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1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

 

 

So less than half:ph34r:

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    Im home! Pulse ox on room air in the mid 90s. Feeling much better! Thank you for all of the well wishes.  I tested negative on Thursday and again this morning.  F u covid, you can suck muh deek

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Wuhan has tested 9.89 million people during its ten-day citywide nucleic test campaign, found 300 asymptomatic carriers, and no confirmed cases,” a municipality official said, according to daily Global Times.

100% believable

4 hours ago, Toastrel said:

You don't owe me anything. The people in your community you do kill, you might owe them something.

In my community we've pretty much had the *** of this exercise in collective stupidity. 

6 hours ago, Toastrel said:

You don't owe me anything. The people in your community you do kill, you might owe them something.

You owe it to yourself to stop watching the lies being spewed on the mainstream news outlets.

On 6/1/2020 at 8:18 AM, Toastrel said:

Oh goody. The President is sending Brazil that medicine that he maybe took and stopped taking because it is more likely to kill you than cure COVID.

This is what I'm talking about, you should listen to what the physicians who give hydroxy to their patients and hear what they have to say, just in case you don't know, they say it works 98% of the time within hours. 

But no you'd rather listen to Fauci and others who haven't been in a laboratory or treated patients in 3-4 decades, they're nothing more than puppets.   

1 hour ago, EagleVA said:

This is what I'm talking about, you should listen to what the physicians who give hydroxy to their patients and hear what they have to say, just in case you don't know, they say it works 98% of the time within hours. 

But no you'd rather listen to Fauci and others who haven't been in a laboratory or treated patients in 3-4 decades, they're nothing more than puppets.   

What physicians do you know giving out hydroxychloroquine.

A drug NOT PROVEN to help with COVID, but you'd rather listen to Trump and any other idiot, as long as they agree with you on abortion and second amendment.

4 hours ago, lynched1 said:

In my community we've pretty much had the *** of this exercise in collective stupidity. 

Choosing instead the collective stupidity of not preventing the spread of infection during a pandemic.

Congrats. Good luck with that.

6 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Wuhan has tested 9.89 million people during its ten-day citywide nucleic test campaign, found 300 asymptomatic carriers, and no confirmed cases,” a municipality official said, according to daily Global Times.

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2 hours ago, EagleVA said:

This is what I'm talking about, you should listen to what the physicians who give hydroxy to their patients and hear what they have to say, just in case you don't know, they say it works 98% of the time within hours. 

But no you'd rather listen to Fauci and others who haven't been in a laboratory or treated patients in 3-4 decades, they're nothing more than puppets.   

My dad is a physician working in a New York City hospital.  Hydroxychloroquine has not been proven to be effective in combating COVID-19. 

Update from 6/1 from the doc.  Very interesting info in this one regarding monoclonal antibodies

https://www.nothingbutthetruthmd.com/2020/06/6120-covid-19-update.html

THIS FRIDAY I WILL STOP MAKING DAILY POSTS.  GOING FORWARD, I WILL BE MAKING A WEEKLY POST EVERY SUNDAY.  IF SOMETHING REALLY INTERESTING WERE TO POP UP I WILL MAKE ADDITIONAL POSTS.
 
Certainly these have been unique times for all of us,  This situation, more than most, made it possible to help people really in need, many in dire straits.  If one can be grateful for such an opportunity, then I am grateful.  I am thankful that I was kept safe, I regret that so many were not.
 
I want to sincerely thank those who helped, made comments and suggestions, and most of all, to many of you who forwarded these emails to others,  I hope that you gained insight and gained comfort from the information that I tried to provide.
 
 
CONSIDERATIONS FOR PUBLIC POOLS, HOT TUBS, AND WATER PLAYGROUNDS DURING COVID-19
CDC
MAY 22, 2020
 
1.  Hand hygiene - encourage all staff, patrons and simmers to wash their hands often, and cover their coughs and sneezes
 
2.  Face coverings - encourage the use of face coverings as feasible.  fast coverings are most essential in times when physical distancing is difficult.  advise those wearing face coverings not to wear them in the water.  there is no doubt that surgical masks are more effective than cloth face masks in decreasing the respiratory transmission of the virus.  I have noticed that surgical face masks seem to be both available and affordable on Amazon and I would strongly recommend using a surgical mask because of its increased efficacy.
 
3.  Staying home - educating staff, patrons and simmers about when to stay home.  I think it would be advisable to obtain the help of knowledgeable medical personnel or public health officials to create standard policy about appropriate health status for visiting these venues, public or private.
 
