10 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

One bad year and you want him gone.  Good choice.  But we all know there is more to it than that.  Don't we....

Well, Wentz is already 28.  It’s not like a QB can play at an NFL level into their 30s ...... or 40s ..... is it?

Some folks have already turned their back on and want to discard a player after one season at a position where he could have at least another 10 years left — AND let’s eat $34M in dead money while we do it.

There is unquestionably an agenda behind their thinking 

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Those people are morons.  Foles has shown what he is since he's left Philly.  

And sadly they still believe he’s come here and be our savior. Legitimately listening to wip and 975 the last couple days. Had at least 12 calls like that. 

11 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Oh definitely is. I think foles factors into some of that. Some people due to his personality/North Dakota-ness/lifestyle. I think some were just never fans of his to begin with so when he had a really down year were ready to pounce. I also think there’s some that didn’t like the way he didn’t talk but that is just more of a add on to other reasons. With all that when he didn’t play well there was more fuel tk add to the fire. 

This.  x1000.  2017 is far enough from our minds that they are able to discredit it all together.  My guess is that his rally last year where he carried the little Giants to the playoffs probably made those same people really upset.  Now they are all over the place, emerging at every turn ready to burn him to the ground.  

Not sure what the big deal is.  If the Eagles don't get an acceptable offer for Wentz, he stays and competes for the starting QB position in camp.   And a lot can happen even after camp/pre-season starts.  A starting QB could go down somewhere and all of a sudden you have a team willing to pony up a 1st round pick, maybe more. 

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

And all that will accomplish is a media circus and a disgruntled high profile player and all the drama that comes with it for a first year HC. 

I’d feel bad for Sirianni, but if it’s one more black eye on Howie, then so be it. 

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Not sure what the big deal is.  If the Eagles don't get an acceptable offer for Wentz, he stays and competes for the starting QB position in camp.   And a lot can happen even after camp/pre-season starts.  A starting QB could go down somewhere and all of a sudden you have a team willing to pony up a 1st round pick, maybe more. 

Sam Bradford anyone?

7 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

I’d feel bad for Sirianni, but if it’s one more black eye on Howie, then so be it. 

 

If a tree falls in the woods but one one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? 

Does Howie actually get any black eyes for his terrible job at GM if the owner is so head over heals for him that he can't possibly see his GM do any wrong ever? 

40 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

I think he’s an below average QB who happens to play for my team. So I want him gone. 

Enough about Hurts, he asked about Wentz

25 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think there’s a portion of the fan base that it goes back to wanting to keep foles over wentz. so they were hoping this day would come.

I tend to agree with this. Even some of the replies in here that Foles "saved" the 2018 season. It's funny, they'll disregard every good thing Wentz has done and focus squarely on his negatives. But with Foles, who has far more negatives than Wentz, they only focus on 27-2, SuperBowl, and "saving 2018". 

38 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Nice effort in trying to sound rational.  Damage is already done.  

 

I'm all for moving him for the right price because I think fans like you and the media has created a narrative that will not be conducive for rebuilding this thing.  Not to mention the poor management by the FO.  But since you offered FA next season, as solution.  I'm willing to listen to suggestions.  Who do you have in mind?  Who do you have in mind for the draft?  Or do you hate Wentz so much, that you are just willing to take "whatever we can get" and blow it up?  

Not trying to sound like anything. I’ve been saying this. I think if certain QB fell at 6 I’d take em. As for who is available next season FA who knows? Anything can happen. This is in rebuild mode wether you want to believe that or not. I want to get started now. Not next season. 

1 hour ago, Desertbirds said:

Who would you rather retain, Wentz or Roseman?

I'll start - Wentz

At the moment...Option 3. Neither. 
 

A lot of it depends on what reports out in the wild are true. 

37 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

And sadly they still believe he’s come here and be our savior. Legitimately listening to wip and 975 the last couple days. Had at least 12 calls like that. 

People forget he is really good or really bad.

We got lucky in 2017 he got on a hot streak.

 

53 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Well haven't you heard.  You have morons in here just wanting to "push him off the cliff".  This is why we have the reputation we do.  

I have heard from Carson's uncle that this is one of the reasons he no longer posts here. He get's that people get upset with Carson's play. But the personal attacks are over the top. He said that one poster even said they wanted to harm the whole family.

If it weren't for most of the people in this blog I doubt I would post here very often, the complete idiocy of some of these guys is astounding. 

48 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think there’s a portion of the fan base that it goes back to wanting to keep foles over wentz. so they were hoping this day would come.

I guarantee you I know that one of them is hoping for that 

2 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

 

Take it and run.

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Enough about Hurts, he asked about Wentz

Ok here’s my thoughts on Wentz. He has had some good seasons and one bag according to most. 
 

