more time learning what he was supposed to be doing. And as a FYI he has played poorly when given chances so he didn’t need to tank to help us lose 

2 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Right now, my ‘too-early-to-guess’ guess on what will happen before the Eagles pick at #6:

 

#2 NYJ — Fields.  Joe Douglas didn’t draft Darnold, so I think they trade him pre-draft.  The Jets fan base is pissed they missed out on Lawrence; I think they need to save face by drafting the next available option at QB

 

Fields could surprise a lot of people.  Not a bad 2nd choice imo.  Lawrence is a special talent but Fields seems like he could really become a player as well, imo. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I actually think atlanta depending on what they do with Ryan goes QB or corner. They deal Ryan it’s going to be a QB. If they keep him their secondary is god awful. Like almost as bad as Dallas. I’m guessing they go surtain in that spot if it’s not QB.

cincy is a wild card if Sewell is not there. They really need OL, DL help and would also say corner. Likely none at 5 and WR would likely be BPA. I kind of think they want to trade back or trade up with Miami to get Sewell 

I think the Falcons could draft QB, but they’re stuck with Matty Ice for at least one more season IMO — nobody should be helping them get out of that $41M dead cap hit by agreeing to trade with them after June 1.

Just now, RLC said:

I disagree with this. I do think he's a good leader of men. The problem is that he also relies on veterans to police the locker room. Hard to do that when one of your leaders (Wentz) is not liked by the rest of the team.

Wow.   I'm pretty sure I heard Fletcher Cox say he was his best friend on the team... but ok.  Run with this if you want.

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Agreed. Sanders and now Wallace speaking out about it isn't a good look even if Hurts played like crap

It was the right move to bench Hurts but Sudfeld sucked even more and it was easily to tell Eagles were tanking as every other team has done for the past many decades

This on top of the Alshon crap we've been dealing with for over a year now is another reason Howie and Doug should be fired

Something that isn't being discussed is that it appears more players are upset, or at least being vocal that Hurts got yanked after playing like trash than when Wentz got pulled.  Yea, we had the Fletcher Cox liked tweet but this is just weird.  

I 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Wow.   I'm pretty sure I heard Fletcher Cox say he was his best friend on the team... but ok.  Run with this if you want.

 

I think him and Zach Ertz might be close also :)...  Although Ertz sucked this year.  I just remembered Ertz scored the first TD of our season vs Washington and didn't score again.  Nice work getting that new contract

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

There is one insider that said about the "holding back".  The same insider who has had a very public and contentious relationship with the Eagles.  Again, being "held back" would suggest it was physical.  I can guarantee, that didn't happen.  Or there would be a video record of it.  You're the exact kind of mark that McLane is paid to fool.  

I said all I needed to say to him, with my response.  

On Twitter?

7 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Meh.  He would have played if the game mattered.  

 

He said what was quoted as being said.  He never said anything about players going after the coaches.  

Well at first, the whole story was bogus.  Now you have two players coming out saying they were unhappy.  There is the video of Hurts saying " that's not right " after he was pulled.

If you don't think that more is going to come out, you are kidding yourself.  Pederson needs to be clipped today, or this team will be an absolute disaster next year.

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Wow.   I'm pretty sure I heard Fletcher Cox say he was his best friend on the team... but ok.  Run with this if you want.

Yep, both Cox and BG have said they are on "team Wentz". 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I actually think atlanta depending on what they do with Ryan goes QB or corner. They deal Ryan it’s going to be a QB. If they keep him their secondary is god awful. Like almost as bad as Dallas. I’m guessing they go surtain in that spot if it’s not QB.

cincy is a wild card if Sewell is not there. They really need OL, DL help and would also say corner. Likely none at 5 and WR would likely be BPA. I kind of think they want to trade back or trade up with Miami to get Sewell 

I haven't watched a Falcons game in awhile. Just seen the scores and the leads being given up. They haven't been the same since that embarrassing SB loss and now are just expected to give up a lead and lose. Looking up the stats it seems like Ryan isn't the main the problem

https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-stats/

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Someone should ask wallace why it took him like 15-16 weeks to play meaningful snaps. Maybe less time on social media and more time learning what he was supposed to be doing. And as a FYI he has played poorly when given chances so he didn’t need to tank to help us lose 

Schwartz?

Hmm I dunno, Steve from Delco said Kelce was throwing haymakers and had to have the entire offensive line hold him back. He then had Doug in a rear naked choke while calling him a cracker 

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

You still have a chance to back this up... or back to ignore you go.    Your call, 'bud'. 

I read the McLane article, and I took it for what it was.  

See my post above.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Something that isn't being discussed is that it appears more players are upset, or at least being vocal that Hurts got yanked after playing like trash than when Wentz got pulled.  Yea, we had the Fletcher Cox liked tweet but this is just weird.  

In fairness two different situations. One had been playing poorly for weeks. Another really as only played poorly for that game and the second half against Dallas (to a lesser extent second halves against cardinals and Saints). 

Man McLane’s article this morning tore into Howie so bad.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Something that isn't being discussed is that it appears more players are upset, or at least being vocal that Hurts got yanked after playing like trash than when Wentz got pulled.  Yea, we had the Fletcher Cox liked tweet but this is just weird.  

I have no doubt that Eagles players are upset as well. They aren't fans that are looking forward to the future. They are playing for their jobs. We may get more players speaking out about it soon too. More reason for Howie and Doug to get fired