March 26, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: The problem is that they’re not even showing that they want to even give the "insurance policy” a chance. First off they’ve been rap less than committed in words and actions towards Hurts. Heck even Joe Flacco said he wasn’t here to be a mentor to Hurts. He’s almost implying they’ve told him he has a real chance to be the starter. Then they’re reports they actually tried to trade up and there have been reports they’re heavily in on Watson. Picking up 3 potential 1st round picks in 2022 sure is a lot of ammo to throw at a trade. So if they don’t really believe in Hurts why draft him at all? Talk is cheap, especially with the draft around the corner. I'm not buying every rumor blindly. So far it looks to me like Hurts will be the starter and the Eagles have done nothing that makes me think otherwise so far. Roseman likes to use the media to serve his goals, so a lot of this is just putting stuff out there to get a better deal. If Hurts actually isn't the starter I will be super pissed. But I believe he is going to look like a big time star.
March 26, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, psychodog said: It's a good deal. One could make the argument that for the 2021 draft, there are no clear cut elite players that will excel at the NFL level after the first few picks. Smith, Waddle and Parsons will all probably be there at 12. As long as Howie doesn't act like himself and make a bonehead pick on day one this year, hopefully we should get a solid player. You're asking a lot
March 26, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Infam said: Talk is cheap, especially with the draft around the corner. I'm not buying every rumor blindly. So far it looks to me like Hurts will be the starter and the Eagles have done nothing that makes me think otherwise so far. Roseman likes to use the media to serve his goals, so a lot of this is just putting stuff out there to get a better deal. If Hurts actually isn't the starter I will be super pissed. But I believe he is going to look like a big time star. I don’t know what Hurts will be. I’m not ready to say he stinks like some nor am I ready to say he’s gonna be a big time star either. It’s been 4 NFL games. I’d like to see what the kid can do, but I’m not ready to proclaim him anything at this moment. You can act like this move doesn’t hurt Jalen, but it doesn’t help him either. I mean at six there were some better talents accessing to Hurts at that pick. At 12 we just don’t know who or what they may pick. That’s to assume they even stay at 12 to begin with. If all this is Howie playing games with the media then it’s just more of the same trying to be the smartest guy in the room crap that put them in this bad position in the first place.
March 26, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, RICWOOFLAIR said: Also understand the Eagles have shown us absolutely nothing for us to think they can find premiere talent outside of the top 10. As you can see they passed up Justin Jefferson and the year before passed up DK Metcalf. This year was going to be tougher to pass up talent because it was staring you right in your face. So did a bunch of other teams. Those teams had better QB play too.
March 26, 20214 yr I like the trade a lot, unless it’s a prelude to trading for Zach Wilson, Deshaun Watson, or Russel Wilson. The 11 picks before likely will be: 5 QBs 2 Offensive Lineman 3 offensive weapons 1 Defensive player. That should leave either D. Smith, Waddle, Parsons, or Surtain. I’d be happy with any of the above.
March 26, 20214 yr 34 minutes ago, kentwo said: Because this year's top WRs are seen to be special especially compared to the defensive talent. So getting someone who could be the next Julio or AJ for the next ten years is not a chance you don't want to miss. Doesn’t even matter, cause whenever the draft is loaded in any particular position the Eagles will most certainly take the Sidney Jones/Pumphrey/JJAW of that draft.
March 26, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: I don’t know what Hurts will be. I’m not ready to say he stinks like some nor am I ready to say he’s gonna be a big time star either. It’s been 4 NFL games. I’d like to see what the kid can do, but I’m not ready to proclaim him anything at this moment. You can act like this move doesn’t hurt Jalen, but it doesn’t help him either. I mean at six there were some better talents accessing to Hurts at that pick. At 12 we just don’t know who or what they may pick. That’s to assume they even stay at 12 to begin with. If all this is Howie playing games with the media then it’s just more of the same trying to be the smartest guy in the room crap that put them in this bad position in the first place. I really like picking at 12 this year. I wasn't as big on chase or Pitts like others and feel like 12 is pretty much the sweet spot this year. And yeah, I love to think we pick three times in the first next year. Sure, remains to be seen who we actually get, but if we pick a guy like Waddle or Surtain at 12 AND have that extra first that is just excellent. I'm a believer in Hurts. And in Reagor too by the way. So yeah, time will tell. But I couldn't be more confident with both of them.
March 26, 20214 yr 4 QBs 2 OTs Chase + Pitts 1 CB These are the picks that will happen for sure in the first 11. That leaves two spots, if both Smith and Waddle go, we are screwed.
March 26, 20214 yr Just now, Infam said: I really like picking at 12 this year. I wasn't as big on chase or Pitts like others and feel like 12 is pretty much the sweet spot this year. And yeah, I love to think we pick three times in the first next year. Sure, remains to be seen who we actually get, but if we pick a guy like Waddle or Surtain at 12 AND have that extra first that is just excellent. I'm a believer in Hurts. And in Reagor too by the way. So yeah, time will tell. But I couldn't be more confident with both of them. Honestly I hope you’re right about both of the Jalen’s. I don’t particularly like the move to trade back, but I get why they did it. I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded back again. In any case to me it feels like the Eagles aren’t as committed to 2021 as they seem to be to 2022. They’re not saying that, but their actions clearly suggest that.
March 26, 20214 yr Just now, D-Shiznit said: 4 QBs 2 OTs Chase + Pitts 1 CB These are the picks that will happen for sure in the first 11. That leaves two spots, if both WRs go, we are screwed. That also doesn’t take into account teams jumping ahead of the Eagles to snatch those guys up like the Packers took Ha Ha and forced them to trade back and take Marcus Smith.
