Speaking of Marcus Mariota, he's the exact type of young, high pedigree reclamation project we should bring in to compete w/Hurts.  It's possible he levels up ala the guy who replaced him in Tennessee Ryan Tannehill.

1 minute ago, phil77 said:

There is no way that Carson can be on this team after this offseason right?  I mean like no way?   No way Howie can't trade him even if he over played his hand and the deals are getting worse he can't have Carson and that would kill the locker room and ruin the new coaching staff. 

Probably no worse than the way Howie kills the locker room and will ruin the new staff.  He's failed more than anyone in this whole situation.

Just now, Alphagrand said:

Except Hurts got benched before the season ended as well.

Sudfeld is better than Watson. 

11 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

No need to grow impatient — up your offer, or get lost.

A 1st, a 3rd, Foles, and one of : Jaylon Johnson, David Montgomery, or Darnell Mooney

8 minutes ago, phil77 said:

There is no way that Carson can be on this team after this offseason right?  I mean like no way?   No way Howie can't trade him even if he over played his hand and the deals are getting worse he can't have Carson and that would kill the locker room and ruin the new coaching staff. 

I’m not really expecting the coaching staff to last three years at this point 

10 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Watson coming out of college had similar issues. A better prospect, but not a slam dunk, questions about accuracy and decision making. Hurts is actually faster.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/04/03/deshaun-watson-clemson-nfl-draft-scouting-report

"Teams will have to weigh the inconsistent field vision and decision-making against his size, athleticism, leadership and production. While not perfect, teams can add checks to both arm and accuracy boxes for Watson. However, discussions about whether or not his areas of improvement can be corrected will likely determine whether a team will view him as a high-upside prospect or a franchise quarterback. Watson's transition from Clemson's offense to a pro-style attack will obviously take time, but his combination of intangibles and athletic ability make him worth a first-round selection." — Lance Zierlein, NFL.com

https://www.sportscasting.com/deshaun-watsons-scouting-reports-look-unbelievably-silly-in-hindsight/

Hurts has yet to choke in the SB. 😎

Yup clearly mahomes choked. All three of these passes were dropped and two would’ve been tds 

 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup clearly mahomes choked. All three of these passes were dropped and two would’ve been tds 

 

Those would all be Carson's fault for not throwing a catchable ball.

5 hours ago, vikas83 said:

I can't think of a situation where the rumors/reports were this strong and the player wasn't moved. Can anyone?

If Wentz is still on this roster when his bonus kicks in, the whole organization should be dismantled. 

The whole organization should have already been dismantled... but Howie has pictures of Lurie.

4 hours ago, ManuManu said:

we can all safely assume we’re going to be interested in a lot of former Colts. 

Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne to start at WR.   Not sure if we should target Marshall Faulk or Edgerrin James... maybe lower the bar and just go for Joseph Addai.

 

I think Chris Hinton would be a nice OL pickup as well.

10 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

No need to grow impatient — up your offer, or get lost.

A 1st, a 3rd, Foles, and one of : Jaylon Johnson, David Montgomery, or Darnell Mooney

 

You're trading with the Bears and you want to trade for their offensive players?  Pull players from their defense if anything in a trade.  

27 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Interesting that the Eagle medical staff didn't note that, have they changed the staff since then?

I believe the staff has changed.  Regardless, that's still not a situation where the staff would be expected to take someone off the board.  They would be expected to notify the team that the player would be significantly delayed in getting up to speed.  Then you take that for what it's worth.  Maybe they noted it, maybe they didn't.

Similar situation with DK Metcalf.  His neck was a legit red flag.  In many ways, it still is.  Although he was at least ready to go and not actively injured at the time of the draft.  I doubt many teams, Eagles included, "took him off their board," as has been reported.  He just slid down those boards.  

Maurice Hurst in 2018? (Raiders).  Now THAT'S a player who was taken off boards.

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

 

You're trading with the Bears and you want to trade for their offensive players?  Pull players from their defense if anything in a trade.  

I’d take Cody whitehair if that was remotely possible on offense. I like Mooney but really he’s not anything special. They really have a lack of weapons with robinson being a FA 

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

Indy doesn't want a less costly QB, they want to pay the least for the best available QB.

And is Watson really that much better than Wentz? Watson puts up great individual statistics, they didn't seem to translate to team scoring (402, 378, 384) last three seasons. Meanwhile, Indy going from Luck to Brisset to Rivers scores 433, 361, 454 - the only pro bowl skill players? Ebron in 2018, Doyle in 2019, both TEs. Houston? Miller pro bowl, Hopkins all pro in 2018, Hopkins all pro in 2019. Eagles those three years, 367, 385, 344, Ertz pro bowl 2018, 2019. I expect an elite QB to have a bigger impact on team scoring.

Yes way better. Lol

17 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Sudfeld is better than Watson. 

I heard Sudfeld is unstoppable.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I heard Sudfeld is unstoppable.

 

9 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

You're trading with the Bears and you want to trade for their offensive players?  Pull players from their defense if anything in a trade.  

