Eagles players to skip voluntary OTA's

[Cochis_Calhoun]

On 4/20/2021 at 2:58 AM, brkmsn said:

It has everything to do with professional athletes getting soft and their general work ethic. Why else would they choose this path? They want to make more money each year and at the same time, work less and take less risks. 

If you want to take less risks, take less pay. 

Sorry but this is horseshit, the players and the product on the field is the reason the owners get billions for TV rights, their money is a percentage of revenue it should go up as the TV money goes up, the owners are the one's getting money they don't earn, they take a majority of the money from TV and still hold taxpayers to ransom to fund new stadiums.

Owning an NFL team is a license to print money and the most work Lurie does is appear on TV a couple of times a year, a few charity fundraisers and sit in an airconditioned suite watching 16-20 games of football every year and for that he takes home way more than any player on the roster.

There isn't a billionaire alive that didn't make most of his money off the back of someone else, more often than not thousands of somebody elses.

[The Blackfish]

15 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Sorry but this is horseshit, the players and the product on the field is the reason the owners get billions for TV rights, their money is a percentage of revenue it should go up as the TV money goes up, the owners are the one's getting money they don't earn, they take a majority of the money from TV and still hold taxpayers to ransom to fund new stadiums.

Owning an NFL team is a license to print money and the most work Lurie does is appear on TV a couple of times a year, a few charity fundraisers and sit in an airconditioned suite watching 16-20 games of football every year and for that he takes home way more than any player on the roster.

There isn't a billionaire alive that didn't make most of his money off the back of someone else, more often than not thousands of somebody elses.

 Worse part is 16 games wasn’t enough, they had to add another knowing full well how often injuries play a part in teams success or failure. 
 The NFLPA is far weaker than the MLB and NBA’s players unions. 

[Procus]

26 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

 Worse part is 16 games wasn’t enough, they had to add another knowing full well how often injuries play a part in teams success or failure. 
 The NFLPA is far weaker than the MLB and NBA’s players unions. 

I have little concern for the players and how well they are organized.  They are getting a majority chunk of the earnings and would not be in a position to realize this without the owners ability to secure new stadiums and hefty TV contracts. 

I selfishly just consider my vantage point as a fan for the past 40 years.  To me, that confers a good deal of standing to express my opinion.

[Traveler Vic]

5 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Sorry but this is horseshit, the players and the product on the field is the reason the owners get billions for TV rights, their money is a percentage of revenue it should go up as the TV money goes up, the owners are the one's getting money they don't earn, they take a majority of the money from TV and still hold taxpayers to ransom to fund new stadiums.

Owning an NFL team is a license to print money and the most work Lurie does is appear on TV a couple of times a year, a few charity fundraisers and sit in an airconditioned suite watching 16-20 games of football every year and for that he takes home way more than any player on the roster.

There isn't a billionaire alive that didn't make most of his money off the back of someone else, more often than not thousands of somebody elses.

Socialists always think like this. I prefer having an opportunity to move up..like USA, instead of bottom miserable equality for everyone like USSR, Venezuela, etc.. 

[Traveler Vic]

5 hours ago, The Blackfish said:

 Worse part is 16 games wasn’t enough, they had to add another knowing full well how often injuries play a part in teams success or failure. 
 The NFLPA is far weaker than the MLB and NBA’s players unions. 

Free Country. Anyone who doesn't want to play is welcome to apply at UPS.

[brkmsn]

6 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Sorry but this is horseshit, the players and the product on the field is the reason the owners get billions for TV rights, their money is a percentage of revenue it should go up as the TV money goes up, the owners are the one's getting money they don't earn, they take a majority of the money from TV and still hold taxpayers to ransom to fund new stadiums.

Owning an NFL team is a license to print money and the most work Lurie does is appear on TV a couple of times a year, a few charity fundraisers and sit in an airconditioned suite watching 16-20 games of football every year and for that he takes home way more than any player on the roster.

There isn't a billionaire alive that didn't make most of his money off the back of someone else, more often than not thousands of somebody elses.

I don't care if the owners are all trillionaires. All the "backs" they are making money off of are in the top 1%. Let's stop pretending that there is some sort of injustice happening here.

6 hours ago, The Blackfish said:

 Worse part is 16 games wasn’t enough, they had to add another knowing full well how often injuries play a part in teams success or failure. 
 The NFLPA is far weaker than the MLB and NBA’s players unions. 

Sometimes another week is what a player needs to heal. In other words, there's an argument to be made that extending the season will allow players to be healthier for a larger percentage of the season. Also, while injuries suck, they provide opportunities for lower paid players to earn pay raises. Players like AJ Feely, Brock Osweiler, Nick Foles, Kurt Warner, etc... have all benefitted from this financially. Finally, I've never heard a player complain because his team made the playoffs and now he has to play another stinking game. I mean, a wild card team that makes it to the Super Bowl plays 20 (non-preseason games).

