2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Ah, Florida Man has entered the Blog....

I submit my take. The forum can troll, criticize, even occasionally agree. Me vale madres.

As expected, more leaks from the Eagles to the media in an increasingly desperate attempt to drive up the price for Wentz.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/nfl-trade-rumors-texans-49ers-eagles-about-carson-wentz-deshaun-watson-jimmy-garoppolo/

 

 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Ummm most of us told you he was proven already. Which he has and is. Because he has got beat now 2 times in their last 29 games doesn’t change that. But keep on coming with hot takes that seems to be the route to go. 

Just a bot.  

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

Goedert is a TE, Pitts is a H-back, that's the combination you use in a typical 12 formation. The TE is primarily a blocker, but that allows him to often slip out uncovered b/c the defense is more focused on the run with a TE in-line and LBs will over commit and lose the TE. That's how Celek made a living.

An H-back is really a big possession WR who can block LBs in the run game, forcing teams out of the nickel against the 12, and getting the H-back lined up against LBs and SSs which is usually a gross mismatch in coverage. Get an H-back on a nickel back on an off tackle run and you'll be scraping the CB off the grass.

If Pitts is as good a route runner and hands catcher as advertised (I have no opinion), then he'll be a nightmare for defenses in the Indy scheme, and the added benefit is a 6'4 240 receiver is a tad bit harder to cover in the red zone - fast WRs have the most value between the 20s, but big targets with athleticism rule in the red zone.

You've been talking about H-Backs for months now.  IMO your definition is wrong. 

An H-back is the tweener between a Tight End and Fullback.  

21 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

You really would draft Pitts at 6 when we have Goedert finally ready to take over the #1 TE slot?  

I think Pitts is probably a better athlete and could play a slot WR or even outside at times.  I just think he's a unique prospect.  I think there's more certainty about him than a receiver like Chase.  If Waddle, Chase and Smith are off the board, he's the definition of BPA.  I thought this was a good breakdown of his attributes

 

Word salad at best. Still doing the same bs. 

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

I think Pitts is probably a better athlete and could play a slot WR or even outside at times.  I just think he's a unique prospect.  I think there's more certainty about him than a receiver like Chase.  If Waddle, Chase and Smith are off the board, he's the definition of BPA.  I thought this was a good breakdown of his attributes

 

I've been talking about Pitts for quite some time.  Still think you draft him and trade DG for a 2nd and 4th.

2 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Goedert is a TE, Pitts is a H-back, that's the combination you use in a typical 12 formation. The TE is primarily a blocker, but that allows him to often slip out uncovered b/c the defense is more focused on the run with a TE in-line and LBs will over commit and lose the TE. That's how Celek made a living.

An H-back is really a big possession WR who can block LBs in the run game, forcing teams out of the nickel against the 12, and getting the H-back lined up against LBs and SSs which is usually a gross mismatch in coverage. Get an H-back on a nickel back on an off tackle run and you'll be scraping the CB off the grass.

If Pitts is as good a route runner and hands catcher as advertised (I have no opinion), then he'll be a nightmare for defenses in the Indy scheme, and the added benefit is a 6'4 240 receiver is a tad bit harder to cover in the red zone - fast WRs have the most value between the 20s, but big targets with athleticism rule in the red zone.

IMO pitts is molded like dk metcalf who is 6-4 230 lbs 4.33 40 time , pitts 6-6 245 lbs 4.66 40 time . plus he's a phiily boy

6 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Goedert is a TE, Pitts is a H-back, that's the combination you use in a typical 12 formation. The TE is primarily a blocker, but that allows him to often slip out uncovered b/c the defense is more focused on the run with a TE in-line and LBs will over commit and lose the TE. That's how Celek made a living.

An H-back is really a big possession WR who can block LBs in the run game, forcing teams out of the nickel against the 12, and getting the H-back lined up against LBs and SSs which is usually a gross mismatch in coverage. Get an H-back on a nickel back on an off tackle run and you'll be scraping the CB off the grass.

If Pitts is as good a route runner and hands catcher as advertised (I have no opinion), then he'll be a nightmare for defenses in the Indy scheme, and the added benefit is a 6'4 240 receiver is a tad bit harder to cover in the red zone - fast WRs have the most value between the 20s, but big targets with athleticism rule in the red zone.

I think Pitts is 6'6".  

Anyone have the app and notice the past week or so there's been a lot of notifications about anything now?

7 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Goedert is a TE, Pitts is a H-back, that's the combination you use in a typical 12 formation. The TE is primarily a blocker, but that allows him to often slip out uncovered b/c the defense is more focused on the run with a TE in-line and LBs will over commit and lose the TE. That's how Celek made a living.

An H-back is really a big possession WR who can block LBs in the run game, forcing teams out of the nickel against the 12, and getting the H-back lined up against LBs and SSs which is usually a gross mismatch in coverage. Get an H-back on a nickel back on an off tackle run and you'll be scraping the CB off the grass.

