April 17Apr 17 8 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:Trump Administration before Garcia's deportation made public news: We made a mistake. We shouldn't have deported him. What we did was illegal.Trump Administration after Garcia's deportation makes public news: Turns out he was actually an MS-13 gang member the whole time! We didn't make a mistake at all! He's exactly where he should be!The broad was caught contradicting her police report and you are deflecting because you know it's bad he was a woman beater on top of the rest.
April 17Apr 17 41 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:Trump Administration before Garcia's deportation made public news: We made a mistake. We shouldn't have deported him. What we did was illegal.Trump Administration after Garcia's deportation makes public news: Turns out he was actually an MS-13 gang member the whole time! We didn't make a mistake at all! He's exactly where he should be!Good point but they obviously needed to get on the same page and the end result is he is what they kicked him for being.
April 17Apr 17 45 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:The broad was caught contradicting her police report and you are deflecting because you know it's bad he was a woman beater on top of the rest.the only deflecting going on is from the Trump administration. Funny how once the news became public they did a complete 180 on their stance….
April 17Apr 17 Too funny. The DOJ releases the flimsy info we’ve already known about for a week and the TBots rejoice and willingly take another orange goo shot to the forehead. The bottom line is Garcia did not receive the due diligence he has every right to access.
April 17Apr 17 5 hours ago, Diehardfan said:The hole just keeps getting deeperNone of these stories have anything to do with the government violating the 5th amendment.
April 17Apr 17 11 hours ago, TEW said:You underestimate how much of their powerful alumni network wants this.HINT: The powerful alumni networks of elite universities are made up largely of rich Jews and white dudes. Those endowments exist because of them, and they come with strings attached.Bill Ackman is a great example. A bit dated, but should provide some prospective…I get that the universities largely Fd up, but I don't know that the pendulum swinging back this far is the solution to that problem.@vikas83 , given your alma mater, what say you?
April 17Apr 17 11 hours ago, Arthur Jackson said:Come on, snow.I'm not saying there isn't reason to be suspicious.But what the Trump-tards are demanding is that we "trust the state" and specifically reports from law enforcement to be the only source of truth.This is why we have due process. To prevent that sort of mentality. A police report from the scene is not adjudication. It's an allegation by the state, which in this country every person - regardless of citizenship status - is afforded the right to dispute in a court of law.The report was from 2019. This particular defendant as far as I know had since been granted by a court legal protection from deportation. The issue here is a government that is running afoul of the law. That goes against the very principles on which the nation was founded.
April 17Apr 17 1 minute ago, Bill said:I get that the universities largely Fd up, but I don't know that the pendulum swinging back this far is the solution to that problem.@vikas83 , given your alma mater, what say you?I can tell you a good friend of mine (was literally the best man in his wedding) is a third generation legacy at one of the big 3 ivies. His family has donated millions of dollars over the last ~70 years. He’s the CEO of a large business, so basically the exact prototype of how their alumni network is built.He, along with all of his college friends, cut them off entirely from donations. They’re basically all disgusted with what their school has become. Yes, this is anecdotal, but I think it’s reflective of the current zeitgeist.Ackman is one example, but you can see it in a lot of the big tech moguls as well — obviously billionaires like Musk and Theil. But a better example is Alex Karp.Karp should be the bread and butter lefty DEI donor. He went to Haverford (not Harvard — even more left wing) for undergrad where he studied philosophy, Stanford law, then a PhD in "neoclassical social theory” in freaking Europe where his thesis was titled — and I swear I’m not making this up — "Aggression in lived world experience: The extension of Parsons’ concept of aggression by describing the connection between jargon, aggression, and culture."… oh, and he’s a self described socialist and ethnically half black.If ever there were to be a powerful billionaire alumni you would think would get behind DEI crap, it’d be him. But no — because he actually works in the real world, actually believes in a post racial merit based society… and he’s also half Jewish.The real world has a way of cutting straight through this crap. Most guys like him would have been strong democrats and left wing supporters even 10 years ago. But these universities have gone so over the top and their faculty and activist student bodies are so poisonous with their woke crap that the people who actually matter have rightly identified them as a "central threat” to the United States — his words, not mine.
April 17Apr 17 https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/16/politics/abrego-garcia-2021-protective-order-statement/index.htmlThe wife of the Maryland man who the US government mistakenly deported to El Salvador acknowledged that she had filed a civil protective order against him four years ago, but said it was out of an abundance of caution and that the couple had worked through their issues.The statement Wednesday from Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, came after the Department of Homeland Security posted on X a copy of a protective order that Vasquez Sura requested against her husband in 2021.CNN has also reviewed the petition for a protective order provided by a Homeland Security official describing a disagreement and physical altercation that included hitting and "scratching” between Abrego Garcia and Vasquez Sura.The Trump administration’s release of the documents come as part of its renewed push to portray Abrego Garcia, who has not been charged with or convicted of any crime, as a violent and dangerous criminal and a member of MS-13."Based on the sensationalism of many of the people in this room, you would think we deported a candidate for Father of the Year,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Tuesday.Abrego Garcia’s wife and lawyers have denied he is part of a gang.In her statement to CNN, Vasquez Sura said she sought a civil protective order in 2021 after a disagreement with Abrego Garcia. Vasquez Sura noted she had survived a previous relationship that included domestic violence. She did not appear at a court hearing and the matter did not proceed."Things did not escalate, and I decided not to follow through with the civil court process,” she said in the statement. "We were able to work through this situation privately as a family, including by going to counseling. Our marriage only grew stronger in the years that followed. No one is perfect, and no marriage is perfect.”"That is not a justification for ICE’s action of abducting him and deporting him to a country where he was supposed to be protected from deportation,” she added. "Kilmar has always been a loving partner and father, and I will continue to stand by him and demand justice for him.”In court hearings over the deportation of Abrego Garcia, the federal judge overseeing the case has repeatedly asked the Justice Department to provide additional information about him, including any charges or convictions, but, so far, none has been provided. The civil protective order has not been filed in the case or been an issue in his mistaken deportation."The government made a choice here to produce no evidence,” DOJ attorney Erez Reuveni told the judge earlier this month. Reuveni was later fired.
