2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

The backup QB who played the most snaps this year, and went 5-5, had a cap number of 3 million.  Got a guess who it was ??

Dalton. 

Again I still think that back up quarterback that cheap in the second round is a bunch of bull crap. It was a concoction they came up with because they knew people would buy it considering the fact take a look at their salary cap along with Carson‘s injury past and it would make sense. I think this comes down to they didn’t know what Carson Wentz they were going to get. They knew they had two years left with him on the contract that they sign so that was happening whether they would liked it or not. They didn’t expect Carson to be this bad but I think they were trying to get ahead of the curve to get a quarterback they liked in case they had to move on from Carson in two years. And with hurts it likely would take a couple years of grooming to get him to that point. 

2 minutes ago, Han Solo said:

It couldn't possibly be that these guys just want a break and don't check/post something on social media every minute.  I'd be more worried of players that are constantly posting crap.

I was totally being sarcastic

I also think if Carson didn’t say anything about Doug and then said something about Nick it sends the wrong message to people that he was happy that Doug got fired and Nick got hired

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

The backup QB who played the most snaps this year, and went 5-5, had a cap number of 3 million.  Got a guess who it was ??

Without looking and off the top of my head while drinking high ABV craft beers.....Dalton?

 

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

I’m surprised this didn’t gain more traction in here. 

Sacrificial lamb for the injury bug?

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I was totally being sarcastic

I also think if Carson didn’t say anything about Doug and then said something about Nick it sends the wrong message to people that he was happy that Doug got fired and Nick got hired

I knew you were.  I agree with you

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Dalton. 

Again I still think that back up quarterback that cheap in the second round is a bunch of bull crap. It was a concoction they came up with because they knew people would buy it considering the fact take a look at their salary cap along with Carson‘s injury past and it would make sense. I think this comes down to they didn’t know what Carson Wentz they were going to get. They knew they had two years left with him on the contract that they sign so that was happening whether they would liked it or not. They didn’t expect Carson to be this bad but I think they were trying to get ahead of the curve to get a quarterback they liked in case they had to move on from Carson in two years. And with hurts it likely would take a couple years of grooming to get him to that point. 

yea, that was the biggest bunch of hogwash ever.  Why in the world would you want your backup to be a rookie?  I much rather prefer a veteran who has played against NFL defenses, knows how to prepare and can come in cold knowing the situation.  Joe Flacco at $1 million would have been just fine with me.  Unstoppable Nate Sudfeld should have been enough!  It was such a weak excuse.

33 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

"I’m excited to get back to work with my teammates and help Philadelphia contend for Super Bowls again.”

That’s it. Easy. 

Which is  followed up by "but what about these reports...”

bc journalists are hacks largely

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

yea, that was the biggest bunch of hogwash ever.  Why in the world would you want your backup to be a rookie?  I much rather prefer a veteran who has played against NFL defenses, knows how to prepare and can come in cold knowing the situation.  Joe Flacco at $1 million would have been just fine with me.  Unstoppable Nate Sudfeld should have been enough!  It was such a weak excuse.

What makes it even more ridiculous is that Jeffrey lurie comes out in a press conference talking about Nate sudfeld as he’s unstoppable. So Sudfeld was unstoppable like lurie believed and yet you felt the need to go out and get another back up quarterback? Why wouldn’t you just extend sudfeld since he was that good and worthy. That’s a bunch of BS. 

Add on howie Roseman Stated in his presser that they were going to do a rebuild last off-season but switch directions because of the pandemic and everyone else in the division having new coaches. So you knew you were going to go into a rebuild and you need a back up quarterback knowing you were going into a rebuild either this year or next year for the next couple years. How important is a back up quarterback in the grand scheme of things in a multi year rebuild? I’m guessing in a rebuild it really low on the list of priorities

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

What makes it even more ridiculous is that Jeffrey lurie comes out in a press conference talking about Nate sudfeld as he’s unstoppable. So Sudfeld was unstoppable like lurie believed and yet you felt the need to go out and get another back up quarterback? That’s a bunch of BS. 

Add on howie Roseman Stated in his presser that they were going to do a rebuild last off-season but switch directions because of the pandemic and everyone else in the division having new coaches. So you knew you were going to go into a rebuild and you need a back up quarterback knowing you were going into a rebuild either this year or next year for the next couple years. How important is a back up quarterback in the grand scheme of things in a multi year rebuild? I’m guessing in a rebuild it really low on the list of priorities

It's absolutely infuriating.  Do they honestly believe the nonsense that comes out of their mouths?  Do they think we are that stupid to just say Oh, OK they are right.  We are LUCKY to have such great quarterback depth.  

34 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Only 18 QB's had a cap number of more than 10 million last year.  Only 26 had a cap number over 7 million.

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2020/

I am going to start pointing these things out and tag the post  "Another easily researched not thought out response"

I was being sarcastic, sorry.

Twitter is one of the worse things that happened to sports.  100 guys reporting on the same thing and more times than not, send out misinformation because they're trying to get the story out first.  Case in point, just go on the Eagles page on Bleacher Report and see how many tweets are about the same thing.  Over and over again.  Its not fun to follow at all.

Why do you think that college coaches look at social media accounts when they're recruiting?  They can see how late a kid says up at night and what nonsense they follow.  A kid posting stuff at 2am the night before a game is not my kind of player.

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

If the DOD hadn't paid the NFL to have its players on the field for the national anthem before every game because recruiting was down, we would not be having this conversation.

Where were all the super patriots when the military needed you to enlist ??  So worried about what a player is doing during the anthem, but not patriotic enough to go serve your country.

Military isn’t the only way to serve your fellow citizens.  

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I was being sarcastic, sorry.

