3 hours ago, Kz! said:

Pull the quotes, Nostradamus. Let's see em.

There were plenty of articles out there talking about it as soon as the vaccines started meeting up with the mutations.  I've been on board with the yearly combo covid-flu shot since I first read about it.  We also knew that the first vaxes were imperfect, blockers meant to get us by until we developed something better.

Good. Hoping Biden gets prison time for trying to ram this through. Scumbag.

 

I'm sorry is that *squints* 93% vaccinated Ireland. *rubs eyes* *squints again*

Well that's unfortunate. 

Friend is being intubated today.  He is making no progress. Was due to see them at a dinner this weekend for another friends 60th birthday.  So incredibly sad.

Sorry to hear that di

22 minutes ago, DiPros said:

Friend is being intubated today.  He is making no progress. Was due to see them at a dinner this weekend for another friends 60th birthday.  So incredibly sad.

Very sorry to hear that. I'll keep them in my prayers.

29 minutes ago, DiPros said:

Friend is being intubated today.  He is making no progress. Was due to see them at a dinner this weekend for another friends 60th birthday.  So incredibly sad.

That sucks, sorry Di.

Wonder what his odds are?  He is tall, not overweight, no underlying health issues.  Maybe 50/50?  I'm not going to look it up.

Why Spain has avoided Europe's COVID surge

https://news.yahoo.com/why-spain-has-avoided-europes-covid-surge-100025909.html

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As most of Europe suffers a COVID-anxiety attack, however, la buena vida continues in Spain. Crowds revel at terrace bars, drinking sangria and eating tapas into the night, the clubs have reopened, crowds frolic at beach parties and wine festivals, and unlike in many Western European countries, a vaccine passport is still not required. According to Statista, the COVID rate in Spain over the past seven days is 46 per 100,000 population, compared to Austria at 851, the Netherlands at 539 and Slovenia at 1,058.

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The reason for the relatively carefree mood across Spain, said Dr. Daniel Lopez-Acuña, former director of Health Action in Crisis at WHO, is the country’s very high vaccination rate, nearing 90 percent of those 12 and older, and its continued protection measures, like indoor mask mandates, which, unlike most places, Spain never dropped.

Those precautions are paying off. "Spain is doing particularly well compared to other European countries,” Lopez-Acuña told Yahoo News, crediting health agencies, stringent class-size reductions and mask wearing in schools, and a science-accepting public, as well as long-enduring COVID restrictions.

Oh.

 

Vaccines, masks and mandates work.

 

Oh.

Moderna is requesting EUA for boosters for all adults.

 

16 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Why Spain has avoided Europe's COVID surge

https://news.yahoo.com/why-spain-has-avoided-europes-covid-surge-100025909.html

Oh.

 

Vaccines, masks and mandates work.

 

Oh.

That article is strange because Spain is dealing with an uptick in cases and their 14-day cumulative number of cases per 100,000 inhabitants is at 82.

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The epidemiological curve of the coronavirus in Spain is once again on an upward trend, with cases rising at an accelerating rate. According to the latest Health Ministry report, released on Monday evening, the 14-day cumulative number of cases per 100,000 inhabitants now stands at 82. This is up nearly 11 points from Friday, the previous day for which data is available as no figures are released on the weekend. In comparison, last Monday, November 8, the incidence rate rose just five points over the same time period.

In just two weeks, the incidence rate in Spain has risen 67%. Although the number of cases in Spain is still well below those being reported in many other European countries, in some regions, such as the Basque Country and Navarre, infection rates are double the national average. Hospital admissions for Covid-19 are also slowly rising and some regional governments are now considering introducing restrictions to control the spread of the virus.

https://english.elpais.com/society/2021-11-16/coronavirus-contagions-in-spain-accelerate-as-incidence-hits-82-cases-per-100000-inhabitants.html

Still, their numbers are better than much of Europe even the countries with similar vaccination rates and restrictions. Very odd.

4 hours ago, Toastrel said:

 

First human trial of Alzheimer's disease nasal vaccine to begin at Boston hospital

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alzheimers-disease-nasal-vaccine-human-trial-to-begin-at-boston-hospital/

A vaccine that can stop mental degenerative disease? That sounds like something the Trump supporters can easily be 100% against.