4.  Adequate supplies - there should be adequate soap, sanitizer, paper towels and no touch trash cans
 
5.  Signs and messages - posting signs about how to achieve proper hand hygiene, safe distancing and wearing masks properly
 
6.  Cleaning and disinfecting - cleaning and disinfecting frequently touched surfaces at least daily and shared objects after each time they are used.
 
7.  Modified Layouts - changing layouts to ensure that people can maintain at least six foot spacing between guests
 
8.  Shared objects - discourage people from sharing items that are difficult to clean, sanitize or disinfect.  Discourage the sharing of items such as food, equipment and supplies with those they don't live with.
 
It is your health at stake.  If policies such as this are not apparent, you need ask why.
 
 
MONOCLONAL ANTIBODIES
 
Eli Lilly Pharmaceutical and AbCellera will begin Phase one testing on their joint venture monoclonal antibody preparation.  This venture began when Eli Lilly obtained convalescent serum from a patient who had recovered from Covid-19.  Scientists sifted through millions of cells and isolated hundreds of antibodies.  
 
Abcellera and the Vaccine Research Center at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease selected those antibodies that they thought were most potent and Lilly scientists engineered the treatment. (monoclonal antibodies)
 
When the treatment was used on viral cells under laboratory conditions it blocked the ability of the virus to infect the cells.
 
A randomized, placebo controlled, double blinded (neither the doctor nor the patient will know whether they are getting drug or placebo)  Phase I study will begin shortly and should conclude by late June.  Lilly has already started manufacturing the treatment in scale so that not a single day will be lost if it is beneficial.Emoji
 
 
Numbers: 1800 from the Hopkins website
 
Tests - 403,791 tests in the last 24 hours
 
USA - 1,804,206 (up 1.01%, down from 1.21%, 3183 fewer cases than the day before)EmojiEmoji
 
New York - 371,771 (up 0.25%, down from 0.30%, 169 fewer new cases than the day before)EmojiEmoji
 
New Jersey - 160,918 (up 0.29%, down from 0.52%, 364 fewer new cases than the day before)EmojiEmoji
 
Pennsylvania - 761,646 ( 949 new cases over the last 48 hours)
 
Maryland - 53,327 (up 1.42%, down from 1.46%, 10 fewer new cases than the day before)EmojiEmoji
 
California - 112,979 (up 2.28%, down from 2.26%, 331 fewer new cases than the day before)EmojiEmoji
 
South Carolina - 12,149 (up 2.42%, down from 4/09% 179 fewer new cases than the day before)EmojiEmoji
 
Texas - 65,584 (up 2.21%, down from 4.07%, 1093 fewer new cases than the day before)EmojiEmoji
 
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Have a good night
 
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6/2 update from the doc

https://www.nothingbutthetruthmd.com/2020/06/6220-covid-19-update.html

Airborne Spread of SARS-CoV-2 and a Potential and a Possible Role for Air Disinfection
JAMA
June 1, 2020
 
Since wearing mask by Healthcare Workers and non Healthcare Workers is justified and known to reduce the airborne transmission of Covid-19, what role might air disinfection have in reducing the spread of Covid-19? This could be important in reducing air borne transmission in public settings.
 
Currently there are two methods of air disinfection that are efficacious:
 
1. room air cleaners (filters with UV light)
 
2.  Upper room germicidal UV filters
 
According to the CDC, effective air disinfection requires six to twelve room air turnovers per hour.  
This can be achieved by:
 
1.   natural ventilation under favorable outdoor conditions
 
2.  Mechanical Ventilation Systems designed for high flow rates
 
3.  Portable room air cleaners
 
4.  Germicidal Ultra Violet filter systems 
 
Airborne transmission means the direct spread of large respiratory droplets from an infectious source to the eyes, nose or mouth of another person without the intermediary transfer by hands or fomites. (which we now know probably only represents six percent of the infectious transfers)
 
THE MODERNA VACCINE BRIEFLY
 
An RNA vaccine that has now been tested in various doses in 45 volunteers.  The age range was 18-45.  Eight subjects who received the lowest doses of vaccine were tested for immune response and all mounted an immune response but unfortunately we do not know what this means.
 
How it works - the RNA (not a whole virus) is injected into the subject and the virus gets into our cells and begins the translational process of replication of virus that is then released into the body and are recognized as non-self by our immune system and an antibody response is mounted..  There is one protein that is recognized for this vaccine, the spiked glycoprotein, which enables the virus to enter into host cells.  
 