Wentz had his best season in 2017. He also had a healthy Alshon a good season from Agholor (who had another this year in Oakland) a solid Oline a good running game with Blount and Ajayi plus Reich was here. That team was so good Foles went though the playoffs and won a SB with it. Freaking Nick Foles!?!  
 

On a team with good WRs good Oline good RBs and Good Coaching show me a guy who wouldn’t be successful with that team?

 

Wentz isn’t a guy who can carry a team to victory he’s a product of the team. This team is in hell right now. Wentz isn’t gonna pull them out. Move on fix cap trade dead weight and come out in 2022-2023 ready to compete. 

2 minutes ago, greend said:

I have heard from Carson's uncle that this is one of the reasons he no longer posts here. He get's that people get upset with Carson's play. But the personal attacks are over the top. He said that one poster even said they wanted to harm the whole family.

If it weren't for most of the people in this blog I doubt I would post here very often, the complete idiocy of some of these guys is astounding. 

The last i say if nodak was during the flyers run i believe we had a convo. His uncle was a good guy. Some good convos with him over the years. I imagine when he’s traded we won’t see nodak again which stinks  

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The last i say if nodak was during the flyers run i believe we had a convo. His uncle was a good guy. Some good convos with him over the years. I imagine when he’s traded we won’t see nodak again which stinks  

His uncle would also slip us a little info from time to time when he could. But, he won't be back would be my guess even if Carson stays because we just can't have nice things

3 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

Ok here’s my thoughts on Wentz. He has had some good seasons and one bag according to most. 
 

Wentz had his best season in 2017. He also had a healthy Alshon a good season from Agholor (who had another this year in Oakland) a solid Oline a good running game with Blount and Ajayi plus Reich was here. That team was so good Foles went though the playoffs and won a SB with it. Freaking Nick Foles!?!  
 

On a team with good WRs good Oline good RBs and Good Coaching show me a guy who wouldn’t be successful with that team?

 

Wentz isn’t a guy who can carry a team to victory he’s a product of the team. This team is in hell right now. Wentz isn’t gonna pull them out. Move on fix cap trade dead weight and come out in 2022-2023 ready to compete. 

Name the QBs who can carry the team.

7 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

Ok here’s my thoughts on Wentz. He has had some good seasons and one bag according to most. 
 

Wentz had his best season in 2017. He also had a healthy Alshon a good season from Agholor (who had another this year in Oakland) a solid Oline a good running game with Blount and Ajayi plus Reich was here. That team was so good Foles went though the playoffs and won a SB with it. Freaking Nick Foles!?!  
 

On a team with good WRs good Oline good RBs and Good Coaching show me a guy who wouldn’t be successful with that team?

 

Wentz isn’t a guy who can carry a team to victory he’s a product of the team. This team is in hell right now. Wentz isn’t gonna pull them out. Move on fix cap trade dead weight and come out in 2022-2023 ready to compete. 

i swear if foles played like this it would the total opposite, media and fans that dont like foles would hammering on howie's twitter account, trade him, get him out, get the best offer, he's not fixable. it just shows how it's not about football, it's about liking a player's self image. dont like foles he plays like crap trade him, love wentz plays like crap dont trade him, he's fixable.

I'd be fine with Sewell or Slater at 6. Sewell being the preference. However, I slide them immediately into LG unless Brooks isn't playing, then they go to RG. I want this o-line top three again. This would be like when the Colts drafted Nelson. 

3 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Name the QBs who can carry the team.

This has been covered before plenty of times. Go back. 

4 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

Ok here’s my thoughts on Wentz. He has had some good seasons and one bag according to most. 
 

Wentz had his best season in 2017. He also had a healthy Alshon a good season from Agholor (who had another this year in Oakland) a solid Oline a good running game with Blount and Ajayi plus Reich was here. That team was so good Foles went though the playoffs and won a SB with it. Freaking Nick Foles!?!  
 

On a team with good WRs good Oline good RBs and Good Coaching show me a guy who wouldn’t be successful with that team?

 

Wentz isn’t a guy who can carry a team to victory he’s a product of the team. This team is in hell right now. Wentz isn’t gonna pull them out. Move on fix cap trade dead weight and come out in 2022-2023 ready to compete. 

Every QB needs those things. When did needing those become a luxury?

Look what happened to Mahomes in the SB

Bunch of drops and backup tackles

Rodgers has struggled with bare minimum. Many future HOFers have struggled with crap

Eagles had numerous problems all over

10 minutes ago, greend said:

His uncle would also slip us a little info from time to time when he could. But, he won't be back would be my guess even if Carson stays because we just can't have nice things

Really says it all in a ton of sports. I totally expect embiid and harper to eventually get run out of here. Heck there were people doing that with embiid last year.