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Rob Maaddi

 

@RobMaaddi

 

Former #Eagles player told me: "Doug wasn’t the problem. Carson isn’t the problem. The PROBLEM is still there.” This feeling has been expressed to me by several others recently. More people around the league have shared similar thoughts with me over the past week in Tampa.

 

4:32 PM · Feb 6, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

 

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My first response is always: "But they won a Super Bowl just 3 years ago.” I don’t know how the culture changed so dramatically and it’s quite possible if the team hits on draft picks, key players return healthy and others perform to expectations, they can rebound.

15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

And yet they took him over both of them and were also dabbling in Jordan Love. So we also must factor the scouts might not have thought of him that way but that doesn’t mean Lurie and Howie agree with their scouts. 

Nah... it was Doug.  All Doug.  Always Doug.

12 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

No one know what he is talking about. 

Dumblebear reminds me of TrotterIsGod. Both write random crap and post music videos. Maybe TrotterIsGod was banned and he created a new name. 

There is a reason the ignore feature exists... 

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It’s the same person

good saves me time to just put him on ignore now as well since everything he posts is completely useless. 

Lol I hope one of the reporters has the balls to ask Howie how he has a job after all of this over the years

5 minutes ago, John_C said:

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"The problem is still there”

gee..... who could they mean??

Must be Stoutland.   No other answer is possible.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Must be Stoutland.   No other answer is possible.

Aaron Moorehead. He destroyed the team. 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Must be Stoutland.   No other answer is possible.

Maybe they were talking about Jason Peters. He seems to always be here. Lol

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Let me get this straight, the Eagles didn’t let Doug pick his own staff, forced him to fire two coaches he wanted to keep and no control over game day roster decisions. However allowed him to be a major influence on Howie selecting Reagor over Jefferson and drafting Hurts cause he loved him? Ya that checks out 

   =  Doug (and all of the coaches that they let go)

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Lol I hope one of the reporters has the balls to ask Howie how he has a job after all of this over the years

You think Howie will be available to the media any time soon?

 

Nope.   He'll be in a bunker until draft day.  Then he might come out and discuss the picks, but any question about him, he'll deflect with the 'I'm here to talk about the draft and the players we've added to our roster... blah blah blah..."   Then he'll go back into hiding in Lurie's basement.

Agreed. Don’t waste time with middling vets with zero upside. 

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Been my theory all along. I call it the Eagles spin. The tweet yesterday posted on here from a report that said they soured on Wentz after 2019 makes me believe it even more. 

If that's the case then what they did was choose Doug over Wentz at the time.  A SB winning coach vs a QB, who while he helped get you in position to make a SB run, didn't actually help win you the SB and has been injured more than once and due to one of those injuries now isn't as dynamic as he once was.

Doug was trying to turn Wentz into Foles with the RPOs.  We also had a bottom 3 WR group and despite that Wentz played well down the stretch and they made the playoffs.  The dirty hit by Clowney was very unfortunate, yet added to the straw on the camel's back about Wentz's durability.  IMO, had we had an actual football guy in charge who could see that Doug wasn't playing to Wentz's strengths and that we needed better personnel that we wouldn't have drafted a QB at #53.  A rational GM with actual knowledge of the game would have talked with Doug and told him what he's doing isn't working and they need to work together to hire an OC that will develop/run an O similar to what Reich did to help get things back on track.

Not this organization.  They decide to go OC by committee and draft a QB in the 2nd Round.  I envision the Eagles FO like a room of monkeys where you throw a bunch of bananas into the room tied to strings and pull the bananas along the floor and watch them run around chasing every banana that crosses their path because they simply can't focus on one banana to scoop up. 

 

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

You think Howie will be available to the media any time soon?

 

Nope.   He'll be in a bunker until draft day.  Then he might come out and discuss the picks, but any question about him, he'll deflect with the 'I'm here to talk about the draft and the players we've added to our roster... blah blah blah..."   Then he'll go back into hiding in Lurie's basement.

If I could I would I would too. My house is just over 6k sq foot. Lurie's basement is prob 20x the size and has all kinds of fun stuff. Arcade, water park, naked room, strip club, 5 star restaurant, mini golf, and a roller skating rink. Someone please forward my mail. 

8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

So we've got the Lions, Panthers, Broncos and 49ers all in the first half of the draft and looking for a QB but outside the range for one of the top guys.  Miami, Cincinnati, and Atlanta are sitting in a great position to leverage their high picks if someone has their eyes on Fields/Wilson.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Eagles can give them Cox for a lot less 

3 hours ago, downundermike said:

Been a fan here long? If Nick Foles comes to Philadelphia as part of all this, Jalen Hurts will have to be damn near perfect for the fans not to start clamoring for the back up to take over.

I beat around the bush with this last night.  There is no way they can't circumvent the QB insanity if they trade Wentz and bring in Foles.  Doesn't matter if Foles starts or backs up Hurts.

13 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Must be Stoutland.   No other answer is possible.

Nope...Duce

I just realized what I responded to and how I'm wrong, but I'll leave it.

20 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Him saying he wants to return to Philly wouldn’t negatively affect his trade value for the Eagles. 

If he doesn't want to return, he'd be lying. So maybe the silence is his best move?

6 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

If that's the case then what they did was choose Doug over Wentz at the time.  A SB winning coach vs a QB, who while he helped get you in position to make a SB run, didn't actually help win you the SB and has been injured more than once and due to one of those injuries now isn't as dynamic as he once was.

