Weird takes by some people, probably spend too much time listening to WIP.

Lowie hired Chip, not exactly the choice of "control freaks."  They considered McDaniels, again, not exactly the ideal choice of control freaks.

Objectively Sirianni's resume is just as good as Smith, the "hot" commodity, and more suited to the Eagles (learned under Reich, worked with 3 different pocket QBs and his new OC worked with a rookie pocket QB). And he hired the "hot" DC candidate. So assuming he was chosen because he could be "controlled" is a bit silly, other than Meyers, what new hire isn't going to be "controlled?" Newly minted HCs don't have enough push to override their GMs.

Again, the idea you can't have both Wentz and Hurts is a media invention. Where are the rumors of teams trying to trade for Hurts to be their starting QB? Hurts is a backup for at least one more year, until he goes out in the 2022 exhibition season and blows people away with his command of the offense. He's not a NFL starting QB right now, neither are many of the 1st rd draft picks that are thrust into that role before they're ready. It's a big jump from a one read college RPO to a pro style offense where you quickly go through progressions.

Wentz is the starter, period. He'll get every chance to rebound with a QB friendly scheme and an improved OL and more weapons on offense.

We're not going to hear much about this until there are mini-camps, Sirianni first has to analyze what went wrong, then work with Wentz to fix it.

Wentz has every reason to work with Sirianni, his new HC is a mentor of the coach under whom he had his greatest success, and if he doesn't bounce back, his next contract will be at a backup's salary. What other team can offer him a better situation, from coaching to OL to skill players (after this draft).

7 minutes ago, RLC said:

When you see clips of Sirianni speaking to people 1 on 1, or teaching players on the field, he communicates fine. 

If anything, this makes me like him more. 

Was just going to post something similar to this.  I don't care how he talks to reporters, or me by extension as a fan watching.

I care about how he coaches and calls plays.  

By the end, Doug was an idiot coach and play caller, and then lied to me in press conferences that he was gonna fix problems we could all see.

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Weird takes by some people, probably spend too much time listening to WIP.

Lowie hired Chip, not exactly the choice of "control freaks."  They considered McDaniels, again, not exactly the ideal choice of control freaks.

Objectively Sirianni's resume is just as good as Smith, the "hot" commodity, and more suited to the Eagles (learned under Reich, worked with 3 different pocket QBs and his new OC worked with a rookie pocket QB). And he hired the "hot" DC candidate. So assuming he was chosen because he could be "controlled" is a bit silly, other than Meyers, what new hire isn't going to be "controlled?" Newly minted HCs don't have enough push to override their GMs.

Again, the idea you can't have both Wentz and Hurts is a media invention. Where are the rumors of teams trying to trade for Hurts to be their starting QB? Hurts is a backup for at least one more year, until he goes out in the 2022 exhibition season and blows people away with his command of the offense. He's not a NFL starting QB right now, neither are many of the 1st rd draft picks that are thrust into that role before they're ready. It's a big jump from a one read college RPO to a pro style offense where you quickly go through progressions.

Wentz is the starter, period. He'll get every chance to rebound with a QB friendly scheme and an improved OL and more weapons on offense.

We're not going to here much about this until there are mini-camps, Sirianni first has to analyze what went wrong, then work with Wentz to fix it.

Wentz has every reason to work with Sirianni, his new HC is a mentor of the coach under whom he had his greatest success, and if he doesn't bounce back, his next contract will be at a backup's salary. What other team can offer him a better situation, from coaching to OL to skill players (after this draft).

They fired a Super Bowl winning coach because he wanted to pick his own coaching staff and they didn't let him. Control freak debate over.

(and they didn't pick McDaniels. Wonder why)

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

That's not what happened with Chip at all.  They tried to appease Chip.  It didn't work with Chip because he was A) an a-hole and B) reluctant to adapt his offensive style to the pro game.  He had a gimmick offense.  I think it's a lazy stretch to say Riley won't work in the NFL because he's a college coach and Chip failed because he was a college coach.  If he wanted the job he would have been here.  Plain and simple.  

He would of been here and taken all of Howie’s power, just like Chip did. Yes if he wanted the job he would of been here.  Chip also failed for the reason most college guys do in the NFL, they put system over talent. 
 

Meyer doesn’t take the job in Jacksonville w/o certain authority over the roster, Pete Carroll has most of the power in Seattle.  One of Sabans admitted biggest mistakes was not forcing the issue with Brees, failed physical or not. 

25 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Don't think we'd know it unless it was reported

We'll see it on the field.  That's the pudding.

