Howie has been pretty good with QB trades. Got a 2nd for an over the hill McNabb, a second and DRC for a nobody Kolb, and then the Bradford trade. 

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

I think Hargrave will prove to have been a good acquisition

 

He might be OK but much like Slay, by the time this team is ready to compete again his contract is up and he'll be on the other side of 30.  Don't hate the player but I hated the signing.  The last thing the Eagles needed at the time was another high priced defensive tackle.  I know there were questions about Malik Jackson's health but the Eagles have also shown they get pretty good production out of their UDFA DT's that they bring on board.  

That money could have gone towards oh I dunno, Robbie Anderson, a FA corner to pair with Slay rather than rolling with Maddox or if they were forward thinking they could have saved even more to roll over this year when they are in cap hell. 

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Last I saw of it she was planning to sue the company because it didn't explicitly state that it's not hair product lol

i bet her and hpenis get gluey

As far as drafting WRs, note that in Indy they inherited Hilton, developed Pascal (UDFA, 6'2 207), drafted Pittman in the 2nd rd (6'4 223), Patmon in the 6th rd (6'4 225). They brought over Marcus Johnson (6'1 207) from our PS.  Pascal, Pittman and Patmon all run in the 4.5s.

Alie-Cox was a basketball player they converted to TE 6'5 262, 4.75. Doyle 6'5 246, 4.86. And our ole buddy, Trevor Burton. They signed Eric Ebron in 2018, who ran a 4.50 in 2014 combine at 6'4 250.

So guesswork.

1) Siri likes big WRs, a fast one or two to keep safeties honest, but big guys to run slants and crossing routes and moves the chains. That bodes well for Fulgham and JJAW, they'll at least get a long look in camp. With Reagor, Watkins and Hightower on board, Smith would be less attractive than Chase at #6, but they might be happy to take more big bodies later in the draft at WR and use that pick at another position. Ward may be in trouble if Siri wants a big body in the slot.

2) Indy used a combination of TEs and H-backs, so if Ertz were traded, Pitts would fit right in, but so would projects like Wilson/Butler/Jackson. Look for more late rd/UDFA projects as well.

3) Indy stresses the OL, drafted OL in the 1st and 2nd rounds in 2018 when Reich arrived in town. So depending on medical reports on Brooks and Lane, using a high pick on the OL is not out of the question.

4) Indy traded a 1st for Buckner, Gannon will probably make DL a priority, but with Graham/Cox/Hargrave, I doubt they'd draft high this year, but third day depth is a good bet

5) Gannon likes "Seattle" type CBs, long guys with average speed with deep help, Mills and Jacquet are the only ones that fit that mold on the roster, look for a shakeup.

6) Indy seems to value LBs more in their defense than Schwartz did, so drafting in an athletic 3 down guy is a real possibility

 

24 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

 

Lady luck dropped that one right into Howie's lap. 

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Lady luck dropped that one right into Howie's lap. 

LMAO

Curious to see the answers who would you say is the eagles best draft pick over the last 5 years? 

wentz— drafted to be the franchise QB for the next decade and being dealt 

sanders— good running back who has some nagging injuries throughout the 2 years

goedert— good tight end who also has been hit with the injury bug at times

mailata— starting to look like a future starting left tackle 

jalen mills— started every year he’s been here

seumalo— above average starting left tackle in the league 

barnett— solid starter who may or may not be here long term 

Vaitai— solid swing tackle

sweat— good rotational DE might be able to be a starter if he can hold up which is unknown 

I still can’t get over Howie Roseman has a Carson Wentz fathead in his office. What a f’ing dork 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I still can’t get over Howie Roseman has a Carson Wentz fathead in his office. What a f’ing dork 

In fairness he probably doesn’t have it up anymore 

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Curious to see the answers who would you say is the eagles best draft pick over the last 5 years? 

wentz— drafted to be the franchise QB for the next decade and being dealt 

sanders— good running back who has some nagging injuries throughout the 2 years

goedert— good tight end who also has been hit with the injury bug at times

mailata— starting to look like a future starting left tackle 

jalen mills— started every year he’s been here

seumalo— above average starting left tackle in the league 

barnett— solid starter who may or may not be here long term 

Vaitai— solid swing tackle

sweat— good rotational DE might be able to be a starter if he can hold up which is unknown 

Mailata was drafted with no expectations other than being a role player at some point.

