February 3, 20214 yr Deep State Elites. Wall Street Billionaires. Illegal aliens. The 1%. International Jewish conspiracy. It's all the same game. Make people scared and give them someone to blame while you screw them over.
February 3, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Deep State Elites. Wall Street Billionaires. Illegal aliens. The 1%. International Jewish conspiracy. It's all the same game. Make people scared and give them someone to blame while you screw them over. You forgot about Jewish Space Lasers.
February 3, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: Deep State Elites. Wall Street Billionaires. Illegal aliens. The 1%. International Jewish conspiracy. It's all the same game. Make people scared and give them someone to blame while you screw them over. Point is though that is a bad poll question Just now, downundermike said: You forgot about Jewish Space Lasers. Are there Italian Space lasers? I like diversity
February 3, 20214 yr Just now, Joe Shades 73 said: Point is though that is a bad poll question Shouldn't you be cutting yourself while listening to Culture Club as you confront a world where COVID is never solved and the Supreme Court re-installs Trump?
February 3, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Shouldn't you be cutting yourself while listening to Culture Club as you confront a world where COVID is never solved and the Supreme Court re-installs Trump? I do that during the night hours right now I am more concerned about the deep state elites!!
February 3, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I don't know, but I've been kind of having a different conversation than you guys. I'd vote unequivocally no on whether there are "deep state elite" because from the sound of it, it's just right wing scare mongering gibberish. True, you would vote no. But based on your description below, could you see how a Republican might answer that question that it's "mostly" or "partly" true, yet still not believe we should murder Democrat politicians, still not end POTUS term limits, still not believe Democrats are Satan worshippers, still not believe Jewish space lasers started the wildfire? If they think the question is asking, is the government run by government lifers and elites, that's a bit different no? Even some Democrats agreed with it. 17 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I don't even understand what a "deep state elite" is. Seems like kind of an oxymoron. As I understand it, the deep state is supposed to be lifers in the bureaucracy, meaning they're just people with long tenured, lower level government jobs. I wouldn't exactly consider them elite. Now the guy that was supposed to destroy the deep state, who sheet on a golden toilet, on the other hand...
February 3, 20214 yr Forbes using the 24% figure now btw Quote A January Morning Consult poll found that 24% of Republicans who knew of the QAnon conspiracy theory believed it to be true, a 14-point drop from October. The rest of the article: Quote Democrats Launch Campaign To Tie GOP To QAnon As Some Republicans Back Away TOPLINE As the trickle of Republicans who have publicly disavowed QAnon and its supporters turns into a stream, Democrats are working to remind voters of the party’s embrace of the crackpot conspiracy theory in ads and public relation campaigns. KEY FACTS On Tuesday, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee launched a $500,000 ad campaign against eight House Republicans, including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), tying the lawmakers to the conspiracy theory and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), who has previously expressed support for QAnon, among other unhinged conspiracy theories. Rep. Don Bacon (R-Nebr.) "stood with Q, not you,” the narrator of one ad said, accusing the Nebraska congressman—who voted against impeaching Trump—of being a "coward” by voting to "protect” former President Donald Trump and the QAnon mob. In an interview with the Omaha World-Herald Tuesday, Bacon—who condemned the Capitol riot and criticized Trump for not accepting the results of the election—fired back, telling Democrats, "How about we get to work on growing our economy and tackling Covid-19 before worrying about elections, which are 22 months from now?” Along with Bacon and McCarthy, Democrats targeted six other Republican representatives who voted against impeaching Trump: Beth Van Duyne of Texas, Maria Elvira Salazar of Florida, Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania and Mike Garcia, Young Kim and Michelle Steel, all from California. (McCarthy, Van Duyne and Garcia were also among the group of 147 House Republicans who voted in favor of overturning the election.) On Saturday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) put out a statement with the headline "Minority Leader McCarthy (̶G̶O̶P̶)̶ (QAnon) Embraces Marjorie Taylor Greene” after Republicans assigned Greene to the House Education and Labor Committee. WHAT TO WATCH FOR Democrats are moving to strip Greene from her committee assignment and deliver an ultimatum to McCarthy: Remove Greene or Democrats will hold a vote on the issue. McCarthy—who called Greene’s past comments "disturbing”—does not appear ready to cave, even as prominent Senate Republicans pressure him to act. The House Rules Committee is scheduled to meet Wednesday to advance a rule kick-starting the process to remove Greene from the committee, according to CNN. CRUCIAL QUOTE Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) blasted the "loony lies” told by Greene in a statement to The Hill on Monday. He joins other high-profile Republicans such as Sen. Ben Sasse of Nebraska to have recently disavowed QAnon and its followers. KEY BACKGROUND A January Morning Consult poll found that 24% of Republicans who knew of the QAnon conspiracy theory believed it to be true, a 14-point drop from October. TANGENT Greene rose to prominence last year after embracing the QAnon conspiracy theory and has since come under fire for a host of controversies, including old Facebook comments in which she endorsed executing prominent Democrats. She also claimed past school shootings were "false flag” events staged by actors and that the 2018 California wildfires were caused by Jewish "space lasers.” Greene has brushed aside most of the criticism as a smear campaign by Democrats and the media. She also claimed some of the comments on her Facebook were posted by other people running her account. SURPRISING FACT On Monday, Greene said she is supposed to meet with Trump "soon.” Trump previously called the Georgia Republican a "future Republican star.”
