So Fing stupid. It’s so rare to be picking as high as 6 (unless you’re the Browns, Jets or Jags), and the one chance they have to get a stud that high they trade down.  Not only down but out of the top 10 entirely. So dumb. They could have had at least one of Chase or Pitts available at their pick, if not both still in the board to pick from. 
 

 

1 minute ago, DoWorx said:

So we just traded the #6 for the #12 RIGHT behind the Giants AND Cowboys. WTF!!!!

Took notice of that too. 

I just want to beat Howie like a piñata while using a bamboo rod.

2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

He’s got the Eagles with more cap space

Have you not seen what has happened the last 3 weeks.  March 10th, the Eagles had 73 million in cap space for 2022, today they have 25 million in cap space.  March 10th, we had 136 million in cap space for 2023, today we have 100 million in cap space for 2023.

We have lost 84.2 million in cap space the next two years, and have not added 1 player under contract for either year.

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

I’ll give Howie some credit here. He’s got the Eagles with more cap space and a lot of draft capital for 2022. He’s done that right. Now he got there the wrong way, but hey. 😂

He got there the wrong way but I was 100% in on Wentz too, feels unfair to blame him for how terrible he turned out to be in the end.

And as for the cap, this covid crap was unexpected. 

40 minutes ago, downundermike said:

It is a fact we had 73 million in cap space 3 weeks ago.  It is a fact that Howie had to shave 48 million off of that cap number to clean up his own mess.  It is a fact he shaved 35.9 million off the 2023 cap number to clean up his own mess.  It is a fact that we are 23rd in cap space for 2022, and 27th in cap space for 2023.

You should be very concerned that gross mismanagement cause Howie Roseman caused the Eagles to spend 84.2 million in cap room the next two years ( also a fact ) while not adding any players to the roster.

We did not have $73 million dollars in cap space. We had $73 million dollars against an unknown number. Nobody, not you, not me, not Howie, nobody knows what the actual cap will look like next year. It is a possibility. It may or may be likely. What it is absolutely not is a fact.

The Eagles could restructure players, add in some LTBE bonuses, the cap could hit $220 million and they might be flushed with cash. They could say F it, trade Fletcher during the draft and not carry his $23 million next year.

You are worried about 2022 and 2023 on 3.26.2021. Other then complain about Howie, there is no reason to worry.

Just now, Infam said:

He got there the wrong way but I was 100% in on Wentz too, feels unfair to blame him for how terrible he turned out to be in the end.

And as for the cap, this covid crap was unexpected. 

Wentz is certainly a factor in all of this, but this wasn’t 100% on him at all. Put it this way. As much as we know Howie was in on Wentz, his actions played a huge role in his ultimate demise in Philly. Howie may have created a lot of assets, but he’s also the orchestrator of the mess to begin with. What happens if Wentz doesn’t want out? Does he even get traded? My guess is no. 

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

Wentz is certainly a factor in all of this, but this wasn’t 100% on him at all. Put it this way. As much as we know Howie was in on Wentz, his actions played a huge role in his ultimate demise in Philly. Howie may have created a lot of assets, but he’s also the orchestrator of the mess to begin with. What happens if Wentz doesn’t want out? Does he even get traded? My guess is no. 

Don't care. If a QB pick in the second round really led to him playing like he did last year I want him GONE asap anyways.

Just now, Infam said:

Don't care. If a QB pick in the second round really led to him playing like he did last year I want him GONE asap anyways.

Wish they figured that out before they let Foles go and gave him all that money. 

4 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

We did not have $73 million dollars in cap space. We had $73 million dollars against an unknown number. Nobody, not you, not me, not Howie, nobody knows what the actual cap will look like next year. It is a possibility. It may or may be likely. What it is absolutely not is a fact.

The Eagles could restructure players, add in some LTBE bonuses, the cap could hit $220 million and they might be flushed with cash. They could say F it, trade Fletcher during the draft and not carry his $23 million next year.

You are worried about 2022 and 2023 on 3.26.2021. Other then complain about Howie, there is no reason to worry.

Regardless of the actual cap number, we lost 48 million in cap space restructuring.

Right now it is projected to be 203 million, we had 73 million in space before restructures, we now have 25 million, net loss of 48 million.

If the cap is 220 million, that means we would have had 90 million in cap space, instead wi will have 42 million.  

You keep missing the point, we gave away 48 million in cap space next year to due to cap mismanagement.

Regardless of the cap number, it goes up for everyone, and we will still be 23rd in cap space available, with a ton of our allocated dollars to players over 30 years old with multiple major injuries.

I don't think you understand in the slightest what I am telling you.

