1 minute ago, RLC said:

If we're going to go the young coach route, it has to be a full rebuild. Right?

You’d assume. However howie said they were going to start rebuild last offseason then the pandemic hit and they did a 180 so they might think the end of the world is coming and reverse course 

30 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Because 28 isn't old for a QB. His arm is fine, that's the key for a pocket QB.

And you're alternative? Draft a QB (just as risky, most top 10 QBs flop), or go with Hurts.

You can't stay away from premium QB's just because "most top 10 QBs flop."  Most teams don't compete for a SB either, but that's not an excuse to cancel training camp and not show up for the games.  You've told us that WRs don't do well from round 1, most top 10 QB's flop...but you want to draft an H-back top 10?  Of course the hit rates for positions like OL and TE are higher top 10...the denominator is smaller.  Only rarer, more perfect prospects at those positions go in that range.

My alternative?  I don't think the Eagles will be in a position to draft a QB top 10 this year anyway.  I'd proceed with the Wentz reclamation project in an effort to Stafford him in 1-2 years if he proves he can turn it around.  I'd trade Hurts now for whatever we can get.  Draft someone with a decent head for the game and a live arm in the 3rd-4th round each year until either one of them hits or you find the right all-in prospect in round 1.

So just a RB coach to go if Roob is right that Moorehead was retained.  Hired our S coach away from UH today too.

1 hour ago, Han Solo said:

It couldn't possibly be that these guys just want a break and don't check/post something on social media every minute.  I'd be more worried of players that are constantly posting crap.

Fulgham posted about Dogecoin getting to $1, that made me sour on him 

5 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

He did not say the Eagles won’t compete.  Again, find me an Eagles won’t compete quote.  You can’t because that isn’t their position.  Difficult to compete as younger players get up to speed is not the same as won’t.  

Need to focus on what will "work in the long run with a focus on the mid-term and the long term and not on how to maximize 2021"

Do you want him to spell it out for you?

19 minutes ago, ThinkGreen said:

Booting Doug after a pandemic season was cold.

Every other coach in the NFL was dealing with the same thing.

So No

22 minutes ago, ThinkGreen said:

Booting Doug after a pandemic season was cold.

Was pretty dumb to go into a meeting suggesting Cory undlin as DC when he wasn’t good here as a secondary coach and with the lions head the 32nd pass defense. Then the kicker of promoting press Taylor to OC after the offense was pathetic all season particularly the passing game as he was the passing game coordinator 

12 minutes ago, RLC said:

If we're going to go the young coach route, it has to be a full rebuild. Right?

Not a full rebuild because Howie is still here IMO

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Not a full rebuild because Howie is still here IMO

One side-benefit of Howie's lifetime job security is that he's not going to be making short-term job--preserving decisions.  He'll rebuild with the same long-view of a brand new GM, just with worse draft picks.

14 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Nope.  He’s right.  

You’re wrong too. 

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

maybe wentz forgot his password to Twitter and it locked his account. Does that get filed under the wentz haters wentz excuses? 

I think it gets filed under "I'll act like the team leader again when they tell me I'm the team leader" which, even if his agent is advising him to do this, is an F in the role in which he currently is paid to occupy. It appears that he did not learn a lot from Nick Foles. Very disappointing and you know who notices this? The soldiers who go on to the field and fight for the team, the default leader of which is the QB, the field general. If Wentz wants to be the Eagles franchise QB, it is puzzling why he won't publicly support new people joining the organization. And for those who knee jerk the Wentz hater response to this post, don't bother. This is an easy observation for anyone who has held a leadership position or studied those who have done it well. 

20 minutes ago, RLC said:

If we're going to go the young coach route, it has to be a full rebuild. Right?

unless we clear up cap space, yes it's full rebuild and i think they know that.

