35 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Fighting with allies and making friends with dictators, greet work

Bukele was democratically elected with 84.7% of the vote.

He has more democratic legitimacy than any NATO leader.

20 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Yup. Pure partisan hackary.

@TEW I’m not talking about you. I know you understand it and often we share principles based on it.

34 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

The bottom line is that Diehard and many other people in the country do not actually care about the Constitution despite being people who have screamed about the Constitution for decades. The Constitution for them is not something that they understand or even aspire to understand. It is simply some abstract item that they refer to it when it suits their agenda because it sounds good to do so.

Can you blame them after multiple generations of their political opponents flagrantly violating it, to the point that the Democratic Party’s preferred legal theory can be distilled down to, "the constitution means whatever the F we want it to mean in that particular moment in time,” based explicitly on political expediency?

4 minutes ago, TEW said:

Bukele was democratically elected with 84.7% of the vote.

He has more democratic legitimacy than any NATO leader.

He can still be a dictator in any case.

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

@TEW I’m not talking about you. I know you understand it and often we share principles based on it.

I’m just laughing at the freak out.

It’s funny.

Just now, DrPhilly said:

He can still be a dictator in any case.

"Can” is lifting more weight than Atlas.

Just now, TEW said:

Can you blame them after multiple generations of their political opponents flagrantly violating it, to the point that the Democratic Party’s preferred legal theory can be distilled down to, "the constitution means whatever the F we want it to mean in that particular moment in time,” based explicitly on political expediency?

As you know I’m a both sider so I can absolutely blame them. Also, what Trump is doing far outweighs what the Dems did fwiw.

Just now, TEW said:

"Can” is lifting more weight than Atlas.

Right so you agree

5 minutes ago, TEW said:

Bukele was democratically elected with 84.7% of the vote.

He has more democratic legitimacy than any NATO leader.

I know you have zero compassion for others, but how is his record on human rights and due process?

2 minutes ago, TEW said:

I’m just laughing at the freak out.

It’s funny.

Which freak out? What specifically?

Just now, DrPhilly said:

As you know I’m a both sider so I can absolutely blame them. Also, what Trump is doing far outweighs what the Dems did fwiw.

See, I don’t think you can. Not if you’re realistic at least.

At some point you can’t expect one side to just enthusiastically embrace losing on principles while their political opponents — again, quite explicitly as a matter of policy and legal theory — literally operate on "it means what I want it to mean in that particular moment when I want it to mean that particular thing.”

No, that’s not the way humans work. And I find it particularly ironic for this standard to be expected of their opponents by the side crying about the rules based order, as if their entire political ideology isn’t fundamentally based in subversion of the social order.

8 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

I know you have zero compassion for others, but how is record on human rights and due process?

I assume you mean how is Bukele’s record on human rights and due process?

Assuming that’s your question (unclear due to type I’m presuming), I honestly don’t know. I’m sure the usual leftist sh** bags have written thousands of pages about how he, too, is Hitler.

But I would offer that I have far more compassion than any of those leftist sh**bags, and more than you.

While your ilk shed tears for the worst criminals in the western hemisphere — monsters known for raping children and mass murder by torture — I shed tears for their victims and seek to prevent innocent people from becoming victims in the future.

It’s really easy to sit on your high horse and decry that the new president of a gang crime ridden narco state hasn’t upheld civil liberties to the standards of your upper middle class life, but swap your life for that of some terrorized El Salvador villager, and you’d be singing a different tune… one that sounded identical to the ~85% of El Salvador who voted for him.

Only insulated upwardly mobile westerners have the privilege of giving a crap about MS-13 members being treated fairly, because it’s not their wife being skinned alive after she’s been gang raped.

1 minute ago, TEW said:

I assume you mean how is Bukele’s record on human rights and due process?

Assuming that’s your question (unclear due to type I’m presuming), I honestly don’t know. I’m sure the usual leftist sh** bags have written thousands of pages about how he, too, is Hitler.

But I would offer that I have far more compassion than any of those leftist sh**bags, and more than you.

While your ilk shed tears for the worst criminals in the western hemisphere — monsters known for raping children and mass murder by torture — I shed tears for their victims and seek to prevent innocent people from becoming victims in the future.