The advantage of an RNA vaccine is that it can be easily manufactured in large quantities.  The disadvantage is that there has never been one before, anywhere in the world, so the FDA has no precedent guideline.
 
The next phase will be a study of 600 volunteers, some will be over the age of 55.  If safety is demonstrated there will be an efficacy trial.
 
An efficacy trial can be conducted in two ways:
 
1.  large population study - blinded, randomized and placebo controlled to determine efficacy.  This would take considerable time.
 
2.  Human challenge study - in which volunteers who have been vaccinated are given a live virus.  This is quick and cheap but has never been done for a disease for which we have no cure, so ethically troublesome. 
 
 
NUMBERS:  1800 From the Hopkins Website
 
Tests - 417,156 tests in the last 24 hours
 
USA - 1,827,206 (up 1.27%, up from 1.01%)Emoji
 
New York - 373,040 (up 0.35%, up from 0.25%)Emoji
 
New Jersey - 161,545 (up 0.38%, up from 0.29%Pennsylvania - 77,225 (up 0.75%)
 
Maryland - 54,175 (up 1.59%, up from 1.42%)Emoji
 
California - 115,909 (up 2.59%, up from 2.25%)Emoji
 
South Carolina - 12,415 ( up 2.18% down from 2.42%, 22 fewer new cases than the day before)EmojiEmoji
 
Texas - 66,568 (up 1.50%, down from 2.04%, 435 fewer new cases than the day before)EmojiEmoji
 
Texas is up in bed utilization for the third day, California is up for two of the last three days
 
 
Have a great night
 
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@Phillyterp85 Does your dad think we'll be seeing a huge spike in cases nationally in the next 2 weeks?

Just now, Mike030270 said:

@Phillyterp85 Does your dad think we'll be seeing a huge spike in cases nationally in the next 2 weeks?

I'll ask him.    Hard to gauge what % of protesters have been wearing masks as there's so many different protests going on.   

11 hours ago, Toastrel said:

Choosing instead the collective stupidity of not preventing the spread of infection during a pandemic.

Congrats. Good luck with that.

Check the stats. The projected fatality rate get more insignificant every day.

Wake up.

 

13 hours ago, EagleVA said:

This is what I'm talking about, you should listen to what the physicians who give hydroxy to their patients and hear what they have to say, just in case you don't know, they say it works 98% of the time within hours. 

But no you'd rather listen to Fauci and others who haven't been in a laboratory or treated patients in 3-4 decades, they're nothing more than puppets.   

🤣🤣

 

Yeah let's listen to Trump who hasn't treated a patient..EVER!  Dude listen to yourself.  Nobody thinks Fauci is in the lab burning a hole in his socket with a microscope.  He is the top virologist who decides what is relevant and what isn't from what OTHERS do in the lab and is one of the most qualified people in the world to do that.

 

Is Hydroxy a 100% open/shut case?  No, it isn't, pat yourself on the back.  Some countries are actively using it, others have BANNED it, including France.  But in the case of the US, we are not the crazy ones for taking Fauci's word over f'ing Trump's.

8 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

Check the stats. The projected fatality rate get more insignificant every day.

Wake up.

 

Only 100,000 dead. No big deal.

 

Check your brain, I think you are sitting on it.

18 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

Check the stats. The projected fatality rate get more insignificant every day.

Wake up.

 

Sure, but the fact that we can still spread it when we are asymptotic is why we still need to social distance and /or mask up when around others, especially strangers. And if you are too much of a tuff guy to do that, I hope you are avoiding your vulnerable relatives. I realize that might be tough, being related to everyone in your county and all 

I don't know where to post this, but given Corona being a major player in shutdowns, this thread seems like a fitting place.

While I have nothing against Small Businesses... I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape over them. Clearly right now the issue is "small businesses are being forced to close by state governments! Small businesses are owned by local community members with families! That business owner now struggles to put food on the table for hit family!" etc. etc. etc.

Before COVID, I've seen similar complaints brought up every time a Walmart or Target or some other large corporation has come to town and "forced local/small businesses to close because they can't afford to stay open"

In my experience these small businesses are more expensive than the larger entities for the identical items as well as having less availability of stock or availability of options, so they aren't providing some added value to the consumer, which is a necessity of staying in business in society controlled by capitalism.