Has anyone heard for Wentz engaging a QB guru. He was successful with Adam Dedeaux at the start of his career. If just 1 aspect of his game could be corrected, like sailing passes because of bad mechanics, then there is a lot of possibility of him regaining his form in an offense designed to take advantage of his strengths. Do you think this is off the table because asking for it by the organization would be considered another slight? I would think it could be approached based on his injuries and that a post-injuries tune up would be very beneficial. Bringing this up not as a Wentz criticism but how the organization needs to support him to get back to an elite level. Without it, his efficiency doesn't look to be good enough to play at that level. Rewatched the Pats -- Rams superbowl recently and on the game winning OT drive, Brady shows the passing efficiency you need from your QB, in all ranges.

25 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I don’t really believe that was Doug’s call only. 

Doug couldn't keep his own OC... I can't believe he'd have the autonomy to bench the $100M QB.

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

How people forget Doug’s first presser where he came up with the lame excuse about why they took so long on a drive to not want to give Brady the ball back when they were down by two scores. 

Doug’s was the worst I’ve ever seen in the NFL. I honestly have never felt sorry for a coach in front of a podium like I felt for Doug that day. Remember that it was so bad that Lurie had to step in and say "He may not win the press conference but bla bla bla”. It was atrocious.

The guy won a Super Bowl 2 years later.

21 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

The Eagles barely blocked on returns after the LOS.  I think they analyzed returns and the likelihood of a return without it being called back plus loss of yardage for blocking penalties and concluded that 95% of the time the best result is less blocking and fair catches. I think they probably analyzed the percentages for letting the ball hit the turf outside the hash marks and also at a certain distance from the goal line.  Blame Howie and the analytics department because the Eagles average starting field position this year was atrocious.  

You must not have been following along... I've been beating that drum for a while.

21 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

I miss Torrey Smith.   This type of level-headed understanding is why that 2017 team was so great.  A bunch of veterans who 'got it', with some young guys sprinkled in.

21 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Didn't he say it was his decision though?

Didn't he also say it was his decision to fire Groh and Walch the day after he said they were coming back?

I think Lowie are periodic control freaks. They usually start by expressing a ton of faith in the HC's they hire, then, given enough time and decisions they don't like, they gradually revert to their control freakishness.

55 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

Replay of Nick Sirianni’s press conference

 

Man, I miss old cartoons.  One of my favorites. 

 

Doug's offense regressed for three years, his solution, keep the same coaches and make no substantive changes.

You don't think he was totally out of his league last year?

I think the only reason they interfered was they were reluctant to fire him, both because they liked him personally, and because of the SB win. So they tried an intervention.

I think in one sense Lowie are happy to have the SB behind them, makes it much easier to clean house with a new HC.

 

Dude was nervous, it happens. I'm not too worried about that. Happens to the best of us.

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Didn't he also say it was his decision to fire Groh and Walch the day after he said they were coming back?

Don't know what to believe from coaches and this FO anymore 🤷‍♂️

16 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Weird takes by some people, probably spend too much time listening to WIP.

Lowie hired Chip, not exactly the choice of "control freaks."  They considered McDaniels, again, not exactly the ideal choice of control freaks.

1 - things change with people after they achieve success... having won a Super Bowl, its possible that Lowie started to think it was all them, especially if they are ging to convince themselves that Pederson is a bumbling moron (pretty much what they are trying to sell to everyone).  

2 - they might have considered McDaniels, but they didn't hire him, did they?  Perhaps they felt that they couldn't get him to do what they wanted him to do, or didn't feel comfortable.

 

 

That said, I will remain optimistic about Sirianni until he proves I shouldn't.    Howie, on the other side, I have to hope he gets his brains back.  He's acted like a moron who won the lottery and ended up in worst debt after winning than he was before winning.

16 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

They fired a Super Bowl winning coach because he wanted to pick his own coaching staff and they didn't let him.

He was given the opportunity to show his vision and who his staff would be.  When the words " Press Taylor, offensive coordinator " came out of his mouth he sealed his own fate.

 

35 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

And I said OK we'll see, but I guarantee your first one didn't sound perfectly smooth. It's a skill he probably hasn't had a lot of exposure to. Doesn't mean you won't be right, but that doesn't translate to how he will be as a coach. Doesn't mean he lacks command, confidence, or direction. It means he's not a good public speaker in his first prepared statement.

Doesn't mean anything other than my first impression is not good

Just now, downundermike said:

He was given the opportunity to show his vision and who his staff would be.  When the words " Press Taylor, offensive coordinator " came out of his mouth he sealed his own fate.

I think Andrew Breiner as QB coach and Undlin as DC are somehow worse than Press Taylor.

1 minute ago, schuy7 said:

 

What is this Wife Swap?

He's not smart he stutters....meanwhile

 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

What is this Wife Swap?

Frank cleaning up everyone's mess.  Sent Nick to fix Carson while he fixes Press Taylor.  To bad Duce went to a situation that wont fix him.

 

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

How people forget Doug’s first presser where he came up with the lame excuse about why they took so long on a drive to not want to give Brady the ball back when they were down by two scores. 

So 1 super bowl win and then onto the next coach