[The Blackfish]

1 hour ago, Traveler Vic said:

Free Country. Anyone who doesn't want to play is welcome to apply at UPS.

Playing has nothing to do with it, winning does and if your best players are worn, hurt and injured, you aren’t winning.  Why not play 20, or 30 or even 40 games??   What makes the NFL special compared to every other sport in the world is the short season.  Quality over quantity, is why the NFL rules in the US. 

[Traveler Vic]

38 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

Playing has nothing to do with it, winning does and if your best players are worn, hurt and injured, you aren’t winning.  Why not play 20, or 30 or even 40 games??   What makes the NFL special compared to every other sport in the world is the short season.  Quality over quantity, is why the NFL rules in the US. 

Public demands more NFL. Owners are just a messengers. NFL draft used to be just managers getting together in a dark hall. Now it is a 3 day televised event. Look at the Big Picture.

[Procus]

3 hours ago, The Blackfish said:

Playing has nothing to do with it, winning does and if your best players are worn, hurt and injured, you aren’t winning.  Why not play 20, or 30 or even 40 games??   What makes the NFL special compared to every other sport in the world is the short season.  Quality over quantity, is why the NFL rules in the US. 

You do realize that before 1978, there were 6 preseason games and 14 regular season games.  As it stands now, the preseason is still too long at 4 games.

Maybe we should go back to a 14 game schedule, why not back to a 12 game schedule, or better yet, an 8 game schedule according to your line of thinking.

[Cochis_Calhoun]

11 hours ago, Traveler Vic said:

Socialists always think like this. I prefer having an opportunity to move up..like USA, instead of bottom miserable equality for everyone like USSR, Venezuela, etc.. 

Yeah, people who don't understand socialism, capitalism or indeed politics much at all always post dumb crap like this.

Apologies MOD6 I know we shouldn't do politics in TATE, but he started it.

[Traveler Vic]

14 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Yeah, people who don't understand socialism, capitalism or indeed politics much at all always post dumb crap like this.

Apologies MOD6 I know we shouldn't do politics in TATE, but he started it.

Let's talk Football and Only Football Cochis. No more Politics. We have an upcoming draft and I am all inn focusing on it. Apologies.

[NOTW]

They can do zoom meetings from their hotels on vacation and play rock paper scissors. 

[hputenis]

22 minutes ago, NOTW said:

They can do zoom meetings from their hotels on vacation and play rock paper scissors. 

Here's Sirianni on the SEPTA after 2 UDFAs didn't wanna play him in Risk.  

 

[NOTW]

Hey Siri scripting up practice sessions for OTA's.

[Talonblood]

On 4/18/2021 at 11:41 AM, HazletonEagle said:

the players and coaches arent allowed to have any contact. So that has no bearing on this story. However, it is still BS that they can organize their own camps, and work out at various other performance facilities, and then say its unsafe for them to come lift weights at the team facility. They are using COVID as an excuse, when convenient, to be controlled less by the team and have more free time in the already long offseason.

NBA players sweating are all over each other, but NFL players and coaches can have no contact? Because.... sanity.

[Road to Victory]

On 4/19/2021 at 3:13 PM, Green_Guinness said:

Using the excuse of COVID is bad form, IMO.  These guys are out at bars/restaurants and they're worrying about working out in the same building/room and maybe doing some walk throughs learning a new system?  This is more likely the players giving the owners the middle finger for the 17th game with no pay raise for extra work.  If the players came out and said such instead of using COVID as an excuse then I think loads more people would understand and not be all that upset. 

The 17th game is stupid and I don't like it.  Players are bigger, faster, and stronger than the last team the league expanded the schedule from 14 games to 16.  That's another game to get beat up and put in a position to get injured while the owners/League failed to add an extra bye week or make a change to the schedule so teams playing on Thursday (another stupid and greedy thing that I hate) would be coming off their bye week instead of only having 4 days rest.  However, it does seem when practices had more contact and game speed than these lighter practices that exist now that not as many players got hurt because their bodies were better adjusted to game speed and contact.

 

Lame excuse by the players. There’s also vaccines that appear to be working very, very well. Get the vaccine and play ball. 

[Hawkeye]

On 4/28/2021 at 11:36 AM, Talonblood said:

NBA players sweating are all over each other, but NFL players and coaches can have no contact? Because.... sanity.

I don't think that's what he meant.  Per the CBA players and coaches aren't allowed to meet or even discuss football during Phase 1 of the OTAs, which is what they're in. 

[Talonblood]

3 hours ago, Hawkeye said:

I don't think that's what he meant.  Per the CBA players and coaches aren't allowed to meet or even discuss football during Phase 1 of the OTAs, which is what they're in. 

Tell me, what does OTA stand for?