5 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

It's supposed to show the Cardinals coaches house who only has 5 wins pimped out like a Mack Daddy and Bill Belichick just sitting in the house in a dining room that looks like it's from the 80s.

However if I'm correct looking at that picture that house is actually Sean mcvay's house. They showed that one time on ballers and that was the exact house that I see in that picture.

It was Kingsburys.

https://www.veranda.com/decorating-ideas/a32276170/inside-kliff-kingsbury-arizona-home/

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think The thing that kills Zach Ertz is playing in the era with Travis Kelce, George Kittle and Gronkowski. All three of those guys are the complete tight end that gives you that physicality as a blocker and are great at receiving as well. When you look at those three I think people expected Zach Ertz to play like that and be like that. That’s just not the type of player he is. Dallas Goedert in terms of their physicality and be able to receive is closer to them than the type of player Zach Ertz models his game after. I don’t think Dallas Goedert ever gets to that type of production or value that those 3 tight ends have but his game is set up similarly to what people Love about those three

Ertz was a great 2nd round pick.  He compares favorably to Jason Witten (who maybe Reid should have taken over LJ Smith).  He has been overshadowed by Kelce, Kittle and Gronk.  I do think he's been a bit underrated by our fanbase.  He has been a very good player for a number of years.  He made 2 of the biggest catches in franchise history.  He's not flashy but he's highly effective as a route runner and receiver.  

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Ertz was a great 2nd round pick.  He compares favorably to Jason Witten (who maybe Reid should have taken over LJ Smith).  He has been overshadowed by Kelce, Kittle and Gronk.  I do think he's been a bit underrated by our fanbase.  He has been a very good player for a number of years.  He made 2 of the biggest catches in franchise history.  He's not flashy but he's highly effective as a route runner and receiver.  

Oh for sure those three overshadow him. I think that’s the largest reason why a lot of the Eagles fan base are as hard on him as they are. Because he’s not one of those three. He still a very very good tight end. he’s actually been one of their best pics in the last 10 years. Only players i would say are better draft picks (in terms of longevity and production on the field for the eagles) going back to 2010 would be cox, Kelce, Graham and lane. 

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

You're a terrible person.  

I know...

Btw, when I say I dont like him, I mean as a player.  Obviously hes a good dude off the field.

I'm starting to think Chase wont be at #6.  Obviously Miami could take him.  Cincy could as well if they move on from AJ Green.  He played with Burrow at LSU.  Also heard on the radio the Jets could take him as well.  If they decide to keep Darnold it only makes sense to surround him with WRs.

The worst case scenario is that the 5 players you like the most are gone at #5.  That's because you think they are the 5 best players with the most demand.  Be it Sewell/Chase, or a QB so we can trade back.

That also makes it the most likely scenario.  You have to assume the 3 QBs, Sewell, and Chase are gone.  It's easy to act on a pleasant surprise.  They just need to know who they plan on taking at #6 when those guys aren't available.

10 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I'm starting to think Chase wont be at #6.  Obviously Miami could take him.  Cincy could as well if they move on from AJ Green.  He played with Burrow at LSU.  Also heard on the radio the Jets could take him as well.  If they decide to keep Darnold it only makes sense to surround him with WRs.

Chase going 2nd overall would be wild. That's would be a major shakeup in the draft. 

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The worst case scenario is that the 5 players you like the most are gone at #5.  That's because you think they are the 5 best players with the most demand.  Be it Sewell/Chase, or a QB so we can trade back.

That also makes it the most likely scenario.  You have to assume the 3 QBs, Sewell, and Chase are gone.  It's easy to act on a pleasant surprise.  They just need to know who they plan on taking at #6 when those guys aren't available.

If 3 quarterbacks, Sewell and chase are all off the board ans im forced to pick at 6 without trading out in likely taking surtain at the moment. Then again also kind of depends on what the heck happens at QB. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Chase going 2nd overall would be wild. 