Unfortunate that you wound up in the placebo group. Better luck next time.  

 

https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/ets2?fbclid=IwAR36MvVyHTPw_1IwcBwDgfR17PFewyrlq5EumW7p4UwW_PTwXYO7FHBZiKM

On November 12, 2021, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit granted a motion to stay OSHA's COVID-19 Vaccination and Testing Emergency Temporary Standard, published on November 5, 2021 (86 Fed. Reg. 61402) ("ETS"). The court ordered that OSHA "take no steps to implement or enforce" the ETS "until further court order." While OSHA remains confident in its authority to protect workers in emergencies, OSHA has suspended activities related to the implementation and enforcement of the ETS pending future developments in the litigation.

13 hours ago, Toastrel said:

 

You want to suck what?

Mask-wearing cuts Covid incidence by 53%, says global study

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/17/wearing-masks-single-most-effective-way-to-tackle-covid-study-finds

 

How not shocking.

10 hours ago, lynched1 said:

You want to suck what?

We all want you to stop sucking.

Because, let me tell you, you suck.

You’ve got a friend in Pennsylvania.  Wow.

https://www.goerie.com/story/news/2021/11/15/pa-covid-cases-county/49380023/

12 hours ago, lynched1 said:

You want to suck what?

 

18 hours ago, DiPros said:

Wonder what his odds are?  He is tall, not overweight, no underlying health issues.  Maybe 50/50?  I'm not going to look it up.

If he was intubated his chances are pretty grim unfortunately. Hopefully he’ll be one of the lucky ones. 

18 hours ago, DiPros said:

Wonder what his odds are?  He is tall, not overweight, no underlying health issues.  Maybe 50/50?  I'm not going to look it up.

Last I saw it was, on average, better than that (mortality somewhere in the 20-40s depending on the study you look). With new techniques and management strategies the numbers seemed to be improving as the pandemic went on (initially mortality was much higher, I saw 80 once in a very early and small study) but I don't know how/if delta changes that now. Age is also another factor that increases risk. 

Hope he pulls through Di.

1 hour ago, Talkingbirds said:

You’ve got a friend in Pennsylvania.  Wow.

https://www.goerie.com/story/news/2021/11/15/pa-covid-cases-county/49380023/

MI is getting lit up too. These anti-vaxxers are about to find out how much more insidious Delta is compared to OG covid. Same for parents on the fence about getting their kids vaxed. My kids are in between doses and we had to pull them out of school yesterday due to a close call. I am not at all interested in F'ing around and finding out now that we are so close to being able to fully protect them. 

those of you who have gotten the booster, how hard did it hit you compared to the original vaccination?

2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

those of you who have gotten the booster, how hard did it hit you compared to the original vaccination?

Same as second dose. Arm was sore for a day (difficult to sleep on since I'm a side sleeper) but fine after that.

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

Last I saw it was, on average, better than that (mortality somewhere in the 20-40s depending on the study you look). With new techniques and management strategies the numbers seemed to be improving as the pandemic went on (initially mortality was much higher, I saw 80 once in a very early and small study) but I don't know how/if delta changes that now. Age is also another factor that increases risk. 

Hope he pulls through Di.

I do too.  I did look it up and saw different numbers as well.  Like you said the studies are a little skewed since they are counting the really high numbers in the beginning.  What I read about being mechanically ventilated is crazy.  Are there different types of O2-the rate-and then the criteria to determine if it is helping him or not?  It's a little over my head.  Let alone the risk for further lung injury, loss of muscle mass, and other physical therapy issues he will have if by some miracle he comes out of it.

1 hour ago, Jsvand12 said:

If he was intubated his chances are pretty grim unfortunately. Hopefully he’ll be one of the lucky ones. 

Thank you, I hope so too.

41 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Same as second dose. Arm was sore for a day (difficult to sleep on since I'm a side sleeper) but fine after that.

After seeing some of you in here with no adverse or different effects from the boosters shot, and it should get open to all adults within the next week or so, I went ahead and scheduled my booster.  Sticking with the Moderna.  Dec 1-just under 7 months out from 2nd dose.