March 26, 20214 yr Just now, EazyEaglez said: Honestly I hope you’re right about both of the Jalen’s. I don’t particularly like the move to trade back, but I get why they did it. I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded back again. In any case to me it feels like the Eagles aren’t as committed to 2021 as they seem to be to 2022. They’re not saying that, but their actions clearly suggest that. The owner said they want to rebuild 2-5 years. I think it can well be done in two if all things go right. But this is how you do it, if you know it needs at least two years, why not load up on that second as much as possible if you get great value for it. And hey like i said, it's pick 12. That is still a really good pick, and with a bit of luck we might get a stud AND another first.
March 26, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said: 4 QBs 2 OTs Chase + Pitts 1 CB These are the picks that will happen for sure in the first 11. That leaves two spots, if both Smith and Waddle go, we are screwed. If thats the scenario I would be fine with Parsons. Or a trade down with a team that wants Mac Jones
March 26, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said: That also doesn’t take into account teams jumping ahead of the Eagles to snatch those guys up like the Packers took Ha Ha and forced them to trade back and take Marcus Smith. Well we have 11 picks, so if there is a trade up threat, we should be able to beat it. Can see Howie trading with Denver. Just now, Bloodtype_Green said: If thats the scenario I would be fine with Parsons. Or a trade down with a team that wants Mac Jones Yeah, at that point just take Parsons, he's a stub LB waiting to happen.
March 26, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Infam said: The owner said they want to rebuild 2-5 years. I think it can well be done in two if all things go right. But this is how you do it, if you know it needs at least two years, why not load up on that second as much as possible if you get great value for it. And hey like i said, it's pick 12. That is still a really good pick, and with a bit of luck we might get a stud AND another first. Three first round 2022 picks is a nice haul for the future. It certainly gives them options. If nothing else at least commit to Hurts for 2021. Give the kid at least one season to see what he can do. I like how hard he’s working to get better. If he’s good then the Eagles have cap space and a lot of assets for the 2022 season. We just gotta get through 2021 first.
March 26, 20214 yr My initial reaction was... Yep that's a great trade. Now though I'm not so sure. With SF trading up to #3 we had a great opportunity to take the 3rd best non QB in the draft. And we trade out of the top 10? I'm not really on board with that. 1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said: Three first round 2022 picks is a nice haul for the future. It certainly gives them options. If nothing else at least commit to Hurts for 2021. Give the kid at least one season to see what he can do. I like how hard he’s working to get better. If he’s good then the Eagles have cap space and a lot of assets for the 2022 season. We just gotta get through 2021 first. My concern though is that it gives them ammo to move up next year... Next year when the QB draft potentially doesn't look great and this roster has a lot of holes. If Hurts isn't the answer then what?
March 26, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said: Three first round 2022 picks is a nice haul for the future. It certainly gives them options. If nothing else at least commit to Hurts for 2021. Give the kid at least one season to see what he can do. I like how hard he’s working to get better. If he’s good then the Eagles have cap space and a lot of assets for the 2022 season. We just gotta get through 2021 first. And that sounds like the best plan. Almost like our FO is doing it right so far. 😉 1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: My initial reaction was... Yep that's a great trade. Now though I'm not so sure. With SF trading up to #3 we had a great opportunity to take the 3rd best non QB in the draft. And we trade out of the top 10? I'm not really on board with that. My concern though is that it gives them ammo to move up next year... Next year when the QB draft potentially doesn't look great and this roster has a lot of holes. If Hurts isn't the answer then what? After a season with Hurts that concern will be gone.
March 26, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: My initial reaction was... Yep that's a great trade. Now though I'm not so sure. With SF trading up to #3 we had a great opportunity to take the 3rd best non QB in the draft. And we trade out of the top 10? I'm not really on board with that. My concern though is that it gives them ammo to move up next year... Next year when the QB draft potentially doesn't look great and this roster has a lot of holes. If Hurts isn't the answer then what? That's my fear, we passed on Fields/Lance this year, only to trade up to get an QB inferior prospect next year.
March 26, 20214 yr If this works out I will be surprised. Until otherwise proven this is a terribly run team and Howie is a POS.
March 26, 20214 yr Just now, D-Shiznit said: That's my fear, we passed on Fields/Lance this year, only to trade up to get an QB inferior prospect next year. I mean who knows maybe they have a longer term plan than that. But I can just see them using ammo next year to move up to take a QB... But the QB class right now doesn't look great.
March 26, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: My initial reaction was... Yep that's a great trade. Now though I'm not so sure. With SF trading up to #3 we had a great opportunity to take the 3rd best non QB in the draft. And we trade out of the top 10? I'm not really on board with that. My concern though is that it gives them ammo to move up next year... Next year when the QB draft potentially doesn't look great and this roster has a lot of holes. If Hurts isn't the answer then what? Lost of ammo does give them options. Tom Brady just showed that teams don’t need the next stud quarterback to be the guy to take them to a Super Bowl. We are also seeing guys playing into their 40s. It’s not beyond the realm of possibility that the Eagles could trade for their next quarterback than draft him assuming Hurts fails to do the job.
March 26, 20214 yr 59 minutes ago, b_west3 said: I like the trade...but the only thing I don't like it's trading behind Dallas and NY. I hate giving those asshat teams a chance to take someone we want just like last year. Finally someone pointed this out.
March 26, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, Infam said: And that sounds like the best plan. Almost like our FO is doing it right so far. 😉 After a season with Hurts that concern will be gone. I’ll give Howie some credit here. He’s got the Eagles with more cap space and a lot of draft capital for 2022. He’s done that right. Now he got there the wrong way, but hey. 😂