February 3, 20214 yr https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2021/02/02/house-gops-acceptance-of-marjorie-taylor-greene-under-fire-from-top-senate-republicans/?sh=2839156825fb Quote House GOP’s Acceptance Of Marjorie Taylor Greene Under Fire From Top Senate Republicans TOPLINE Top Senate Republicans on Tuesday began speaking out against Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) and her placement within the House GOP caucus after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell opened the door for criticism by blasting her "loony lies and conspiracy theories” on Monday. KEY FACTSSen. Todd Young (R-Ind.), a former chair of the Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee, said in a press call that there "should be no debate” about Greene, calling her "nutty” and an "embarrassment to our party.” Senate GOP Whip John Thune told CNN the House GOP will "decide who they want to be” in how they handle Greene, asking if they want to be the party of limited government and fiscal responsibility or "the party of conspiracy theories and QAnon.” Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) said the party that nominated him for president as recently as 2012 should have "nothing to do with Marjorie Taylor Greene," adding, "our party isn't big enough to have both conservatives and kooks." Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) said of Greene, "She doesn't represent the party. I don't want her as the face of our party," adding, "We don't need people that are promoting violence.” The comments come after McConnell said Greene is a "cancer for the Republican Party” and "not living in reality,” citing her endorsement of 9/11 conspiracy theories and her belief that several mass shootings were false flag operations. But McConnell also declined to answer a question on Tuesday about whether he supports an effort to strip Greene of her committee assignments, and several other top GOP senators dodged questions about Greene altogether. Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.) told CNN’s Manu Raju on Monday that he’s only "vaguely familiar” with Greene and would show "restraint” by not commenting, while Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said Tuesday he doesn’t "know enough about her” and declined to comment on statements. KEY BACKGROUND House Republicans have been largely silent on Greene despite the continual resurfacing of her past conspiracy theories, offensive statements and even endorsements of executions of top Democrats. House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy has called her past comments, mostly made before she ran for office, "disturbing” and said he plans to have a conversation with her – though he appears unlikely to capitulate to an ultimatum by House Democrats to remove her from her committee assignments by Thursday before they do it themselves. BIG NUMBER 138. That’s how many House Republicans voted to object to Biden’s victory in Pennsylvania during a joint session of Congress on Jan. 6, compared to just 7 Republican senators – signaling the stark divide between the two chambers on how far they are willing to go to defend Trump and Trumpism. TANGENTGOP Senators also expressed support for Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), who is facing an effort to remove her from her role as House Republican Conference Chair for her vote to impeach Trump. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who has been one of the most vocal opponents of Trump’s second impeachment, tweeted that Cheney is "one of the strongest and most reliable conservative voices in the Republican Party.” Grassley also spoke out against removing her. CRUCIAL QUOTE"Liz Cheney is a leader with deep convictions and the courage to act on them," McConnell said in a statement on Monday. "She is an important leader in our party and in our nation. I am grateful for her service and look forward to continuing to work with her on the crucial issues facing our nation." WHAT TO WATCH FOR McConnell still holds considerable sway over his caucus, which could have significant reverberations in the near future. Despite voting with 44 other GOP senators to dismiss Trump’s impeachment trial, McConnell – who reportedly favored the idea of barring Trump from running for office at one point – has signaled he will keep an open mind during the trial, meaning the outcome may not be as inevitable as it appears.
February 3, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, DrPhilly said: For some reason he's not approachable on the subject. Surprising really. It seems so obvious. This might be the next CVON inspired moment of truth for me. The last one was seeing Zuker go off the rails with Trump. That's where "lock&load" came from as I knew there was big trouble ahead. Your new catch phrase can be "139 is less than half of 211” !