 

Also... these small business owners deal with running a business, all the interviewing/hiring, all the finances/accounting, all the ordering/inventory/etc., and COUNTLESS other things. Other than a "sense of pride" for owning/running their own place, what are the only other tangible benefits that they get? 1. they don't have a boss to answer to; 2. maybe they have the opportunity to make a LOT of money.

But do you know what someone with all those qualifications can and should be able to do? Be the store manager of Walmart or Target or grocery store or countless other places that EASILY offer 6-figure salaries with healthcare benefits, retirement funds and company matching, etc. These people SHOULD have all the qualifications to easily put food on the table and clothes on the backs of their family while living a comfortable life. But they'd have to answer to a boss, or multiple bosses. Or they maybe only make a fixed salary and a BOOM year for the company isn't going to make them any extra money.

But if you own a local record store or hardware store or any things that are common "small businesses" in the community, the staff is probably making something close to minimum wage with no benefits or anything else beyond their $10/hr paycheck. So the small business that's "creating jobs" in their community is probably creating less stability and compensation than the local McDonalds would be offering them. 

So I guess I don't understand why so much attention/emotion is focused on small businesses and if there is something here I am just missing or not seeing?

1 minute ago, Agent23 said:

I don't know where to post this, but given Corona being a major player in shutdowns, this thread seems like a fitting place.

While I have nothing against Small Businesses... I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape over them. Clearly right now the issue is "small businesses are being forced to close by state governments! Small businesses are owned by local community members with families! That business owner now struggles to put food on the table for hit family!" etc. etc. etc.

Before COVID, I've seen similar complaints brought up every time a Walmart or Target or some other large corporation has come to town and "forced local/small businesses to close because they can't afford to stay open"

In my experience these small businesses are more expensive than the larger entities for the identical items as well as having less availability of stock or availability of options, so they aren't providing some added value to the consumer, which is a necessity of staying in business in society controlled by capitalism.

 

Also... these small business owners deal with running a business, all the interviewing/hiring, all the finances/accounting, all the ordering/inventory/etc., and COUNTLESS other things. Other than a "sense of pride" for owning/running their own place, what are the only other tangible benefits that they get? 1. they don't have a boss to answer to; 2. maybe they have the opportunity to make a LOT of money.

But do you know what someone with all those qualifications can and should be able to do? Be the store manager of Walmart or Target or grocery store or countless other places that EASILY offer 6-figure salaries with healthcare benefits, retirement funds and company matching, etc. These people SHOULD have all the qualifications to easily put food on the table and clothes on the backs of their family while living a comfortable life. But they'd have to answer to a boss, or multiple bosses. Or they maybe only make a fixed salary and a BOOM year for the company isn't going to make them any extra money.

But if you own a local record store or hardware store or any things that are common "small businesses" in the community, the staff is probably making something close to minimum wage with no benefits or anything else beyond their $10/hr paycheck. So the small business that's "creating jobs" in their community is probably creating less stability and compensation than the local McDonalds would be offering them. 

So I guess I don't understand why so much attention/emotion is focused on small businesses and if there is something here I am just missing or not seeing?

 

Oh and don't tell them the quintessential "mom n pop" corner store is mostly run by Arabs now.

we ordered takeout for only the 3rd time since covid-19 last night.  again, the employees in the restaurant were not wearing masks. :nonono:   

so that's 1 nepa mexican place, 1 nepa brick oven pizza place & 1 nepa turkish place where the employees weren't wearing masks. we're really trying to help out the local places but we won't be back to any of them. 

(not to mention, the turkish place forgot our baklava) <_<

Just now, dawkins4prez said:

 

Oh and don't tell them the quintessential "mom n pop" corner store is mostly run by Arabs now.

We had one of those near my old apartment. Only thing in the area open past 9pm (other than grocery store and fast food restaurants) so I would stop in if I was on my way home and wanted a snack. 

I'm not against these places and prefer in most cases to eat and locally owned/ran restaurants, but so many of these places is literally someone who doesn't want to answer to anyone else, have authority to hire/fire/boss around anyone they wish, thinks of it as a way to get rich (aka, make more money than doing something else), or are pursuing a dream. Yeah, those are nice and all, but nobody cares about me achieving or having any of those things so why should we all care about them trying to do that?

2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

we ordered takeout for only the 3rd time since covid-19 last night.  again, the employees in the restaurant were not wearing masks. :nonono:   

so that's 1 nepa mexican place, 1 nepa brick oven pizza place & 1 nepa turkish place where the employees weren't wearing masks. we're really trying to help out the local places but we won't be back to any of them. 