I think so too. I know Adam schefter put out there that the Jets were going to make a big trade this off-season. He said it was either going to be trading Sam Darnold or trading the number two overall pick to get more picks to build around Sam Darnold. If they stay at two and are going with Sam Darnold I would be surprised if Joe Douglas does not go Sewell even with becton. They’d have arguably the best set of young bookend tackles in the league for the next decade. 

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The worst case scenario is that the 5 players you like the most are gone at #5.  That's because you think they are the 5 best players with the most demand.  Be it Sewell/Chase, or a QB so we can trade back.

That also makes it the most likely scenario.  You have to assume the 3 QBs, Sewell, and Chase are gone.  It's easy to act on a pleasant surprise.  They just need to know who they plan on taking at #6 when those guys aren't available.

 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Chase going 2nd overall would be wild. That's would be a major shakeup in the draft. 

I think you guys are really discounting the fact that this guy hasn’t played football in over a year. 

8 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I'm starting to think Chase wont be at #6.  Obviously Miami could take him.  Cincy could as well if they move on from AJ Green.  He played with Burrow at LSU.  Also heard on the radio the Jets could take him as well.  If they decide to keep Darnold it only makes sense to surround him with WRs.

I think the Bengals will go OT and the Dolphins will go WR but I'm not sure.  He's likely gone if 3 teams don't pick QB ahead of the Eagles.  I think Smith would still be a good pick.  I would rather they go CB if Chase is not available.  

2 minutes ago, wtfcares said:

 

I think you guys are really discounting the fact that this guy hasn’t played football in over a year. 

I am not on the Chase bandwagon and think he's overvalued.  

But the consensus top 5 is QBx3, Sewell, Chase.  So I think the Eagles better prepare what to do in that scenario.  

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think so too. I know Adam schefter put out there that the Jets were going to make a big tree this off-season. He said it was either going to be trading Sam Darnold or trading the number two overall pick to get more picks to build around Sam Darnold. If they stay at two and are going with Sam Darnold I would be surprised if Joe Douglas does not go Sewell 

Didnt they just take Mekhi Becton?  

If they're going to keep Darnold they need to surround him with playmakers at some point.

But at this point who knows what could happen.

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

If one of the 3 QB's are on the board.  I am talking to Denver/Carolina about a trade down.  Maybe still get Surtain and pick up a 2nd or a 3rd.  That would be ideal.  

I’m 100% with you on that. I’m not so sure Zach Wilson makes it past Atlanta at 4. I kind of think some team is going to jump Atlanta to try to get into the third position to take Zack Wilson. I firmly believe Lawrence and Fields are going to go one and two. I don’t know if the Jets are going to stay at two because they could go with Sam Darnold and try to get a plethora of picks and just build around them but whoever trades into two is likely taking a QB which is likely fields.

I still think you could trade back you just need one of those teams sitting behind you to really love trey lance. I could see the Panthers realistically loving him and think he’s not ready but he gets to sit behind Teddy Bridgewater until they believe he’s ready to go

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Again I never said he didn’t max out. All I said was he was an average starting linebacker in the league.  I only made the comparison to Villanueva because he also never started in till later in his career so i don’t think using age he became a starter is a good argument. That doesn’t mean I think he’s going to be as good as Villanueva. Frankly I don’t think he’s gonna be better than what he was this year which is an average starting linebacker  

And can you show me where I said he deserves an award for being an average starting linebacker? I never said that’s a great accomplishment. All I said was he was an average starting linebacker in the nfl with his play this year and his statistics kind of bare that out with his tape. I don’t remotely think i said he was going to progress and become great or a pro bowler 

Frankly I think they should upgrade the entire position. But I don’t think they have enough money or draft picks to do it. I think Singleton is fine as a starter because I think he’s an average starter for 2021 by league standards. Long-term I would love for them to upgrade over him and also upgrade over TJ Edwards

As I said, for 2021, sure.  2022, probably, because we've got nothing better, and limited assets.   But, I'm pretty sure he's a below average starter (which is what I took issue with), not an average starter, but we over evaluate our players when we are replacing dreck with barely competent.  Hence the term, Greg Ward Syndrome.   Greg Ward isn't an average WR in the NFL... but he's the best we have.  So some people are content with that.  Just goes to show how low our standards have fallen as a collective.   WR > LB, so they need to fix that mess first with the limited resources available, but LB is not 'ok'... its just been upgraded to merely functional.