February 3, 20214 yr 16 minutes ago, Gannan said: Your new catch phrase can be "139 is less than half of 211” ! Too funny. Shall I go back and dig that back up? You used 121 from the House and ignored the Senate. That was probably from the AZ vote. I remember asking you to do a weighted version recognizing that each Rep only held 1/453 of power and each Sen 1/100 with the point being that a Senator is worth more than a Rep. Anyway, doesn't matter. I fully get your basic point which is that FAR too many Republican officials have at minimum not been vocal enough in taking a stand against all the lunacy and many have even publicly supported much of it. However, I do take exception to what I consider your heavily exaggerated claims and use of phrases like "abundantly clear" in the general sweeping assertions you've made over the last week or so about the entire Republican party and all of its voters. That style wasn't what I was used to from the majority of your body of work in here but maybe I wasn't paying enough attention.
February 3, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, mr_hunt said: trump and mtg are the new repug party. yep...they really are. You and MTG are a lot alike... you’re both obsessed with David Hogg!!
February 3, 20214 yr Republicans in the House are now trying to do get Ilhan Omar removed from committees as well. Deflect much? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/03/gop-targets-ilhan-omar-after-dems-try-oust-marjorie-taylor-green/4369715001/ Quote In retaliation, House Republicans are seeking to remove Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., from her House committee assignments. House Republicans Brian Babin of Texas, Jeff Duncan of South Carolina, Jody Hice of Georgia, Andy Biggs of Arizona and Ronny Jackson of Texas – who, like Greene, also spread misinformation about election fraud – sponsored a proposed amendment to remove Omar from committee, first reported by FOX News. "Leftist Members of Congress have advocated for violence, anti-Semitism, anti-law enforcement, & other sentiments that have violated rules of decorum & principles of American decency," Biggs tweeted Wednesday. "That's why I'm calling for Rep Omar to be removed from her committee." Babin claims several of instances as evidence for Omar's removal from the House Foreign Affairs Committee, including her February 2019 tweet "It’s all about the Benjamins baby” responding to a comment made by House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy about punishing Omar for being critical of Israel. Omar’s tweet triggered swift backlash from both sides of the aisle, with critics accusing her of calling on anti-Semitic stereotypes. After the backlash, Omar apologized for her tweet. "Anti-Semitism is real and I am grateful for Jewish allies and colleagues who are educating me on the painful history of anti-Semitic tropes,” Omar tweeted. "My intention I never to offend my constituents or Jewish Americans as a whole."
February 3, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, DrPhilly said: We were using the number of 120 and looking at all the votes back when we had that discussion. Add in the 44 Senators. Voila. Oh so a slim majority of the party representatives voted to do what was a essentially a formality in all previous elections in the modern era? That only slightly less than half went all in on meritless accusations of conspiratorial fraud that failed 64 times in court based on a lack of evidentiary grounds? Phew, that makes me feel much better. For a second I was worried that the party was too far gone, thanks for setting me straight.
February 3, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, DrPhilly said: Too funny. Shall I go back and dig that back up? You used 121 from the House and ignored the Senate. That was probably from the AZ vote. I remember asking you to do a weighted version recognizing that each Rep only held 1/453 of power and each Sen 1/100 with the point being that a Senator is worth more than a Rep. Anyway, doesn't matter. I fully get your basic point which is that FAR too many Republican officials have at minimum not been vocal enough in taking a stand against all the lunacy and many have even publicly supported much of it. However, I do take exception to what I consider your heavily exaggerated claims and use of phrases like "abundantly clear" in the general sweeping assertions you've made over the last week or so about the entire Republican party and all of its voters. That style wasn't what I was used to from the majority of your body of work in here but maybe I wasn't paying enough attention. Again... never said that. You have Gannan derangement syndrome. I said the republican party stands for fascism, authoritarianism, violence, and Q anon. Which they do. I understand that folks like Vikas, and Snows Hair and Alpha Tater want to try to get the party back to what it once was. There are sane republicans that still believe in American principles, they're just in the extreme minority. For a long time I thought as soon as Trump was gone the republicans would reject Trump and authoritarianism and correct course. They didn't. They aren't going to. The republican party is dead. They retained the name "Republican", but they are the fascist party.
February 4, 20214 yr It's crazy to think that it's possible for stupidity and conspiracy theories to take over this country. Never thought I'd see it.
February 4, 20214 yr 26 minutes ago, L.E said: Loony Bin Rosa Parks is right on track to win the nomination
February 4, 20214 yr Well if Liz Cheney is stripped of her leadership role we will know that the GOP is controlled by the radical right lunatics.
February 4, 20214 yr You can look at it like it's a hefty margin, but it's still 61 more votes too many which is embarassing
February 4, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: You can look at it like it's a hefty margin, but it's still 61 more votes too many which is embarassing It's less than half, so there's that. Yikes.
February 4, 20214 yr Who cares about Liz Cheney? Marjorie Taylor Greene is the future of the Republican party.
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