(not to mention, the turkish place forgot our baklava) <_<

All the hotties around here sadly have their faces covered at all the restaurants, but they make sure to wear the tightest possible pants so that you can still appreciate what they have to offer. 

8 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

we ordered takeout for only the 3rd time since covid-19 last night.  again, the employees in the restaurant were not wearing masks. :nonono:   

so that's 1 nepa mexican place, 1 nepa brick oven pizza place & 1 nepa turkish place where the employees weren't wearing masks. we're really trying to help out the local places but we won't be back to any of them. 

(not to mention, the turkish place forgot our baklava) <_<

My wife and I are big restaurant ppl and we went to one this past weekend.  Owner sat down with us, sans mask, waiter had mask.  Is what it is.  I think the big difference is that all of us are going to have certain things we are willing to risk it on and all of us are going to put several activities on hold because they aren't as important to us.  Again, I think when everybody mitigates and uses masks most of the time and social distances for the most part, it does add up to a much slower spread.

 

But it also seems like a lot of that is going to hell in a high basket between Trumpster denialists and now city wide protesters.  A real shame America is failing this test as badly as it is.

17 minutes ago, Agent23 said:

I don't know where to post this, but given Corona being a major player in shutdowns, this thread seems like a fitting place.

While I have nothing against Small Businesses... I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape over them. Clearly right now the issue is "small businesses are being forced to close by state governments! Small businesses are owned by local community members with families! That business owner now struggles to put food on the table for hit family!" etc. etc. etc.

Before COVID, I've seen similar complaints brought up every time a Walmart or Target or some other large corporation has come to town and "forced local/small businesses to close because they can't afford to stay open"

In my experience these small businesses are more expensive than the larger entities for the identical items as well as having less availability of stock or availability of options, so they aren't providing some added value to the consumer, which is a necessity of staying in business in society controlled by capitalism.

 

Also... these small business owners deal with running a business, all the interviewing/hiring, all the finances/accounting, all the ordering/inventory/etc., and COUNTLESS other things. Other than a "sense of pride" for owning/running their own place, what are the only other tangible benefits that they get? 1. they don't have a boss to answer to; 2. maybe they have the opportunity to make a LOT of money.

But do you know what someone with all those qualifications can and should be able to do? Be the store manager of Walmart or Target or grocery store or countless other places that EASILY offer 6-figure salaries with healthcare benefits, retirement funds and company matching, etc. These people SHOULD have all the qualifications to easily put food on the table and clothes on the backs of their family while living a comfortable life. But they'd have to answer to a boss, or multiple bosses. Or they maybe only make a fixed salary and a BOOM year for the company isn't going to make them any extra money.

But if you own a local record store or hardware store or any things that are common "small businesses" in the community, the staff is probably making something close to minimum wage with no benefits or anything else beyond their $10/hr paycheck. So the small business that's "creating jobs" in their community is probably creating less stability and compensation than the local McDonalds would be offering them. 

So I guess I don't understand why so much attention/emotion is focused on small businesses and if there is something here I am just missing or not seeing?

One of issues is that the government helps make the big guys bigger by enacting rules, regulations, laws, that make it too expensive for the small guy to compete with them. Why do you think companies like Amazon pushes for a federal min wage? It is because they automated most of their jobs in that range and know that the small guy can’t afford to automate or pay that much? 

1 minute ago, Tnt4philly said:

One of issues is that the government helps make the big guys bigger by enacting rules, regulations, laws, that make it too expensive for the small guy to compete with them. Why do you think companies like Amazon pushes for a federal min wage? It is because they automated most of their jobs in that range and know that the small guy can’t afford to automate or pay that much? 

The lowest totem poll guy working at Amazon tho is likely seeing no different in hourly wages, but is probably receiving benefits or at least able to advance to a point of getting that. The lowest totem poll at a locally owned restaurant or corner store isn't getting anything with little if any room to advance.

The owner of local business is/should be qualified to get a solid wage/position within an Amazon (or insert other corporate business), so what is his owning his own business providing him with other than pride? And if that pride is so important why don't 100% of people in the workforce own their own business so they too can get a piece of that pride pie?

most small businesses aren't shops competing with target and walmart. those small businesses largely were wiped out already. small businesses that operate in retail that are surviving are largely built around a niche market and are much more exposed to the volatility of the market (think boutique antique stores or luxury items). 

I would assume most small businesses fall into the category of restaurants and bars, construction (a lot of independent contractors), and professional services. Of these, the ones most hit are restaurants and bars. 

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