 

BTW... I never said that you said he deserves an award... so I'm not sure why I'd have to show you where you said it.  

16 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Didnt they just take Mekhi Becton?  

If they're going to keep Darnold they need to surround him with playmakers at some point.

But at this point who knows what could happen.

They did but that offensive line is still not good. I’m fine having becton at LT and Sewell at RT. Both on cheap rookie contracts. That makes their line much better and keeps darnold upright. You need a good left tackle and you need a good right tackle. The Eagles have been fortunate that They’ve Had lane Johnson and Jason peters for the amount of years they’ve had. Ditto with tra Thomas and John Runyan. 

5 minutes ago, wtfcares said:

 

I think you guys are really discounting the fact that this guy hasn’t played football in over a year. 

Maybe but it's not like he's been injured.  It's more like he's skipping a bowl game. He could drop if he tests unexpectedly poorly or appears to be out of shape.  

Greg Ward is an average slot WR, he's not a outside WR and shouldn't be compared to such.

The most important thing in building a team is getting at least average starters at all positions, then upgrading as many spots as you can.

Focusing on getting a few stars without building a team is why so many teams pick in the top ten year after year, they have a few stars, have to overpay to keep them, and never build a team b/c they think stars are all that matter. And the stars end up running the show.

We saw with Pryor, with Gerry, with Jacquet, what happens when you're forced to start replacement level players.

45 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

It's supposed to show the Cardinals coaches house who only has 5 wins pimped out like a Mack Daddy and Bill Belichick just sitting in the house in a dining room that looks like it's from the 80s.

However if I'm correct looking at that picture that house is actually Sean mcvay's house. They showed that one time on ballers and that was the exact house that I see in that picture.

Thanks

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Are you done?

Look up and see if I said anything if you feel like it. 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

As I said, for 2021, sure.  2022, probably, because we've got nothing better, and limited assets.   But, I'm pretty sure he's a below average starter (which is what I took issue with), not an average starter, but we over evaluate our players when we are replacing dreck with barely competent.  Hence the term, Greg Ward Syndrome.   Greg Ward isn't an average WR in the NFL... but he's the best we have.  So some people are content with that.  Just goes to show how low our standards have fallen as a collective.   WR > LB, so they need to fix that mess first with the limited resources available, but LB is not 'ok'... its just been upgraded to merely functional.

I’d have to go look around the league at all the linebackers to come up with below average or average. Frankly I think the jump from below average to average there’s less of a significant jump then it is going from average to above average and then from above average to good.

1 hour ago, hoosierdaddy said:

Unpopular opinion: I think I'm over Zach Ertz crying.

I was never not over it

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d have to go look around the league at all the linebackers to come up with below average or average. Frankly I think the jump from below average to average there’s less of a significant jump then it is going from average to above average and then from above average to good.

Measure it how ever you want.  To me, Alex Singleton is the Greg Ward of LBs. 

43 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Ertz was a great 2nd round pick.  He compares favorably to Jason Witten (who maybe Reid should have taken over LJ Smith).  He has been overshadowed by Kelce, Kittle and Gronk.  I do think he's been a bit underrated by our fanbase.  He has been a very good player for a number of years.  He made 2 of the biggest catches in franchise history.  He's not flashy but he's highly effective as a route runner and receiver.  

He's a great receiving TE.  Fans don't like him because he's not a 1940s tough TE knocking guys down and dragging them with him into the end zone.  People loved Celek and he didn't have the receiving production Ertz did.  Ertz is finesse and falls down almost every time he makes a catch, and it's a running joke about him with YAC.  People like Goedert more because he's got a more well rounded TE skill set including blocking, more physical and getting YAC.  

We once had LJ Smith as the TE and it was embarrassing.  Having said that, Ertz is done here.  The contract dispute and the bad year, plus having Goedert means they're probably going to trade him.