Doug was trying to turn Wentz into Foles with the RPOs.  We also had a bottom 3 WR group and despite that Wentz played well down the stretch and they made the playoffs.  The dirty hit by Clowney was very unfortunate, yet added to the straw on the camel's back about Wentz's durability.  IMO, had we had an actual football guy in charge who could see that Doug wasn't playing to Wentz's strengths and that we needed better personnel that we wouldn't have drafted a QB at #53.  A rational GM with actual knowledge of the game would have talked with Doug and told him what he's doing isn't working and they need to work together to hire an OC that will develop/run an O similar to what Reich did to help get things back on track.

Not this organization.  They decide to go OC by committee and draft a QB in the 2nd Round.  I envision the Eagles FO like a room of monkeys where you throw a bunch of bananas into the room tied to strings and pull the bananas along the floor and watch them run around chasing every banana that crosses their path because they simply can't focus on one banana to scoop up. 

You are looking for logic.   Lurie and Howie follow the hot trends... and change direction when the wind blows a different way.   We need to be above the rim 12 personnel... get Goedert... get JJAW.   Aw crap, that didn't work, now we need speed lots of speed.  Sign Desean, draft Reagor, trade for Goodwin, draft Hightower, draft Watkins... get Hurts (fastest QB in the draft), draft Taylor...    Aw crap, that didn't work... 

 

Same can be said for drafting highly productive college players over potential... then they went the opposite way this past year... all potential, extremely limited production.

21 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'm pretty sure all those teams are in a better position right now than the Eagles. 

I mean, none of them have been remotely as successful as Roseman AND they all have long-term questions.

Howie should be fired, but he's not Gettleman-level bad.

7 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

If I could I would I would too. My house is just over 6k sq foot. Lurie's basement is prob 20x the size and has all kinds of fun stuff. Arcade, water park, naked room, strip club, 5 star restaurant, mini golf, and a roller skating rink. Someone please forward my mail. 

My house is a fraction of yours, and I wouldn't touch Lurie's house.

15 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

If that's the case then what they did was choose Doug over Wentz at the time.  A SB winning coach vs a QB, who while he helped get you in position to make a SB run, didn't actually help win you the SB and has been injured more than once and due to one of those injuries now isn't as dynamic as he once was.

Doug was trying to turn Wentz into Foles with the RPOs.  We also had a bottom 3 WR group and despite that Wentz played well down the stretch and they made the playoffs.  The dirty hit by Clowney was very unfortunate, yet added to the straw on the camel's back about Wentz's durability.  IMO, had we had an actual football guy in charge who could see that Doug wasn't playing to Wentz's strengths and that we needed better personnel that we wouldn't have drafted a QB at #53.  A rational GM with actual knowledge of the game would have talked with Doug and told him what he's doing isn't working and they need to work together to hire an OC that will develop/run an O similar to what Reich did to help get things back on track.

Not this organization.  They decide to go OC by committee and draft a QB in the 2nd Round.  I envision the Eagles FO like a room of monkeys where you throw a bunch of bananas into the room tied to strings and pull the bananas along the floor and watch them run around chasing every banana that crosses their path because they simply can't focus on one banana to scoop up. 

I don’t think it was that at all. I think they viewed it this way they didn’t know what Carson Wentz they were going to get anymore. Were they going to get early season 2019 Carson Wentz or were they going to get late season 2019 Carson Wentz. I still believe the organization looked at the end of 2019 as fools gold. They saw a really pathetic schedule to end the season that propelled them into the playoffs and just played in a bad division. And the one game they thought on the schedule that would be a good barometer was Dallas and Dak Prescott had a bum shoulder for the game.

So considering the fact that I believe they didn’t know what they were getting out of Carson Wentz going forward they went looking for a back up plan. They wanted to have a guy in place in case Carson Wentz was not the guy they originally thought. The Eagles being the Eagles spun it as well Carson gets hurt a lot using the concussion as the latest example and used their cap situation to justify needing a cheap back. However the fact is that they were very interested in Jordan love. He was not going to fall the 53. So they would’ve had a move up into the end of the first round to get him or take him at 20 (as teams would want to take him there to get the fifth year option on him). Tells me they were looking for a quarterback that had franchise quarterback potential to be the back up plan in case all this fell apart with Carson Wentz who they began souring on anyways

3 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I think the Eagles could get a 3rd for Hurts. A team in need of a backup who’s going for it all would see value in him. Say your starter gets dinged up and you need a guy to hold down the fort for 1-4 games. That’s where Hurts has value. 
 

The Steelers and Bills are the first two teams that pop in my head. The Ravens and Chiefs would also be updating their backup spot. 

What team would give up a third?  Wentz has past performance to garner return.  Hurts has nothing, he was worse than Wentz was last season.  He had NFL level coaching at Bama and got benched for his inability to play QB.  Then he barely beat out someone after transferring.

5 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

So we've got the Lions, Panthers, Broncos and 49ers all in the first half of the draft and looking for a QB but outside the range for one of the top guys.  Miami, Cincinnati, and Atlanta are sitting in a great position to leverage their high picks if someone has their eyes on Fields/Wilson.

You think Dolphins keep Tua? He was benched twice for Fitzpatrick. Would have been a 3rd time if Fitzpatrick wasn't on the COVID list

5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Eagles can give them Cox for a lot less 

It's a shame that they never got him any help. He was constantly getting tripled and doubled

11 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

You miss 100 percent of the shots you don’t take.