Unless he regresses mightily he's much more than that.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Curious to see the answers who would you say is the eagles best draft pick over the last 5 years? 

wentz— drafted to be the franchise QB for the next decade and being dealt 

sanders— good running back who has some nagging injuries throughout the 2 years

goedert— good tight end who also has been hit with the injury bug at times

mailata— starting to look like a future starting left tackle 

jalen mills— started every year he’s been here

seumalo— above average left tackle in the league 

barnett— solid starter who may or may not be here long term 

Vaitai— solid swing tackle

sweat— good rotational DE might be able to be a starter if he can hold up which is unknown 

Mailata - potential all pro tackle when he grows up

Sanders - off sophomore season but explosive runner who was a premier receiving back as a rookie

Wentz - key competent of SB team, solid two seasons after that, think last year was a fluke, will be solid pocket QB for 5-10 years in the right situation

Godert - true two way threat at TE, plus blocker who has good receiving skills

Dillard - was consensus top 20 pick who fell, needed a year to add strength, was fine at LT, struggled when put at RT without reps

Hurts - has all the intangibles, great athlete, average arm but nice touch, has a real chance to excel with Siri, wouldn't fit some offenses, doesn't hat a gun

Driscoll - surprised me at RT, arms too short to stay there, but showed athleticism and technique, falloff to Pryor was huge, will be starting OG

Barnett - solid middle of the road DE, but hasn't taken the next step, durability has been an issue

Reagor - dinged up as a rookie and no off-season, showed real separation ability but needs hard coaching

Mills - big CB who didn't look out of place at SS, could blossom in a situation where he gets deep help

Sweat - finally past his severe injury, could be a serious pass rush threat down the road

Vaitai - solid swing OT who's a marginal long-term starter

Douglas - big CB who needed to be in a similar system as Mills, gee, now we have a DC who runs that sort of scheme, grrrr

 

 

I saw a tweet from a Carolina beat reporter ranking in importance the Panthers’ FAs-to-be.

Rasul Douglas was 13th. 

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

Wallace, Malik were never injured until they came here, Darby started 14 and 15 games, 16 in Washington, Hicks couldn't stay healthy, started 16 games in Dallas. Dillard! Brooks missed more games to anxiety than injury until last year. Driscoll gets injured as soon as he starts. I mean it has been a bit ridiculous. Ertz goes down after years of durability. And so on.

DeSean getting injured wasn't surprising, but Hilton got injured in 2019 (same size) and played 15 games last year. Lane, bad luck with the ankle.

Hargrave is a solid pickup, only 28 next year and he's made the transition from 2 gap to 1 gap DT, fortunately, Gannon will probably bring the Indy 4-3 with him.

Get used to having Howie around the next three years, if they're not competitive in 2023 Lurie will make a change, but not before then.

I didn't say Jackson was injury prone, i said he was a waste of money at a position of strength (DL).

Darby was terrible here, who cares how many games he started?

Also don't care how good hargrave is, why would you throw a ton of money AT YET ANOTHER DT. It was a terrible move for a team that already had a ton of money invested in the position.

Howie is not last 3 more years, that's a ridiculous statement given the amount of animosity towards the org right now by the fanbase.

39 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Curious to see the answers who would you say is the eagles best draft pick over the last 5 years? 

wentz— drafted to be the franchise QB for the next decade and being dealt 

sanders— good running back who has some nagging injuries throughout the 2 years

goedert— good tight end who also has been hit with the injury bug at times

mailata— starting to look like a future starting left tackle 

jalen mills— started every year he’s been here

seumalo— above average starting left tackle in the league 

barnett— solid starter who may or may not be here long term 

Vaitai— solid swing tackle

sweat— good rotational DE might be able to be a starter if he can hold up which is unknown 

It’s hard to make a case for anyone outside of Mailata. A potential all-pro type of player for a 7th round pick? Can’t beat that. 

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I saw a tweet from a Carolina beat reporter ranking in importance the Panthers’ FAs-to-be.

Rasul Douglas was 13th. 

I could actually see Howie bringing him back under Gannon with our cap constraints 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I could actually see Howie bringing him back under Gannon with our cap constraints 

Douglas should always have played in a cover 2 scheme.