Dude, you need to use the sarcasm font.  Wait, do we have a sarcasm font here?  If not then we really need one.  Maybe a certain colour?  Something.

 

2 minutes ago, Han Solo said:

Twitter is one of the worse things that happened to sports.  Society.  100 guys reporting on the same thing and more times than not, send out misinformation because they're trying to get the story out first.  Case in point, just go on the Eagles page on Bleacher Report and see how many tweets are about the same thing.  Over and over again.  Its not fun to follow at all.

Why do you think that college coaches look at social media accounts when they're recruiting?  They can see how late a kid says up at night and what nonsense they follow.  A kid posting stuff at 2am the night before a game is not my kind of player.

Fixed it for you.

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

It's absolutely infuriating.  Do they honestly believe the nonsense that comes out of their mouths?  Do they think we are that stupid to just say Oh, OK they are right.  We are LUCKY to have such great quarterback depth.  

It’s like I’ve said multiple times in the past they spin things in the way they want you to think it. And control how they want the narrative to be viewed as. Hence them saying wentz was fine with the drafting of hurts. Obviously wasn’t.  

But when you really look at the optics and you apply logic makes way more sense the Eagles were trying to have a safety net in place if Carson failed with a QB they liked. I firmly believe they didn’t know what Carson Wentz they were getting. They knew they were stuck in a contract with him for at least two more seasons to determine which they’d get. Additionally it was likely going to take hurts two seasons before he was ready to completely take over anyway if they had to move on from Carson Wentz. The timeline matches up more with they believed in time Jalen hurts could replace Carson with two years of grooming if they had to move on from wentz due to inconsistent play. If they didn’t have to move on they could continue the BS concoction they came up with  

that scenario makes way more sense that they wanted to have a safety net and Plan B to be ahead of the curve in case Carson wasn’t a quarterback they thought by the end of 2021 

19 minutes ago, downundermike said:

The backup QB who played the most snaps this year, and went 5-5, had a cap number of 3 million.  Got a guess who it was ??

Tell me, how do you think Dalton would have fared on the Eagles?

Both teams had OL issues, but Dallas also had Cooper, Lamb and Gallup, as well as Elliott and Pollard.

Just now, bpac55 said:

Fixed it for you.

Cross off Twitter and type "social media"

28 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Does not change the fact that recruiting was down and the DOD had to pay the NFL to get interest.  I guarantee the majority of internet patriots worried about Kap never served.  Every single person I know that served has no issue with him kneeling.  I know plenty of people who never served who took issue with it.

its def a mix for me, i knlw plenty of former and current who took issue with it, including one career Naval officer i know who retired 10 years ago and is a school teacher now, who def had issues with all of that and was very vocal about his reasons.

thats why i question those who say they dont know anyone who had issues, your bubble must be small and not very diverse

56 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t want him here.  It’s nothing personal, just as it’s not personal on his end in not wanting to be here.

Why on Earth would we want a 28 year old qb in need of salvaging with a massive albatross contract on a team with negative cap space that is rebuilding from the ground up with no signs of competing on the horizon?

He has no reason to want to be here and we have no reason to want him here.

Because 28 isn't old for a QB. His arm is fine, that's the key for a pocket QB.

And you're alternative? Draft a QB (just as risky, most top 10 QBs flop), or go with Hurts.

3 minutes ago, Han Solo said:

Cross off Twitter and type "social media"

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

The season ended a month ago. He was benched two months ago. How long do you want him to take? As long as he needs? He’s not a grieving widow. 

How old are you?  Do you remember offseason coverage before the internet and social media?  Players didn’t release statements to fans in the offseason.  Heck, we would subscribe to the Sporting News for a page on the NFL during the offseason.  Carson doesn’t have to release a statement.  From all appearances, he won the offseason.   Further, if as I believe, he is in negotiations with the Eagles to lessen his cap hit this season with a restructure, there is no advantage for him to say anything at this point.

Accurate depiction 

 

 

12 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Tell me, how do you think Dalton would have fared on the Eagles?

Both teams had OL issues, but Dallas also had Cooper, Lamb and Gallup, as well as Elliott and Pollard.

Are they expected to keep all of those weapons or are they going to lose some?

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Are they expected to keep all of those weapons or are they going to lose some?

They’ll lose one of the WR for sure.  They only wish they could lose Zeke at this point. 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

If your predecessor was idolized by your colleagues, some of your colleagues have been bad mouthing you behind your back, you were on the hotseat, you had 1-2 years to prove yourself before everyone declares you toast, and your superiors literally just announced that the rest of your department, who you depend on, would have little emphasis on success for the next 2 years during a restructuring...

Any one of us would not be able to punch our ticket out of that situation fast enough.  
 

There is a simple equation that cannot be balanced with Wentz.  He has a limited amount of time left to prove himself.  The owner/Lowie/Spadaro/you have all acknowledged that there are no aspirations of competing during that limited time frame.  
 

So you’ll dismiss it, but this Wentz salvage experiment is just a freight train headed for a cliff.

Find me one quote from Lurie, Howie, Nick, or Spads that the Eagles have "no aspirations of competing” during the time they take to add youth.   You can’t because they always want to compete and win.  They just recognize that to do so, changes have to be made from the Super Bowl team (and that is and has been underway to some degree since 2019).  

13 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Are they expected to keep all of those weapons or are they going to lose some?

Cooper is actually tradable on that contract. If traded it’s 8 mil dead and save 14 mil against the cap. If they deal him in 2022 it’s 6 mil dead money and 16 mil saving. Finding a team willing to take on that contract after this year is the challenge. However I’m guessing it likely is restructured if traded. If I’m dallas i think Gallup and lamb are more than capable and i rather get picks for cooper and use the money elsewhere. (Would have to re-sign Gallup though)