3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I am. If the Dems were smart they would step back and let it go at this point and watch the GOP rip itself apart of sink their own ship. 

Well I'm not a Dem so who says I want the GOP ripped to shreds?  I don't. I want all the liars and delusional members of that party to be held accountable and do the damn job they swore an oath to.

7 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Trump is over, you cultists are just gonna have to deal with it.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3727897-betting-markets-now-give-desantis-the-edge-to-win-white-house-in-2024/

 

DeSantis’s odds in the 2024 presidential race jumped to 28 percent on Wednesday, while Trump’s dropped to 18.4 percent, according to Election Betting Odds, a tracking website run by conservative pundit John Stossel and his executive producer Maxim Lott that looked at the odds offered by multiple other forums.

Two of the sites that Election Betting Odds pulls from — Betfair and Smarkets — showed DeSantis holding a substantial lead over Trump, with the Florida governor coming in at 27 percent to 27.8 percent and the former president at 18.2 to 18.5 percent. 

 

 

12 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Never thought I'd say that but it was my first thought last night. If the Dems were smart they would step back and let it go at this point and watch the GOP rip itself apart of sink their own ship. 

They won't (and they wouldn't anyway, since he committed a serious national security crime and deserves to be in prison). 

I know it's popular chum on the right but Dems really aren't using Trump's crime as some sort of political chip.  The FBI isn't targeting Trump.  He just committed a number of serious crimes and is, hopefully, going to pay for them.

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

They won't (and they wouldn't anyway, since he committed a serious national security crime and deserves to be in prison). 

I know it's popular chum on the right but Dems really aren't using Trump's crime as some sort of political chip.  The FBI isn't targeting Trump.  He just committed a number of serious crimes and is, hopefully, going to pay for them.

I hope so too just for different reasons now. 

Just now, Diehardfan said:

I hope so too just for different reasons now. 

I mean, in the end, Trump's crimes are a second off-ramp for the Republican party.  The first was the second impeachment.  Dems didn't gain anything from impeaching him over Jan 6th.  He was gone no matter what.  They were just giving Republicans an opportunity to move on.  But they didn't take it.

This is a second chance.  The right should turn hard on him over the national security crimes.  It's an easy off ramp and hard to argue against without heading into conspiracy land.

I don't know how much faith I have that that'll happen, but it's certainly an opening if the party really wants to shift gears.

6 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

I mean, in the end, Trump's crimes are a second off-ramp for the Republican party.  The first was the second impeachment.  Dems didn't gain anything from impeaching him over Jan 6th.  He was gone no matter what.  They were just giving Republicans an opportunity to move on.  But they didn't take it.

This is a second chance.  The right should turn hard on him over the national security crimes.  It's an easy off ramp and hard to argue against without heading into conspiracy land.

I don't know how much faith I have that that'll happen, but it's certainly an opening if the party really wants to shift gears.

it's the party of cucks and cowards.  repugs won't stand up to cheeto.

 

So since Oz loves "his commonwealth” so much, will he continue to reside at his in laws in perpetuity trying to help the great citizens of PA? Or was he a full of crap, carpet bagging, power grabber?  If he loves our state, and wants to represent us, you’d think he’d stay here. 

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

 

Well, there have been several who have not taken the denial path.  I suspect many of them understand that the mass of voters in the middle don't want to hear anything more about that crap.  Naturally, there are many that continue like the Lake witch in Arizona.

Below is the Oz concession.
  

 

Actually gracious and deserving of respect. Good for him to take the high road unlike so many of his fellow candidates in the party.

59 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

especially when the primary is rigged against him

Nice to see some of guys finally starting to catch on. We've only been telling you this for 2 straight years despite being told Trump was no longer the president and we shouldn't talk about him because he's irrelevant after 2020.

33 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

I mean, in the end, Trump's crimes are a second off-ramp for the Republican party.  The first was the second impeachment.  Dems didn't gain anything from impeaching him over Jan 6th.  He was gone no matter what.  They were just giving Republicans an opportunity to move on.  But they didn't take it.

This is a second chance.  The right should turn hard on him over the national security crimes.  It's an easy off ramp and hard to argue against without heading into conspiracy land.

I don't know how much faith I have that that'll happen, but it's certainly an opening if the party really wants to shift gears.

Are you not familiar with where the party has permanently taken up residence since 2020?

15 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Nice to see some of guys finally starting to catch on. We've only been telling you this for 2 straight years despite being told Trump was no longer the president and we shouldn't talk about him because he's irrelevant after 2020.

It's one thing to close them off for a sitting president. I had no idea that was the plan for 2024. 

11 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

It's one thing to close them off for a sitting president. I had no idea that was the plan for 2024. 

What planet have you been living on the past 6 years or so?

37 minutes ago, homerpat said:

So since Oz loves "his commonwealth” so much, will he continue to reside at his in laws in perpetuity trying to help the great citizens of PA? Or was he a full of crap, carpet bagging, power grabber?  If he loves our state, and wants to represent us, you’d think he’d stay here. 

F him. Bye! Go back to Joisey. 

1 minute ago, Outlaw said:

F him. Bye! Go back to Joisey. 

We don't want him either 

Just now, Boogyman said:

We don't want him either 

Game of Hot Oztato across the Delaware?

7 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Game of Hot Oztato across the Delaware?

I say send him 500 miles east of NJ and leave him there.

1 minute ago, Boogyman said:

I say send him 500 miles east of NJ and leave him there.

That mothaFa will be torturing whales and sea otters and ish. 

1 hour ago, homerpat said:

So since Oz loves "his commonwealth” so much, will he continue to reside at his in laws in perpetuity trying to help the great citizens of PA? Or was he a full of crap, carpet bagging, power grabber?  If he loves our state, and wants to represent us, you’d think he’d stay here. 

His campaign HQ was literally right off 95 and minutes from New Jersey. He was back in NJ minutes after he conceded.

4 minutes ago, Gannan said:

His campaign HQ was literally right off 95 and minutes from New Jersey. He was back in NJ minutes after he conceded.

exactly and national media and twitter wonder how we could dare not vote for him. It’s legit insulting thinking we want someone with zero ties to our state representing our interests. 

So she's saying 18 too young to vote because brain isn't fully developed but to buy guns, die for your country it's aok.  Good idea, alienate young voters....

18 minutes ago, Tweek said:

So she's saying 18 too young to vote because brain isn't fully developed but to buy guns, die for your country it's aok.  Good idea, alienate young voters....

"A person's brain isn't fully developed until 25" but also "Raise the voting age to 21" 

Just now, Paul852 said:

"A person's brain isn't fully developed until 25" but also "Raise the voting age to 21" 

Exactly 😂

21 minutes ago, Tweek said:

Exactly 😂

she has the brain of an 18 year old. 

Yeah, raise the voting age to 21, but a 16 yr. old can go buy an AR-15. That makes whole a lot of sense.