April 17Apr 17 16 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:lol sure there’s no hypocrisy, sure thing…."Red flag laws are a slippery slope and we can’t let it happen! If you let the government temporarily confiscate guns based off of a tip, you’re opening Pandora’s box!”"There is totally no chance of a slippery slope happening with allowing the government to send people to a foreign prison without due process based off a tip.”Are libtards really at the point of hysteria that they think Trump is going to just start indiscriminately shipping people to El Salvadorian prisons? That's awesome.
April 17Apr 17 Just now, Kz! said:Are Trumptards really at the point of hysteria that they think Biden is going to just start indiscriminately taking people's guns? That's awesome. fixed your post for you. Could also read "Are Trumptards really at the point of hysteria that they think Biden is going to just start indiscriminately jailing people over their facebook posts?" Pretty much anything Trumpers warned previously about the slippery slope of government overreach that they are now not just silent about, but actually cheering on. Yes, it is quite awesome to see.
April 17Apr 17 13 hours ago, Diehardfan said:"When they detained Abrego-Garcia and the others for loitering, they highlighted that the group dropped some plastic bottles on the ground, which they say had marijuana in them.Abrego-Garcia also happened to have $1200 in cash on his person.Who among us hasn't hung out in a Home Depot parking lot at 2pm on a Thursday with heavily tattooed gang members, plastic containers with weed, and $1,200 in cash on hand?"With a domestic abuse orderBoom8 hours ago, Diehardfan said:The hole just keeps getting deeperHoly sheet, this story gets progressively more hilarious each passing day. The dude was a literal human smuggler in addition to being a confirmed MS13 gang member and a sitting US Senator is in El Salvador actively attempting to bring him back into the country. Liberals really are mentally retarded.
April 17Apr 17 11 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:fixed your post for you. Could also read "Are Trumptards really at the point of hysteria that they think Biden is going to just start indiscriminately jailing people over their facebook posts?"Pretty much anything Trumpers warned previously about the slippery slope of government overreach that they are now not just silent about, but actually cheering on. Yes, it is quite awesome to see.Great timely edit on my post, I'm currently very concerned a dude who is no longer president might take my guns away via red flag laws.
April 17Apr 17 44 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:wasn't all of this already confirmed by him wearing a bulls hat?I hear they are going after people wearing Nets' shirts next.
April 17Apr 17 2 minutes ago, Kz! said:Great timely edit on my post, I'm currently very concerned a dude who is no longer president might take my guns away via red flag laws.you can't be this stupid, right? KZAnne when a democrat is president: Beware the slippery slope of government overreach! You give the government an inch now, they take a mile later!KZAnne when a republican is president: Slippery slopes don't exist! Let the government trample violate rights!
April 17Apr 17 Once again, I'll remind the Trumpbots that the government has already admitted in court that what they did was illegal. So you can try to carry their water all you want and try to claim that what they did was fine, but they themselves don't agree with you, as they already admitted that they broke the law. At the end of the day, it just makes you look like partisan hacks and not the principled small government constitution loving people you claimed to be every time someone from the other party is president....
April 17Apr 17 3 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:Once again, I'll remind the Trumpbots that the government has already admitted in court that what they did was illegal. So you can try to carry their water all you want and try to claim that what they did was fine, but they themselves don't agree with you, as they already admitted that they broke the law. At the end of the day, it just makes you look like partisan hacks and not the principled small government constitution loving people you claimed to be every time someone from the other party is president....They'll continue to focus on the person and not the process. Weak sauce but then that's MAGA.
April 17Apr 17 6 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:you can't be this stupid, right?KZAnne when a democrat is president: Beware the slippery slope of government overreach! You give the government an inch now, they take a mile later!KZAnne when a republican is president: Slippery slopes don't exist! Let the government trample violate rights!"Dahh, I'm crying about a confirmed MS13 gang member getting deported to his homeland, better bring up red flag laws, dahhh" This thread has legitimately become the funniest one in CVON.
April 17Apr 17 Can we all just take a step back and admire the master class Trump and his admin just put on in manipulating the media and democrat politicians? They allowed the media and democrats to go all in on the idea that this dude was an upstanding Maryland man. They allow the media to whip libtards like phillytwerp into an absolute frenzy. They wait until a democrat senator touches down in El Salvador trying to retrieve this scumbag before they release ironclad evidence that, yes, he is in fact a gang member. The optics of this are just incredible. The entirety of the media and dem politicians are fighting tooth and nail to retrieve an illegal who's in a notoriously ruthless and violent gang and bring him back into the United States. They got a dem senator to literally fly into a foreign country to fight for him. This is about the clearest cut example of good versus evil you can get in politics, ladies and gentlemen. I absolutely love it.
April 17Apr 17 12 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:They'll continue to focus on the person and not the process. Weak sauce but then that's MAGA.Better stay in Sweden beech boy, they're literally rounding up foreigners here and deporting them to El Salvador without due process! It's not safe for anyone!
April 17Apr 17 Kz still not getting it. Can't say we're surprised. Wonder how long it will take for another blatant disregard for the law this idiot does.
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