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3 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

I just think Trump may have won.  

It went down like this...

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3 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

You do realize that the Republican party is very likely the most organized, well funded and powerful democratic machine in the history of mankind?  You think the Dems just pulled a fast one on em for a few million votes?  Centuries of democratic safeguards just vanished?

Citations?

2 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

So you just want to believe it, but have no basis for thinking it could be the case. Do you often think this way?

It's fishy, you know, doesn't feel right in his gut.  That's gotta mean more than recounts, court cases and the most elaborate and safe guarded democratic traditions in the history of mankind.

1 minute ago, Gannan said:

It went down like this...

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It’s not a conspiracy it’s warfare and you can’t see that like in any war there’s a fog of war.  Ever play any real time strategy?

5 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Personally I think we’ve reached an age and size of population where it makes more sense to vote for President the old way where the legislatures decide

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This is what all Trumpbots want. Its' the only way republicans can win. 

Just now, Gannan said:

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This is what all Trumpbots want. Its' the only way republicans can win. 

Whereas you count on our forefathers votes 

Just now, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

It’s not a conspiracy

Careful. You keep talking like that and they'll kick you out of the cult. 

Dems:  we should get rid of the Electoral College and use the popular vote

GOP:  we should get rid of the Electoral College and let state legislatures decide who becomes the President

:wacko: 

4 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

You believe what you want because the people you trust told you.  I do the same. The difference is you seem to be very certain whereas I admit that I don’t know the outcome

It's funny because we can all see you have been completely bamboozled by Trump and you have no idea what he did to you lol.

2 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Whereas you count on our forefathers votes 

One person, one vote. It shouldn't be complicated. If course though its not complicated for me, because I'm a firm believer in a democracy. Most republicans want what the kind of government Russia has. 

31 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Case in point, 2000.  Gore wanted to choose to re examine that one Florida county.  But the court heard Bush’s argument that if you challenge that one county, you have to challenge all of the counties.  Gore dropped the case iirc.  We can take that to mean either he thought he had zero chance or that he thought there was a small chance compared to a serious blow to his reputation and campaign finances if he made a huge fuss and lost

We're just letting this pass? Because nothing in this post is factually accurate.

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Public records released to The Seattle Times last week show state Reps. Robert Sutherland, R-Granite Falls, Vicki Kraft, R-Vancouver, and Brad Klippert, R-Kennewick, requested and received expense reimbursements from the Legislature for the symposium. In all, the state paid $4,361 for their hotels and flights.

The New GOP - spending your tax dollars to watch My Pillow Guy ranting.

57 minutes ago, Gannan said:

One person, one vote. It shouldn't be complicated. If course though its not complicated for me, because I'm a firm believer in a democracy. Most republicans want what the kind of government Russia has. 

Why should you get to have your beliefs fulfilled and ours not?

43 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

We're just letting this pass? Because nothing in this post is factually accurate.

What is the case then or are you having another one of your ‘days’?

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

Dems:  we should get rid of the Electoral College and use the popular vote

GOP:  we should get rid of the Electoral College and let state legislatures decide who becomes the President

:wacko: 

I think anyone who takes time to think about optimal organizational framework will see at a certain scale directly voting is a suboptimal framework for everyone involved

3 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Why should you get to have your beliefs fulfilled and ours not?

Why should democratic beliefs be fulfilled in America and not autocratic one's?  Seriously?  If you want to live in a dictatorship, move to one.  Problem solved.

1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

I think anyone who takes time to think about optimal organizational framework will see at a certain scale directly voting is a suboptimal framework for everyone involved

I'm not sure I understand your critique.  Yeah, it takes a lot of effort to undertake an election...   And...???

2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

I'm not sure I understand your critique.  Yeah, it takes a lot of effort to undertake an election...   And...???

And steals and stuff. That's all.

7 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Why should you get to have your beliefs fulfilled and ours not?

What is the case then or are you having another one of your ‘days’?

I'm just dealing in facts.

1. Gore challenged the results in 4 counties, not one. He filed with the state courts in Florida asking for recounts in 4 Democratic leaning counties.

2. Bush challenged Gore and won initially, which Gore appealed to the Florida Supreme Court

3. The Florida Supreme Court ordered a state wide recount, expanding beyond even what Gore asked for

4. Bush, not Gore, filed a petition to have the case heard by the US Supreme Court arguing that different counting standards violated Bush's equal protection rights

5. The SCOTUS ruled that the different standards did violate Bush's equal protection rights, and that there wasn't time to adopt uniform standards due to the Safe Harbor date in the Electoral College Act

Gore challenged 4, not 1. Bush never asked for the whole state. And the SCOTUS ended it, not Gore dropping it. Like I said -- you got nothing correct.

So, if having one of my "days" is actually knowing facts and correcting your idiocy, then yeah...I'm having one of my days.

Happy New Year, folks

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18 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Why should you get to have your beliefs fulfilled and ours not?

Because your beliefs are stupid.

13 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I'm just dealing in facts.

1. Gore challenged the results in 4 counties, not one. He filed with the state courts in Florida asking for recounts in 4 Democratic leaning counties.

2. Bush challenged Gore and won initially, which Gore appealed to the Florida Supreme Court

3. The Florida Supreme Court ordered a state wide recount, expanding beyond even what Gore asked for

4. Bush, not Gore, filed a petition to have the case heard by the US Supreme Court arguing that different counting standards violated Bush's equal protection rights

5. The SCOTUS ruled that the different standards did violate Bush's equal protection rights, and that there wasn't time to adopt uniform standards due to the Safe Harbor date in the Electoral College Act

Gore challenged 4, not 1. Bush never asked for the whole state. And the SCOTUS ended it, not Gore dropping it. Like I said -- you got nothing correct.

So, if having one of my "days" is actually knowing facts and correcting your idiocy, then yeah...I'm having one of my days.

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22 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Why should democratic beliefs be fulfilled in America and not autocratic one's?  Seriously?  If you want to live in a dictatorship, move to one.  Problem solved.

We have a constitution, is that what you mean by autocratic?  We have jury trials.  Should we just all vote who is guilty?

15 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I'm just dealing in facts.

1. Gore challenged the results in 4 counties, not one. He filed with the state courts in Florida asking for recounts in 4 Democratic leaning counties.

2. Bush challenged Gore and won initially, which Gore appealed to the Florida Supreme Court

3. The Florida Supreme Court ordered a state wide recount, expanding beyond even what Gore asked for

4. Bush, not Gore, filed a petition to have the case heard by the US Supreme Court arguing that different counting standards violated Bush's equal protection rights

5. The SCOTUS ruled that the different standards did violate Bush's equal protection rights, and that there wasn't time to adopt uniform standards due to the Safe Harbor date in the Electoral College Act

Gore challenged 4, not 1. Bush never asked for the whole state. And the SCOTUS ended it, not Gore dropping it. Like I said -- you got nothing correct.

So, if having one of my "days" is actually knowing facts and correcting your idiocy, then yeah...I'm having one of my days.

All you’ve proven here is that you think it makes you smarter to say the same thing with more words and I think it’s smarter to say the same thing with fewer words

2 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

All you’ve proven here is that you think it makes you smarter to say the same thing with more words and I think it’s smarter to say the same thing with fewer words

Or that you are a clueless dolt.

 

You saying 1 when the truth is 4, does make a difference.

Just now, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

All you’ve proven here is that you think it makes you smarter to say the same thing with more words and I think it’s smarter to say the same thing with fewer words

True, true. Solid point.

Oh, and I also got all the facts correct while you invented BS in your damaged mind. Maybe you should post less and actually read something to try and learn...assuming you can read.

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