1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Take it FWIW

 

Sorry guys I'm taking my Wentz and going home

27 minutes ago, austinfan said:

But it wasn't dismal, mediocre since 2016 yes, but also 10 picks in two years and only 1st rd pick does make your drafting look worse.

Eagles may have 10+ starters next year out of his drafts from 2016-2020:

Hurts/Wentz at QB, Sanders RB, Reagor WR, Goedert TE, Dillard, Mailata, Seumalo, maybe Driscoll OL,

Barnett, maybe Sweat at DE, maybe Bradley/Taylor at WLB, maybe Mills, Wallace DB

Draft picks possibly starting for other teams next year:  [Wentz], Vaitai, Jones, Douglas

 

 

Hurts/wentz-fine

sanders— fine

reagor— starting by default because we don’t have anyone else and spent a first on him. he really showed little to justify he should be a starter as a rookie. Maybe he is a long term but that’s yet to be proven  

goedert— fine

dillatd/mailata— both aren’t starting as lane is at RT. So one is a bench player and the other starts. Both aren’t starting unless injury occurs and i don’t consider that being a bonafide starter. So one not both  

seumalo—fine  

Driscoll— backup as lane, Brooks, seumalo are starting. Only a starter of kelce retires otherwise backup. Even so they might draft someone or sign someone who starts over him 

Barnett— might not even be here so there’s that. I’ll even give you him

sweat— is a rotational DE. He might not even hold up as a starter. That’s not proven as full time starter 

Bradley/Taylor— only starting cause your lb unit is so atrocious. Any other team they are backups or PS 

mills— FA so again might not be back  

Wallace— couldn’t even get on the field as a rookie but we are now anointing him as a starter. 

no one cares if guys start elsewhere that doesn’t help the eagles. Also vaitai shouldn’t be starting. Lions made a mistake giving him that deal. and they might have just been a bad scheme fit drafted by howie aka douglas. Jones starts due to a horrific jags secondary and guess what? He got hurt again 

so you really have just 6 legitimate starters and 1 who may be here. 2 by default not drafting well haven’t actually proven worthy to be a nfl caliber starter. There’s a chance if/when mills, JJAW, Gerry, wentz, pryor are cut or leave only 15 of 36 draft picks remain on this roster from 2016 and some are not that good 

24 minutes ago, greend said:

I agree

I don’t. 

 

Just now, ManuManu said:

 

I would take a 2021 2nd and 2022 1st and RUN

41 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I really hope we aren't seeing the NFL turn in to the NBA.

Meh - Wilson's comments were nothing radical.  I mean he wants to be involved in helping the team with personnel decisions.  There's nothing new about that comment.  He also said he wants to get hit less and get sacked less.  He also said part of that was on him.  I mean do we just want athletes to say nothing or should they answer questions they are asked.  

10 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Pretty sure the deal would be done by now if that was offered

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Pretty sure the deal would be done by now if that was offered

Just because it hasn't been offered, doesn't mean that's not what it might end up to be.

11 minutes ago, RLC said:

I would take a 2021 2nd and 2022 1st and RUN

Throw in a couple later round picks, say a 5th and 6th, we need numbers as well as quality in the next two drafts.

2 minutes ago, Infam said:

Just because it hasn't been offered, doesn't mean that's not what it might end up to be.

Well, yea. I was just saying if it was offered, it would probably be done by now.

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Meh - Wilson's comments were nothing radical.  I mean he wants to be involved in helping the team with personnel decisions.  There's nothing new about that comment.  He also said he wants to get hit less and get sacked less.  He also said part of that was on him.  I mean do we just want athletes to say nothing or should they answer questions they are asked.  

Honestly, I want players to talk to the organizations and keep that crap in house. 

Just trade Wentz, #6, and a conditional 2nd next year and move up to grab the one QB that will improve this team from day 1. Dreams come true sometimes.

36 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

 

Cause he is the one who wants out 

Just now, eaglesflyers#1 said:

Just trade Wentz, #6, and a conditional 2nd next year and move up to grab the one QB that will improve this team from day 1.

But which one. Odds are two of the three top QBs will be worse than Wentz.

1 minute ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Cause he is the one who wants out 

Maybe part of the reason he wants out has to do with that.

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

But which one. Odds are two of the three top QBs will be worse than Wentz.

I was referring to #1 overall for TLaw

3 minutes ago, eaglesflyers#1 said:

Just trade Wentz, #6, and a conditional 2nd next year and move up to grab the one QB that will improve this team from day 1. Dreams come true sometimes.

