1 hour ago, schuy7 said:

Albert Breer on Flip and how it relates to Chicago's interest in Wentz:

https://t.co/EYSZfKBZrK

Yeah, we have seen how well it works for Wentz when he has a QB coach that divides his time to serve as passing game coordinator.  Smart move for Chicago and Indy. 

LMAO, it's the Eagles fault that Wentz is mentally soft, had the worst season of any starting QB in the NFL, and is requesting a trade. This place is borderline unbearable right now. A lot of you clowns need to leave and go join a Carson Wentz lovers FB page.

2 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I wish Sirianni could rehire Press Taylor just so he could fire him again. F that guy.

Despite his uselessness, he wouldn't even be in my top 10 of ****ers in this organization that piss me off (most of whom are still here BTW)!!  

6 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I wish Sirianni could rehire Press Taylor just so he could fire him again. F that guy.

He’s a problem for the genius Reich now. 

4 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

LMAO, it's the Eagles fault that Wentz is mentally soft, had the worst season of any starting QB in the NFL, and is requesting a trade. This place is borderline unbearable right now. A lot of you clowns need to leave and go join a Carson Wentz lovers FB page.

33 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

I'm on this side. I think Lurie will regret it

Also...F Howie

In terms of RBs, sign me up for Jaret Patterson from Buffalo. Probably available in the 5th-6th round. A bruising, productive between the tackles back that could be the 'Thunder' to Sanders' 'Lightning.'

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, hputenis said:

If Wentz was willing, would you give him another shot with an entirely new coaching staff?  I realize he's not, and I actually don't blame him 100% because this organization is a disaster.  

Part of me is intrigued to see what a new staff could do with Wentz, but it doesn’t seem promising that’ll happen. 

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'm on this side. I think Lurie will regret it

Also...F Howie

Yep. This comes down to Howie's ego. Chip sucked, but at least he was smart enough to throw him in the basement. 

17 minutes ago, Eagles_All_Day said:

Now that the damage was done, wouldn't it be best to move on from Wentz since he wants out?

That’s not the argument. The argument is Eagles and the fans will regret trading Wentz.

If you are married and lose the trust of your wife because you did one too many stupid things to the point she had to move on, it’s probably the best decision for both, but there could be regret that you did all those stupid things to get to this point in the first place. 

If Wentz goes back to the 2017 Wentz, Lurie will regret it.

If he goes back to the 2019 Wentz, he won't. While that Wentz was fine, he was Kirk Cousins esque. Certainly not worth $25+/year. You can do a lot better than that and should look for better than that.

Either way, by the time the Eagles are good again, Wentz will be like 31 probably.

I'm ready for a full on rebuild.

I didn't think the Eagles would trade Carson. I've been surprised they're going in this direction, though maybe Carson is forcing their hand. Either way, I think it's the right decision, and I actually regain a tiiiny bit of faith in the decision makers for having the guts to do it.

The Eagles weren’t going to trade Carson but then he cried and demanded it clearly 

3 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Part of me is intrigued to see what a new staff could do with Wentz, but it doesn’t seem promising that’ll happen. 

I guess I was asking the question as a hypothetical.  I understand that it's done, but I haven't truly accepted it yet.  For this front office and coaching staff to F this up, along with Carson being a baby, it's unacceptable to me.  Not like I can do anything about it, but I have no doubt he goes to a stable franchise and resurrects himself as a franchise QB.  

5 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

I didn't think the Eagles would trade Carson. I've been surprised they're going in this direction, though maybe Carson is forcing their hand. Either way, I think it's the right decision, and I actually regain a tiiiny bit of faith in the decision makers for having the guts to do it.

wentz's time here was done as soon as he was benched.  whoever made that call, ended his career as an eagle.

3 minutes ago, JayEcho said:

wentz's time here was done as soon as he was benched.  whoever made that call, ended his career as an eagle.

he was done when foles delivered a superbowl to philly , he didn't have the mental toughness to out shine the legend of BDN

11 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If Wentz goes back to the 2017 Wentz, Lurie will regret it.

If he goes back to the 2019 Wentz, he won't. While that Wentz was fine, he was Kirk Cousins esque. Certainly not worth $25+/year. You can do a lot better than that and should look for better than that.

Either way, by the time the Eagles are good again, Wentz will be like 31 probably.

I'm ready for a full on rebuild.

40 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It is really simple... bring in an athletic WR who's dangerous with the ball in his hands on the move... and ask him to run comebacks, hitches, etc where he catches the ball flat footed or coming back to the QB (something he never did this season and lead to some INTs and incompletions)    OR... give him the ball on jet sweeps, flanker screens, crossing patterns, and get him the ball in space.  

We saw him on the PR... 1 of 4... and turned it into a TD.   We saw him on a crossing pattern and he gobbled up yardage quickly, even though he doesn't seem to be running fast.

 

I'm wondering if Reagor was in SF instead of Phi what he might have done last year.   Could he have approached with Aiyuk did?  Maybe... maybe not.  Hopefully Sirianni and company use Reagor properly... even as the PR... crazy thought.