If Pitts is as good a route runner and hands catcher as advertised (I have no opinion), then he'll be a nightmare for defenses in the Indy scheme, and the added benefit is a 6'4 240 receiver is a tad bit harder to cover in the red zone - fast WRs have the most value between the 20s, but big targets with athleticism rule in the red zone.

On the surface Pitts at 6 is hard to get behind, however if we are moving forward with Hurts I think a 6’6 catch radius guy makes a lot of sense if you go down to 10 or so and pick up another pick. This is a guy that makes a young QB more confident to throw into traffic and it forces the D to scheme to cover him 

How could Howie "overplay" his hand? The alternative is to take a bad offer.

He knows he's not getting a Stafford deal b/c Stafford wasn't worth what the Rams paid. But it's an anchor for negotiations (if the Rams will pay that much for a 32 year old QB with no upside, you should pay that for a 28 year old QB who has MVP upside b/c he's done it). You don't bid against yourself by starting low.

But he also knows that Indy wants to lowball him, knowing that Wentz might discourage other suitors, so he has to both convince Indy that other teams will take their chances with a disgruntled Wentz and/or he's willing to hold on to Wentz if he doesn't get a decent offer.  A 1st with the Eagles 2nd going to Indy is not a decent offer.

It's poker, if Howie blinks he'll be taken to the cleaners. His reservation price is probably a late 1st, a 3rd, and maybe another minor asset (player or later round pick).

 

4 minutes ago, IINorthStar said:

Word salad at best. Still doing the same bs. 

Since 2013, the year after we fired Reid, we have the 9th best record in the NFL, including a SB win.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/trends/win_trends/?range=yearly_since_2013

Lurie is not the problem.

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Oh great.  More drafting a TE with the 6th overall pick talk.....

I am starting to look forward to the division the pick would sow on the board.  I think we need more conflict not less. I mean is anyone really going to complain if they take a receiver at 6 or even one of the top tackles. QB is too easy and just doesn't seem likely.  Maybe DE would create a shitstorm but my money is on Pitts.  

52 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

You really would draft Pitts at 6 when we have Goedert finally ready to take over the #1 TE slot?  

Pitts is Mike Evans but even bigger and probably even faster.

Pitts isn’t just a TE

Pitts is an inch taller, 10lbs heavier, and probably faster than Mike Evans, also a better route runner coming out, and just turned 20. He had 0 drops, lined up in line, the slot, and out wide, and beat everyone at every spot.

He is easily a top 10 WR talent alone and the best match-up nightmare I've seen coming out of the draft in a very long time

49 minutes ago, RLC said:

I don't want to be on the EMB if we draft Pitts at 6.

I'm not gonna hate it at all. Not my first or even second option but I like the player. Unlike when we made the Reagor pick. I straight up hated that selection. 

11 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I've been talking about Pitts for quite some time.  Still think you draft him and trade DG for a 2nd and 4th.

I don't see the need to trade Goedert but if they could a 2nd and 4th for him that would be worth it.  

8 minutes ago, RLC said:

Since 2013, the year after we fired Reid, we have the 9th best record in the NFL, including a SB win.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/trends/win_trends/?range=yearly_since_2013

Lurie is not the problem.

Since 2010 the eagles are the 12th best record. Since 2018 they are 20th. since 2016 they are 13th. But let’s randomly choose 2013 even though howie had his power struggle prior to that. And he came back in 2016. 

53 minutes ago, RLC said:

I don't want to be on the EMB if we draft Pitts at 6.

I do and it will be glorious

4 minutes ago, mattmcginley7 said:

Pitts is an inch taller, 10lbs heavier, and probably faster than Mike Evans, also a better route runner coming out, and just turned 20. He had 0 drops, lined up in line, the slot, and out wide, and beat everyone at every spot.

He is easily a top 10 WR talent alone and the best match-up nightmare I've seen coming out of the draft in a very long time

I'm starting to believe this pick won't create enough controversy.  

Just now, NCiggles said:

I'm starting to believe this pick won't create enough controversy.  

Definitely going to be a kicker cause we need a cheap backup kicker to Elliott. 

7 minutes ago, RLC said:

Since 2013, the year after we fired Reid, we have the 9th best record in the NFL, including a SB win.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/trends/win_trends/?range=yearly_since_2013

Lurie is not the problem.

That may be true but its also a cherry pick. He is part of the problem if he refuses to fire Howie.  Or at least punish the guy.  Theres lack of accountability. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Since 2010 the eagles are the 12th best record. Since 2018 they are 20th. since 2016 they are 13th. But let’s randomly choose 2013 

If this is a discussion about Lurie, his worse trait is his belief in Roseman at this point.  Much like he listened to Banner for too long on spending money in FA for receivers and frankly on not giving TO more money when he was complaining about his contract.