6 and a conditional  wont get you to first overall 

1 minute ago, eaglesflyers#1 said:

I was referring to #1 overall for TLaw

Good luck trying to get the jags to accept that deal

6 minutes ago, eaglesflyers#1 said:

Just trade Wentz, #6, and a conditional 2nd next year and move up to grab the one QB that will improve this team from day 1. Dreams come true sometimes.

This is the dumb move I thought they would do anyway. Waste alot of draft capital on a treadmill like move.

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

dillatd/mailata— both aren’t starting as lane is at RT. So one is a bench player and the other starts. Both aren’t starting unless injury occurs and i don’t consider that being a bonafide starter. So one not both  

Both are starter quality, Dillard would have started at LT, and if Lane is healthy, he's the best RT in the NFL, so if you're going to knock a pick for starting by default, credit a pick for being starter quality but blocked by a great player.

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Driscoll— backup as lane, Brooks, seumalo are starting. Only a starter of kelce retires otherwise backup. Even so they might draft someone or sign someone who starts over him 

Same with Driscoll, he was a decent RT, though more suited to OG, he's got solid technique, good size and athleticism, he could start for most teams. Just a matter of time before he starts here, meanwhile Pryor has started, but we know he's not starter material.

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Bradley/Taylor— only starting cause your lb unit is so atrocious. Any other team they are backups or PS 

Most LBs drafted after the 2nd rd don't start as rookies, but both have the athleticism to have a shot this season or next. Why I say "maybe."

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

mills— FA so again might not be back  

Still could start for most cover 2 teams, you judge a draft pick by the player, not the opportunity

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Wallace— couldn’t even get on the field as a rookie but we are now anointing him as a starter. 

That's why he's in the "maybe" category, will probably end up starting somewhere, does he fit Gannon's scheme?

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

no one cares if guys start elsewhere that doesn’t help the eagles.

If you're judging drafting, starting elsewhere does matter, Schwartz had a real problem developing DBs, and probably communicating what he wanted to the personnel people. I think Gannon is more focused and certainly better at developing DBs. Long list of DBs who went elsewhere and succeeded. Vaitai is starter quality, not top end, but he was a 5th rd pick.

Keeping Wentz and getting him the talent he needs to succeed will be difficult.

Not because we have no cap room and Howie Roseman sucks at drafting. Because it's hard to find 15 foot human beings who Wentz won't be able to overthrow.

7 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

6 and a conditional  wont get you to first overall 

Plus Wentz. Who knows, crazier things have happened.

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Both are starter quality, Dillard would have started at LT, and if Lane is healthy, he's the best RT in the NFL, so if you're going to knock a pick for starting by default, credit a pick for being starter quality but blocked by a great player.

Same with Driscoll, he was a decent RT, though more suited to OG, he's got solid technique, good size and athleticism, he could start for most teams. Just a matter of time before he starts here, meanwhile Pryor has started, but we know he's not starter material.

Most LBs drafted after the 2nd rd don't start as rookies, but both have the athleticism to have a shot this season or next. Why I say "maybe."

Still could start for most cover 2 teams, you judge a draft pick by the player, not the opportunity

That's why he's in the "maybe" category, will probably end up starting somewhere, does he fit Gannon's scheme?

If you're judging drafting, starting elsewhere does matter, Schwartz had a real problem developing DBs, and probably communicating what he wanted to the personnel people. I think Gannon is more focused and certainly better at developing DBs. Long list of DBs who went elsewhere and succeeded. Vaitai is starter quality, not top end, but he was a 5th rd pick.

Dillard was the starter at LT by default and was NOT having a good camp before his injury.  He's shown nothing to say he is the answer at LT.  We LUCKED in to Mailata with all of the other injuries.  If the Eagles had their way he wouldn't have seen the field last year.

What on Earth are you smoking that tells you Driscoll could start at guard for most NFL teams?  

If it weren't for Hurts and Taylor, Wallace would be the biggest bust of the draft.  He showed nothing that tells me he should have any role in 2021 outside of the fact that they need someone to play.

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Keeping Wentz and getting him the talent he needs to succeed will be difficult.

Not because we have no cap room and Howie Roseman sucks at drafting. Because it's hard to find 15 foot human beings who Wentz won't be able to overthrow.

Like this backer class , big fan of Collins and Davis  ,right ,there with Davis would be McGrone  , he is a much more in control , Kwon Alexander.