Johnson is a CB, Montgomery fits the type of inside RB to pair with Sanders, and Mooney can produce.  All can be fit in the Eagles ultra-tight cap.  Matt Nagy is a moron — doesn’t mean their entire roster should be thrown in the waste bin.

IND would need to offer #21, Okereke, Doyle, and their 2023 1st round pick.

No one has been able to answer a simple question, how can Watson put up those gaudy stats and yet Houston has a mediocre offense the last three years.

I mean the goal is team scoring, not individual stats, Balt for example had 55 offensive TDs with one pro bowl player (FB Ricard) on offense.

Lamar Jackson, Edwards and Dobbins at RB,  Marquise Brown, Snead & Boykin at WR,  Andrews at TE.

What is interesting is that Jackson had a QBR of 73.7 (7) to Watson's 70.5 (12) - maybe it's a better measure than QB rating.

Nor does OL explain this, final PFF rankings, Baltimore 16, Eagles 19, Houston 23.

56 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The biggest issue with Wentz, even when he was playing well, is accuracy.  
 

He’s a career 62.7% and in 4 of 5 years he’s been under 64%.  The top 10 QBs this season were over 67%, with the top 3 (Rodgers, Brees, Watson) all over 70%.  That might not sound like a big difference, but when you’re making $34M per season you’re expected to be closer to 70% than 60%

How much of his inaccuracy is due to the absence of good WR talent?  Hard to say, but with the sheer volume of throws to the TE the past few years I’d say the number should be a lot better.

Those 3 have had some talent to throw to

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

No one has been able to answer a simple question, how can Watson put up those gaudy stats and yet Houston has a mediocre offense the last three years.

I mean the goal is team scoring, not individual stats, Balt for example had 55 offensive TDs with one pro bowl player (FB Ricard) on offense.

Lamar Jackson, Edwards and Dobbins at RB,  Marquise Brown, Snead & Boykin at WR,  Andrews at TE.

What exactly are you trying to argue? That Lamar Jackson is elite or that scheme matters a great deal?

18 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne to start at WR.   Not sure if we should target Marshall Faulk or Edgerrin James... maybe lower the bar and just go for Joseph Addai.

 

I think Chris Hinton would be a nice OL pickup as well.

Jeff Saturday can replace Kelce 

13 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

That's got "caption this pic" written all over it.

 

"Oh, me. Oh, my.  I may have grabbed Howie's pee pee as I walked by."

13 minutes ago, austinfan said:

No one has been able to answer a simple question, how can Watson put up those gaudy stats and yet Houston has a mediocre offense the last three years.

I mean the goal is team scoring, not individual stats, Balt for example had 55 offensive TDs with one pro bowl player (FB Ricard) on offense.

Lamar Jackson, Edwards and Dobbins at RB,  Marquise Brown, Snead & Boykin at WR,  Andrews at TE.

And yet they finished ahead of the eagles all three years. 12th, 12th and 19th ppg. Meanwhile eagles 20th, 15th and 26th. 

also they scored 7 points vs. Cleveland in a freaking monsoon where the game was delayed due to lightning and it was pouring out. And their first three opponents skewed it by playing KC, Baltimore and Steelers. They averaged 19ppg. The other 13 games they averaged 25.2ppg. Also were much better offensively after O’Brien was fired. They also lost fuller for like 4-5 games 

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Jeff Saturday can replace Kelce 

I don't want him.  Our games are usually on Sunday.

15 minutes ago, austinfan said:

No one has been able to answer a simple question, how can Watson put up those gaudy stats and yet Houston has a mediocre offense the last three years.

I mean the goal is team scoring, not individual stats, Balt for example had 55 offensive TDs with one pro bowl player (FB Ricard) on offense.

Lamar Jackson, Edwards and Dobbins at RB,  Marquise Brown, Snead & Boykin at WR,  Andrews at TE.

What is interesting is that Jackson had a QBR of 73.7 (7) to Watson's 70.5 (12) - maybe it's a better measure than QB rating.

Nor does OL explain this, final PFF rankings, Baltimore 16, Eagles 19, Houston 23.

I like PFF too, but it's not the end-all-be-all. They have very misleading stats sometimes. For example, they posted how Mahomes had more time before throwing in the Super Bowl than his average for the rest of the season. Without context, you would think his OL played well, but in reality there was more time to throw in the SB because he ran around for 5 seconds after facing immediate pressure on almost every snap.

No one who watched the NFL last year, not just one team, thinks the Eagles OL ranked in the middle of the league. They were a bottom 5 unit.

4 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

I like PFF too, but it's not the end-all-be-all. They have very misleading stats sometimes. For example, they posted how Mahomes had more time before throwing in the Super Bowl than his average for the rest of the season. Without context, you would think his OL played well, but in reality there was more time to throw in the SB because he ran around for 5 seconds after facing immediate pressure on almost every snap.

No one who watched the NFL last year, not just one team, and thinks the Eagles OL ranked in the middle of the league. They were a bottom 5 unit.

PFF didn’t have Peyton Manning as the highest rated QB the week he threw 7TD’s.  End of story.