Burke interviewing for DC in Green Bay. 

Call me crazy but Carson is the least of my concerns.  I have confidence he can regain his form.  There's no denying he was horrible in 2020 but nothing with the team went right.  I don't think he's weak minded and I don't see any sort of entitlement from him.  

Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't think of any teammates (Alshon excluded) come out and said that he was a bad teammate or he acted a sort of way that turned them off?  

I can't think of any coaches who have said he's uncoachable.

Every single report is just from twitter hack writing something based on hearsay with no proof to back it up.  Even the profit of reporting Adam Shefter threw tweets out that had no backing.  

Give me a motivated, 10 lb. leaner Carson Wentz with a healthy o-line, a coaching staff who calls plays that take advantage of players strengths and utilizes a run game and I think the Eagles can be just fine.

5 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I mean look I think what Jenkins said last week is telling.

I wonder what he'll be saying about his own QB:

Brees: 19-34 134yards 1TD 3INTs in their biggest game of the season (L).

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Burke interviewing for DC in Green Bay. 

I saw Jim Leonhard's name and got sad.

2 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I can’t put into words how much I despise this whining, self inflated wind bag.  Of course he uses the word "Karen”.  They allow some fans in and guess who the first players is who has an issue.  
 

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30818967/fans-ejected-verbal-spat-lakers-lebron-james-atlanta

I'm not saying I like LeBron but I have no sympathy for that woman.  

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Rams chose to trade away draft picks to clear salary and a chance to win now.  Bad idea.  It normally doesn’t work.  I think it was a dumb trade for LA.   

I agree and they have like $120 million tied up between 6 players.  So they are likely not going to keep any of their FAs.  

18 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

I wonder what he'll be saying about his own QB:

Brees: 19-34 134yards 1TD 3INTs in their biggest game of the season (L).

That he should retire. 

19 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Call me crazy but Carson is the least of my concerns.  I have confidence he can regain his form.  There's no denying he was horrible in 2020 but nothing with the team went right.  I don't think he's weak minded and I don't see any sort of entitlement from him.  

Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't think of any teammates (Alshon excluded) come out and said that he was a bad teammate or he acted a sort of way that turned them off?  

I can't think of any coaches who have said he's uncoachable.

Every single report is just from twitter hack writing something based on hearsay with no proof to back it up.  Even the profit of reporting Adam Shefter threw tweets out that had no backing.  

Give me a motivated, 10 lb. leaner Carson Wentz with a healthy o-line, a coaching staff who calls plays that take advantage of players strengths and utilizes a run game and I think the Eagles can be just fine.

The QB position is the most important position on an NFL team and I don't think we know whether the Eagles have a QB that's capable of leading a Super Bowl team.  While I agree that I think there's a good chance Carson can return to being a winning QB.  Carson is the biggest concern on the team.  The second biggest concern is whether Hurts could be a functional above average QB in the League.  I think Carson has to play well next season in order to keep him.  He has to have a convincing season with the new staff.  If that doesn't happen, the team should play Hurts enough to see if he has an NFL arm.  I think figuring out the QB position is the most important part of next season.  I mean in some ways it would be easier if they moved on from him this season.  I don't think that needs to happen.

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I'm not defending the bimbo.  The story is, Lebron and her husband got into it and she went off on Lebron and of course Lebron couldn't take it and had her removed.  I don't know her or care for that matter.  She seems like a real pain in the arse.  But how does a major sports athlete gets into it with a fan courtside and then his wife?  Lebron looks like a bigger tool with this than he does crying for a foul on every possession, every game (slight exaggeration).  The guy is a complete tool.  He's always crying about something.  F him.  

I mean honestly her husband is probably happy that he has one less place to go with her in public.  

2 hours ago, greend said:

I'm honestly guessing Carson doesn't want to be here, but that said somedays I don't like my job either. What will matter is if he works on his flaws this offseason and shows up to work on time and ready to play. If what Jenkins said is true (at least he put his name with it) then shame on the coaching staff for worrying about protecting his ego rather than worrying about his play.

I give you full credit for not pretending to know what Carson wants unlike some posters.