It’s really easy to sit on your high horse and decry that the new president of a gang crime ridden narco state hasn’t upheld civil liberties to the standards of your upper middle class life, but swap your life for that of some terrorized El Salvador villager, and you’d be singing a different tune… one that sounded identical to the ~85% of El Salvador who voted for him.

Only insulated upwardly mobile westerners have the privilege of giving a crap about MS-13 members being treated fairly, because it’s not their wife being skinned alive after she’s been gang raped.

I think a few of us were part of the discussion where you proposed machine-gunning immigrants at the border. But ok, you’re the fellow with the most compassion here.

Also, no one cares what you lunatics think the Constitution means.

17 hours ago, TEW said:

Makes sense. From what I’ve read these El Salvador prisons are about 30% cheaper than American prisons.

Good move all around — cheaper and a greater fear inspiring deterrent.

Also, El Salvador is warm and sunny and I hear prison rapings include after action cuddling there

19 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Which freak out? What specifically?

All of it! Every part of it.

The crying over El Salvador prisons, the crying over the El Salvador illegal, the crying over the technical based domestic anarcho-tyranny system breaking down through extra-national technicalities, the crying over the right winning by playing by the rules the left normalized, and so much more.

It’s all hilarious to me.

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

I think a few of us were part of the discussion where you proposed machine-gunning immigrants at the border. But ok, you’re the fellow with the most compassion here.

Also, no one cares what you lunatics think the Constitution means.

Yeah, that’s already been brought up and slapped down yet again.

No matter how many times you retards try to misrepresent that conversation, it will never work.

22 minutes ago, TEW said:

Yeah, that’s already been brought up and slapped down yet again.

No matter how many times you retards try to misrepresent that conversation, it will never work.

You’re more delusional than @DrPhilly

24 minutes ago, TEW said:

All of it! Every part of it.

The crying over El Salvador prisons, the crying over the El Salvador illegal, the crying over the technical based domestic anarcho-tyranny system breaking down through extra-national technicalities, the crying over the right winning by playing by the rules the left normalized, and so much more.

It’s all hilarious to me.

That seems like a silly take to me and where some of us experience it as you abandoning your principles since you are no longer ready to defend them. If the Dems somehow win in '28 and then proceed to sheet on the 2nd amendment you'll be singing a different tune. Sending people to that gulag in El Salvador without due process is simply un-American and unconstitutional as evidenced by multiple SCOTUS rulings including this latest one. Also, Dem presidents did not simply waive off SCOTUS. Biden went around them with student loans by taking another legal route but that's something entirely different than what the Trump WH is doing and also was a singular event while Trump is telling the Judiciary to Foff time and again.

I will concede that TEW has more compassion than others here

for insurrectionists and other right-wing terrorists

21 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

You’re more delusional than @DrPhilly

That's obvious. The question is whether TEW is more delusional than you Hamoss.

8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

That's obvious. The question is whether TEW is more delusional than you Hamoss.

I think you should be sent to the gulag so I guess there’s not a huge difference

58 minutes ago, TEW said:

All of it! Every part of it.

The crying over El Salvador prisons, the crying over the El Salvador illegal, the crying over the technical based domestic anarcho-tyranny system breaking down through extra-national technicalities, the crying over the right winning by playing by the rules the left normalized, and so much more.

It’s all hilarious to me.

Who’s crying? I didn’t realize that pointing out that the president is blatantly violating due process is "crying”. Glad I have the record straight now. All your previous decade worth of posts criticizing government overreach and talking about slippery slopes and the importance of the constitution was actually you just whining and crying. Good to know.

5 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Who’s crying? I didn’t realize that pointing out that the president is blatantly violating due process is "crying”. Glad I have the record straight now. All your previous decade worth of posts criticizing government overreach and talking about slippery slopes and the importance of the constitution was actually you just whining and crying. Good to know.

Were you in TEW’s Government class in high school? If not, it’s unlikely that you understand the Constitution as well as he does.

Did you guys know William and Mary is the second oldest institution in the U.S. after Harvard? Trump should probably cut their funding too.