2 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

It’s hard to make a case for anyone outside of Mailata. A potential all-pro type of player for a 7th round pick? Can’t beat that. 

We drafted an MVP-caliber QB who helped us to a SB. No matter how quickly he burned out, he’s the easy pick. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

We drafted an MVP-caliber QB who helped us to a SB. No matter how quickly he burned out, he’s the easy pick. 

I'm still in disbelief that it has reached this point this quickly.   Just surreal.

9 minutes ago, devpool said:

I didn't say Jackson was injury prone, i said he was a waste of money at a position of strength (DL).

Darby was terrible here, who cares how many games he started?

Also don't care how good hargrave is, why would you throw a ton of money AT YET ANOTHER DT. It was a terrible move for a team that already had a ton of money invested in the position.

Howie is not last 3 more years, that's a ridiculous statement given the amount of animosity towards the org right now by the fanbase.

DT wasn't a position of strength b/c Jerrigan hurt his neck and wasn't the same after that.

Darby was much better when healthy, and how much of his struggles were bad coaching, seems he was much better in Washington

Hargrave was due to Malik's injury (dominoes), the back seven was so bad if you can't get pressure up the middle, just raise the white flag.

Howie will get a chance to preside over the rebuild, and it'll take three years to know if he's successful - Lurie ignores fanbase, win and they'll adore you, bring in a "football guy" and lose and you'll hear the exact same crap.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I could actually see Howie bringing him back under Gannon with our cap constraints 

This is why I blame coaching, Maddox gets moved outside, Douglas and MIlls left on an island, Chandon Sullivan never gets a real shot while others do.

LBs and secondary have been a mess the last couple years. Gerry regressed as a cover LB despite being a former safety.

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

DT wasn't a position of strength b/c Jerrigan hurt his neck and wasn't the same after that.

Darby was much better when healthy, and how much of his struggles were bad coaching, seems he was much better in Washington

Hargrave was due to Malik's injury (dominoes), the back seven was so bad if you can't get pressure up the middle, just raise the white flag.

Howie will get a chance to preside over the rebuild, and it'll take three years to know if he's successful - Lurie ignores fanbase, win and they'll adore you, bring in a "football guy" and lose and you'll hear the exact same crap.

He's been very unsuccessful by every measure over the last three years... why not give three more years to screw up some more.  The good news is that he'll have a really tough time being as bad over the next 3 years as he's been over the previous 3.

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'm still in disbelief that it has reached this point this quickly.   Just surreal.

Yup. 

55 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Curious to see the answers who would you say is the eagles best draft pick over the last 5 years? 

wentz— drafted to be the franchise QB for the next decade and being dealt 

sanders— good running back who has some nagging injuries throughout the 2 years

goedert— good tight end who also has been hit with the injury bug at times

mailata— starting to look like a future starting left tackle 

jalen mills— started every year he’s been here

seumalo— above average starting left tackle in the league 

barnett— solid starter who may or may not be here long term 

Vaitai— solid swing tackle

sweat— good rotational DE might be able to be a starter if he can hold up which is unknown 

bang for your buck....Mailata

most talented....Sanders

Nah, after 2018, it was obvious the day of reckoning was coming, Howie wasted some of Jeff's money, but a rebuild was inevitable. Eagles got lucky by tanking, 4-11-1 is far better than 7-9 and picking #15, #47 and #79. As far as Wentz, Doug was kept around a year too long and he left him out to dry, but this may also reflect a problem with small college QBs, if you play for Alabama or Clemson et al, you're used to pressure, blame and fans. In that sense, Hurts as a rookie was more prepared for adversity than Wentz in his fifth season, Hurts had already ridden the roller coaster (starter, benched, starter in big game, starter for another premier program).

Even if you have the cap room, you don't want to add FAs until the end of the rebuild b/c for most players the first three years of a new deal are their best years (if you're signing 26-27 year olds, if you're signing 30 year old players it should only be to 1-2 year deals). The winter of 2023 is when Howie should go shopping, and finish the winter of 2024. Next two years are about drafting, auditioning and teaching.

Mailata, considering his upside, inexperience, and age, has a chance to be the best of the bunch. Dude is only 23, is barely 3 years into playing football at any level, and is already an above average LT.