13 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Was pretty dumb to go into a meeting suggesting Cory undlin as DC when he wasn’t good here as a secondary coach and with the lions head the 32nd pass defense. Then the kicker of promoting press Taylor to OC after the offense was pathetic all season particularly the passing game as he was the passing game coordinator 

I know it's been mentioned before, but Doug couldn't seriously have thought these were logical solutions.  I think reports of him "not caring" if here were fired had more truth to them than I originally thought.  

Just now, hputenis said:

I know it's been mentioned before, but Doug couldn't seriously have thought these were logical solutions.  I think reports of him "not caring" if here were fired had more truth to them than I originally thought.  

I don't know if he didn't care as much as he just wanted out of the situation.  I think he wanted control and realized that he wasn't going to get it with Howie.  

33 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I'm not defending the bimbo.  The story is, Lebron and her husband got into it and she went off on Lebron and of course Lebron couldn't take it and had her removed.  I don't know her or care for that matter.  She seems like a real pain in the arse.  But how does a major sports athlete gets into it with a fan courtside and then his wife?  Lebron looks like a bigger tool with this than he does crying for a foul on every possession, every game (slight exaggeration).  The guy is a complete tool.  He's always crying about something.  F him.  

Lebron is my all time least tolerable athlete.  I’d rather watch a Brady SB highlight film and follow him on Instagram than watch a single Lebron regular season game.  

13 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

  

We're rebuilding the next two years, first rule of a rebuild, build a team first, especially the OL, THEN get the QB.

Reason is we've seen numerous young QBs get totally destroyed playing on bad teams.

So it makes perfect sense to keep Wentz and Hurts, develop both, build a team around them, and if they don't work out, then go out and look for a QB.

At that point in 2023 you'll have a young, talented team where the new QB doesn't have to carry the load.

2 hours ago, greend said:

I'm honestly guessing Carson doesn't want to be here, but that said somedays I don't like my job either. What will matter is if he works on his flaws this offseason and shows up to work on time and ready to play. If what Jenkins said is true (at least he put his name with it) then shame on the coaching staff for worrying about protecting his ego rather than worrying about his play.

I think he wants to be here but he's probably on vacation like every other player who isn't on Bucs and Chiefs

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If you take what Adam caplan said at face value yesterday on their podcast that doug and the coaching staff had a problem holding players in general accountable and they rarely benched or punished anyone. I don’t know how true or false it is but if he’s right then it was a team wide thing which again falls on the coaching staff for allowing it. 

Peters, Alshon, Ertz, Gerry,  and a bunch of others should have been benched for their play

1 hour ago, brkmsn said:

I wonder what he'll be saying about his own QB:

Brees: 19-34 134yards 1TD 3INTs in their biggest game of the season (L).

He should be critical of course but internally. I mean look we can discuss whether Jenkins should have said what he did about Carson and whether he's acting out as a disgruntled former Eagles player but what he said isn't without merit. These are things we've heard and read for a couple of years now and to me Jenkins saying that just further validated what a lot of us did already think.

12 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Lebron is my all time least tolerable athlete.  I’d rather watch a Brady SB highlight film and follow him on Instagram than watch a single Lebron regular season game.  

MJ and Kobe were arrogant, complained about calls and could be difficult but they were never self-righteous.    I mean they were a-holes and knew it and didn't pretend they were something other than superstar basketball players.   Brady is the same way.  

11 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I think he wants to be here but he's probably on vacation like every other player who isn't on Bucs and Chiefs

Peters, Alshon, Ertz, Gerry,  and a bunch of others should have been benched for their play

Yup. I mean I do think Peters and Gerry were essentially.  Alshon should have never taken a snap except out of an emergency. 

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

MJ and Kobe were arrogant, complained about calls and could be difficult but they were never self-righteous.    I mean they were a-holes and knew it and didn't pretend they were something other than superstar basketball players.   Brady is the same way.  