This is why I think the slamming of that pick at this point to be irrational.  Ya the stats sucked for Reagor this year, but I loved the pick and he showed glimpses when afforded the opportunity.  

I don’t understand why some people like want to just blame one person for everything all the time. Just like the offense not being good this is organization failure at every level with everyone to blame.
 

I’ll say it first, part of the blame is for Carson sucking and regressing, absolutely.
 

Part of the problem is the GM giving up a ton of resources to draft Carson. Then giving him a lucrative long term contract that you structured in a way that you clearly had plans to restructure him this offseason. All the while giving him bad skill players at WR to work with. They got lucky with 1 year Alshon and 1 year Torrey Smith while Agholor managed to put together a good year. Before that you gave him DGB and Matthews. After that you gave him Mike Wallace that played 0 games with him. After that the solution is DeSean Jackson who is past his prime followed by Jag after Jag after Jag practice squad call up. After that, your plan was no veterans just draft young guys to grow with Carson. All of this besides 2017 is terrible decision making. 

The other part of the problem is coaching. Whether the HC and play caller isn’t building an offense around Wentz to fit his strong suit or the QB coach begins coddling the QB, it’s failure. The HC should and probably did see the coddling and did nothing to stop it besides keep moving Taylor up the ranks.

And the final part of the problem is the owner for letting this all happen. 

1 minute ago, Wentz_Era said:

This is why I think the slamming of that pick at this point to be irrational.  Ya the stats sucked for Reagor this year, but I loved the pick and he showed glimpses when afforded the opportunity.  

In today's NFL, first round picks should be making impacts, not showing glimpses. 

20 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

In terms of RBs, sign me up for Jaret Patterson from Buffalo. Probably available in the 5th-6th round. A bruising, productive between the tackles back that could be the 'Thunder' to Sanders' 'Lightning.'

 

 

 

He’s 5-9, 195. That’s some small thunder. 

They haven't traded Wentz yet, so let's see what happens.

Nor are they starting from ground zero in a rebuild, age in 2021:

QB:  Hurts (23)

RB:  Sanders (24), Scott (26)

WR:  Reagor (22), Fulgham (26), Ward (26), Watkins (23), Hightower (25)

TE:  Goedert (26), JJAW (25)

OL:  Dillard (26), Seumalo (28), Herbig (27), Mailata (24), Driscoll (24), Toth (25), Opeta (26)

DL:  Barnett (25), Hargrave (28), Williams (24), Sweat (24), Avery (26), Ostman (26)

LB:  Edwards (25), Singleton (28), Taylor (23), Bradley (24), Bachie (23), Smith (24)

CB:  Arnold (24), James (25), Jacquet (24), LeBlanc (27)

S:  Mills (27), Epps (25), Wallace (24)

A lot of these guys started multiple games last year.

This isn't nearly enough, but it's a solid start, and often one or two top players can make big difference, put a solid WLB with Edwards and Singleton, find a FS who can cover for limited CBs, etc.They should have two loaded drafts wtih high picks to find 4 or 5 starters to add to this group, and then in 2023 bring in 2-3 FAs. And develop a few UDFAs/Futures like that converted QB they brought in to try at H-back.

With the veterans phased out over two years, that buys time to replace guys like Graham, Cox, McLeod, Slay, Kelce, Brooks, Lane.

4 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

This is why I think the slamming of that pick at this point to be irrational.  Ya the stats sucked for Reagor this year, but I loved the pick and he showed glimpses when afforded the opportunity.  

I will slam Howie for anything and everything right now.   Reagor is low hanging fruit.  Reagor or Jefferson... on the surface, Howie is a moron.   Meanwhile, Doug is also an idiot for how he used him.   Both are idiots.

For every Ryan Tannehill reclamation, there's multiple high-profile QBs who fail in their 2nd spot (Newton, Cutler, Bradford, Sanchez, Flacco, etc.). 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t understand why some people like want to just blame one person for everything all the time. Just like the offense not being good this is organization failure at every level with everyone to blame.
 

I’ll say it first, part of the blame is for Carson sucking and regressing, absolutely.

Part of the problem is the GM giving up a ton of resources to draft Carson. Then giving him a lucrative long term contract that you structured in a way that you clearly had plans to restructure him this offseason. All the while giving him bad skill players at WR to work with. They got lucky with 1 year Alshon and 1 year Torrey Smith while Agholor managed to put together a good year. Before that you gave him DGB and Matthews. After that you gave him Mike Wallace that played 0 games with him. After that the solution is DeSean Jackson who is past his primes followed by Jag after Jag after Jag practice squad call up. After that, your plan was no veterans just draft young guys to grow with Carson. All of this besides 2017 is terrible decision making. 

The other part of the problem is coaching. Whether the HC and play caller isn’t building an offense around Wentz to fit his strong suit or the QB coach begins coddling the QB, it’s failure. The HC should and probably did see the coddling and did nothing to stop it besides keep moving Taylor up the ranks.

And the final part of the problem is the owner for letting this all happen. 

Here's how the morons read your post.