16 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

I think it gets filed under "I'll act like the team leader again when they tell me I'm the team leader" which, even if his agent is advising him to do this, is an F in the role in which he currently is paid to occupy. It appears that he did not learn a lot from Nick Foles. Very disappointing and you know who notices this? The soldiers who go on to the field and fight for the team, the default leader of which is the QB, the field general. If Wentz wants to be the Eagles franchise QB, it is puzzling why he won't publicly support new people joining the organization. And for those who knee jerk the Wentz hater response to this post, don't bother. This is an easy observation for anyone who has held a leadership position or studied those who have done it well. 

So what’s the reason when most of the players didn’t and ones you consider also team leaders or does this standard only apply to wentz the team leader? I’m a little confused as to why fletcher cox or Brandon Graham who are team leaders say nothing and no one bats an eye

11 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Spare me the "soldiers going to battle” line.  They are all paid handsomely to do their F-ing jobs.  Not to gossip or air dirty laundry out on social media.  And they are not Soldiers!!!!

Kellen Winslow jr disagrees lol 

14 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Not a full rebuild because Howie is still here IMO

He might have an epiphany again where he thinks they can win midway through the offseason and decides against it like he did in 2020 offseason with the pandemic changing his course. 

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

And he’s in prison.  So there you go.  

Prisoner of war!! 

11 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

You’re wrong too. 

20 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Was pretty dumb to go into a meeting suggesting Cory undlin as DC when he wasn’t good here as a secondary coach and with the lions head the 32nd pass defense. Then the kicker of promoting press Taylor to OC after the offense was pathetic all season particularly the passing game as he was the passing game coordinator 

Telling him to eat $59M in dead money so he could roll with Hurts was a career limiting move as well.

38 minutes ago, devpool said:

Most of the people I knew that were angry weren't active duty and never were. Most of the active duty people who were angry are the same ones who are now posting election fraud stuff and that this country is now a socialist hellhole so take that for what it's worth.

ah yes if you disagree with thier opinions, clearly they must be dehumanized.  its a thing we do now  

we lost how to have civil discourse when we disagree.

 

further proof some of you have very small bubbles

 

15 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Need to focus on what will "work in the long run with a focus on the mid-term and the long term and not on how to maximize 2021"

Do you want him to spell it out for you?

So basically, your interpretation is that the Eagles won’t compete is what he meant.  This sounds like building the team for the long run, including going after younger players rather that retaining some of the older players like Jeffery, DJax or M.Jackson to me.  Think Carson puts himself with younger rather than older group.  Sounds more like breaking up the 2017 band and stepping back to their old approach that not competing in 2021.   I have every belief that Lurie expects them to compete in 2021 but the focus is returning to building with young players.  So we won’t see any Slay like moves and certainty learned our lesson with DJax.  I expect third contracts to become a rarity too.  

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Telling him to eat $59M in dead money so he could roll with Hurts was a career limiting move as well.

Basically the plan for the 59 million in dead money 

14 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

And he’s in prison.  So there you go.  

And he was the 6th overall pick in the draft therefore Kyle Pitts = a guy who will spank it on team flights and end up going to jail 

 

#analytics 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

And he was the 6th overall pick in the draft therefore Kyle Pitts = a guy who will spank it on team flights and end up going to jail 

the thought that players must speak to the media or social media to let fans know where their head is at, is some of the most cringy self entitled pathetic bullsheet.

the only thing that matters is what is being said between the player and the team. 

We as fans may be curious, but we are not owed anything. Sorry.

I have stated in here so often its becoming my mantra: actions mean everything, and words mean all most nothing. Just wait for the actions, we will know soon enough.

oh wait, some of you have the patience of a 6 month old theybe!

2 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

the thought that players must speak to the media or social media to let fans know where their head is at, is some of the most cringy self entitled pathetic bullsheet.

the only thing that matters is what is being said between the player and the team. 

We as fans may be curious, but we are not owed anything. Sorry.

I have stated in here so often its becoming my mantra: actions mean everything, and words mean all most nothing. Just wait for the actions, we will know soon enough.

oh wait, some of you have the patience of a 6 month old theybe!

yep

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Jesus Christ I love the internet