1 hour ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Is this another Cardinals in 2019 situation? Cause I’m confused here. It’s from Schefter, he doesn’t get fed smoke like this nor would he tweet that. But you also don’t give up multiple first round picks in this trade up for a non QB, right? 
 

I’m very confused on this one

He’s our guy this year. They probably plan to d5aft a QB and have them develop behind Jimmy for a year.

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

Wish they figured that out before they let Foles go and gave him all that money. 

If I had my way, Foles would be the backup again and not f-ing Flacco.

That said, Hurts as the starter is so much better than Foles this season, sorry.

All the people complaining now won't be when we have at least 2 1sts next draft 

Just now, Aspiritfall said:

All the people complaining now won't be when we have at least 2 1sts next draft 

There's a chance we could have 123 in the 1st round next year.... 🤣🤣🤣

What veteran nearing 30 years old on an expiring contract will Howie trade a 1st for near the deadline?

9 minutes ago, Infam said:

Don't care. If a QB pick in the second round really led to him playing like he did last year I want him GONE asap anyways.

Look at how Drew Brees played when the Chargers drafted Rivers fourth overall, compared to how Wentz played after the Eagles drafted a QB in the second round. Brees turned himself into a legend; Wentz turned himself into the worst starting QB in the league. Embarrassing.

Just now, vaff said:

Look at how Drew Brees played when the Chargers drafted Rivers fourth overall, compared to how Wentz played after the Eagles drafted a QB in the second round. Brees turned himself into a legend; Wentz turned himself into the worst starting QB in the league. Embarrassing.

Or Rodgers for that matter, and they even used their first! 

10 minutes ago, Aspiritfall said:

All the people complaining now won't be when we have at least 2 1sts next draft 

I would’ve liked the next Julio Jones or Travis kelce over two picks next year. 

49 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

4 QBs

2 OTs

Chase + Pitts

1 CB

These are the picks that will happen for sure in the first 11.

That leaves two spots, if both Smith and Waddle go, we are screwed.

I think Jaycee Horn or Smith would be excellent for us. Both will most probably be there. 

28 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Wish they figured that out before they let Foles go and gave him all that money. 

Can you imagine? I mean, I was on board with keeping Wentz, but had they traded him 2 years ago, the Eagles would have gotten an absurd amount of picks. Now we would have tons of ammo, a better cap situation and the same number of SBs. Had Foles struggled like in Jax or Chicago, it would have been easier to grab a QB this year or even trade for Wilson, Watson or Stafford. 

23 minutes ago, Portyansky said:

There's a chance we could have 123 in the 1st round next year.... 🤣🤣🤣

.00000009% but I guess there is a chance 

I never saw Chase as generational and fine with not taking him at 6. Really want that true physical freak aka Julio to take a WR there. With all the QBs going we still can get a stud player, but this has always felt like a Mac Jones draft #QBfactory 

I really like the concept here. I think too many Eagles fans had huge draft crushes this year on players we may not need. We moved back just far enough that people won't be crying about, " you don't use a #6 pick on a insert position here." I still believe our biggest needs are on defense and specifically at CB. I'm pretty sure dallas will take Surtain, but we should still have a shot at either Farley or Horn if we go CB. Maybe Parsons is still available and ... you never know ...

Now, I don't think we need a WR early, like so many others here. We have guys with upside on the roster. Too many people have slammed their fists on the panic button just because 2020 was an offensive disaster. But, I still think either one of : Chase, Smith, Pitts, Waddle --- will still be available at #12.

In conclusion, I think this was the right thing to do this year. 

Hard to believe this GM still has a job.  He’s been arguably the worst GM in the nfl since 2017

57 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Have you not seen what has happened the last 3 weeks.  March 10th, the Eagles had 73 million in cap space for 2022, today they have 25 million in cap space.  March 10th, we had 136 million in cap space for 2023, today we have 100 million in cap space for 2023.

We have lost 84.2 million in cap space the next two years, and have not added 1 player under contract for either year.

The difference in cap space down the line doesn't mean much.  The team will have plenty of room to sign whoever it wants.

It wasn't so long ago the faithful were cursing the team for being too cheap by having a lot of cap space.

50 minutes ago, Aspiritfall said:

All the people complaining now won't be when we have at least 2 1sts next draft 

Yes I will, because that Dolphins first is going to be in the lower half of the first. They are very possibly a playoff team next year. 
 

Howie can’t draft. That’s why it’s important to pick as high as possible to be in position for one of the handful of "almost sure thing” players. Once you’re outside the top 10, it’s way more of a crap shoot. And Howie sucks at that.