I respect MJ even more after watching The Last Dance. I recommend it to anyone who hasn't watched it

10 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I think he wants to be here but he's probably on vacation like every other player who isn't on Bucs and Chiefs

Peters, Alshon, Ertz, Gerry,  and a bunch of others should have been benched for their play

It was infuriating.  Every Eagle fan on the planet this year could easily identify that Gerry was awful, and Singleton was a clear upgrade.  Peters was not an upgrade over Mailata and should have never been put back into the lineup. And inserting Alshon into the lineup and decreasing Fulgham's snaps did absolutely nothing but deter his development.  These 3 personnel decisions alone were so egregious I don't even know what to think.  

33 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Lebron is my all time least tolerable athlete.  I’d rather watch a Brady SB highlight film and follow him on Instagram than watch a single Lebron regular season game.  

 Examples of passive-aggressive behavior might include avoiding direct or clear communication, evading problems, fear of intimacy or competition, making excuses, blaming others, obstructionism, playing the victim, feigning compliance with requests, sarcasm, backhanded compliments, and hiding anger. 
 

Other example

**OFF TOPIC (and super important)

How come every female assassin movie stars a woman that anyone can easily snap in half like a pencil?  I have one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen on in the background right now, and the woman assassin is probably 17-18 years old in real life.  She has chubby, flab arms either from baby fat or from never working out a day in her life, and I'm supposed to believe she is going to take on a group of male high school seniors in the woods without a gun, most of whom look like D1 athletes.  Cast better Hollywood.  We're all too smart for this.  

5 minutes ago, hputenis said:

It was infuriating.  Every Eagle fan on the planet this year could easily identify that Gerry was awful, and Singleton was a clear upgrade.  Peters was not an upgrade over Mailata and should have never been put back into the lineup. And inserting Alshon into the lineup and decreasing Fulgham's snaps did absolutely nothing but deter his development.  These 3 personnel decisions alone were so egregious I don't even know what to think.  

Yeah those 3 examples makes the "Doug doesn’t do accountability” story hold water. Gives me some hope that a new staff can turn it around by just coaching better. 

18 minutes ago, hputenis said:

It was infuriating.  Every Eagle fan on the planet this year could easily identify that Gerry was awful, and Singleton was a clear upgrade.  Peters was not an upgrade over Mailata and should have never been put back into the lineup. And inserting Alshon into the lineup and decreasing Fulgham's snaps did absolutely nothing but deter his development.  These 3 personnel decisions alone were so egregious I don't even know what to think.  

Thats when i jumped off the Dougy train, till that point, i thought he was salvageable as a hc. but his insistence of playing these players when younger players were out playing them was as you stated, egregious

50 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

He should be critical of course but internally. I mean look we can discuss whether Jenkins should have said what he did about Carson and whether he's acting out as a disgruntled former Eagles player but what he said isn't without merit. These are things we've heard and read for a couple of years now and to me Jenkins saying that just further validated what a lot of us did already think.

Or maybe that Jenkins has actually been saying it for two years now and was always an "anonymous source” of some of this junk 

3 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If you take what Adam caplan said at face value yesterday on their podcast that doug and the coaching staff had a problem holding players in general accountable and they rarely benched or punished anyone. I don’t know how true or false it is but if he’s right then it was a team wide thing which again falls on the coaching staff for allowing it. 

The lack of discipline clearly shows up on the field. Dumb penalties, drops, etc are a result of poor discipline and results in things like poor starting field position, turnovers, and lousy 3rd down conversion rates; all which impact results of games. A well coached team seems to have more luck, tough passes are caught, more turnovers on defense. The Eagles have had a ton of injuries, but they lost close games because of poor coaching and lack of discipline.

31 minutes ago, hputenis said:

**OFF TOPIC (and super important)

How come every female assassin movie stars a woman that anyone can easily snap in half like a pencil?  I have one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen on in the background right now, and the woman assassin is probably 17-18 years old in real life.  She has chubby, flab arms either from baby fat or from never working out a day in her life, and I'm supposed to believe she is going to take on a group of male high school seniors in the woods without a gun, most of whom look like D1 athletes.  Cast better Hollywood.  We're all too smart for this.  

The fact that you watched it would indicate we're not too smart for this.