June 3, 20205 yr 30 minutes ago, Agent23 said: I don't know where to post this, but given Corona being a major player in shutdowns, this thread seems like a fitting place. While I have nothing against Small Businesses... I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape over them. Clearly right now the issue is "small businesses are being forced to close by state governments! Small businesses are owned by local community members with families! That business owner now struggles to put food on the table for hit family!" etc. etc. etc. Before COVID, I've seen similar complaints brought up every time a Walmart or Target or some other large corporation has come to town and "forced local/small businesses to close because they can't afford to stay open" In my experience these small businesses are more expensive than the larger entities for the identical items as well as having less availability of stock or availability of options, so they aren't providing some added value to the consumer, which is a necessity of staying in business in society controlled by capitalism. Also... these small business owners deal with running a business, all the interviewing/hiring, all the finances/accounting, all the ordering/inventory/etc., and COUNTLESS other things. Other than a "sense of pride" for owning/running their own place, what are the only other tangible benefits that they get? 1. they don't have a boss to answer to; 2. maybe they have the opportunity to make a LOT of money. But do you know what someone with all those qualifications can and should be able to do? Be the store manager of Walmart or Target or grocery store or countless other places that EASILY offer 6-figure salaries with healthcare benefits, retirement funds and company matching, etc. These people SHOULD have all the qualifications to easily put food on the table and clothes on the backs of their family while living a comfortable life. But they'd have to answer to a boss, or multiple bosses. Or they maybe only make a fixed salary and a BOOM year for the company isn't going to make them any extra money. But if you own a local record store or hardware store or any things that are common "small businesses" in the community, the staff is probably making something close to minimum wage with no benefits or anything else beyond their $10/hr paycheck. So the small business that's "creating jobs" in their community is probably creating less stability and compensation than the local McDonalds would be offering them. So I guess I don't understand why so much attention/emotion is focused on small businesses and if there is something here I am just missing or not seeing? The bolded here is a HUGE part of personal motivation + a successful life though. Working to build something that you actually have a personal connection with (even if you're not in charge) is night and day when it comes to waking up everyday and going to work. When you have a personal stake, even if it's simply because you have a personal connection with and are rooting for the owner, it drives you and is infinitely more fulfilling. Not to mention, I've personally found that creation is the single most satisfying part of life. Whether you're making art, making children or building a business, that's pretty much the whole point of existence. If we're all soulless employees of faceless conglomerates, we're just pulling a lever at that point. We create nothing, we never challenge ourselves, we simply help a stock gain a quarter of a percent every day. Sounds like an awful world.
June 3, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: The bolded here is a HUGE part of personal motivation + a successful life though. Working to build something that you actually have a personal connection with (even if you're not in charge) is night and day when it comes to waking up everyday and going to work. When you have a personal stake, even if it's simply because you have a personal connection with and are rooting for the owner, it drives you and is infinitely more fulfilling. Not to mention, I've personally found that creation is the single most satisfying part of life. Whether you're making art, making children or building a business, that's pretty much the whole point of existence. If we're all soulless employees of faceless conglomerates, we're just pulling a lever at that point. We create nothing, we never challenge ourselves, we simply help a stock gain a quarter of a percent every day. Sounds like an awful world. I don't disagree with getting a sense of satisfaction/accomplishment from creating something (and using things like art or parenthood are good examples). But what percentage of global employees are just "pulling a lever to affect stocks" every day? 75%? higher? 85%? I mean, by that awful world reality, people should be committing mass suicides by the billions, no?
June 3, 20205 yr 42 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: Oh and don't tell them the quintessential "mom n pop" corner store is mostly run by Arabs now. And what does that have to do with anything?
June 3, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Agent23 said: I don't disagree with getting a sense of satisfaction/accomplishment from creating something (and using things like art or parenthood are good examples). But what percentage of global employees are just "pulling a lever to affect stocks" every day? 75%? higher? 85%? I mean, by that awful world reality, people should be committing mass suicides by the billions, no? Well, like I said, there are different ways to achieve that (kids, art, etc). But a lot of people aren't predisposed for either of those things and they achieve it through building a business. And for me, a world where every single business niche is filled by a handful of faceless corporations doesn't inspire a lot of hope for the future.
June 3, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Well, like I said, there are different ways to achieve that (kids, art, etc). But a lot of people aren't predisposed for either of those things and they achieve it through building a business. And for me, a world where every single business niche is filled by a handful of faceless corporations doesn't inspire a lot of hope for the future. Slightly off topic, but something I have mentioned in live conversations with people many times over the years. All of our towns/cities have the versions of town hall meetings or similar events open to the public where they discuss budgets, funding for things like schools, roads, etc. The groups/people who organize, run, and decide on those things are also open to new members joining and/or participating. Yet for all of those across the country, how many people in those cities/towns are in attendance? Some fraction of a percentage. None of us want to decide or determine how anything around us gets done. We want to sit in our houses with our families living our isolated lives watching our TVs. We expect roads to be paved and maintained for us. Stop lights and speed limits to be set. Roads to be plowed. Sidewalks and streets to be free of garbage and debris. Fire, police, EMT, etc. to be there to help is during an emergency and to keep law and order intact so we an go to and from peacefully and without fear in our day to day lives. We want all these things to be taken care of, and are quick to bish and complain when they aren't there or aren't up to our standards... but none of us wants to put a lick of time, energy, or resources into making these things happen to influencing how things can be maintained or improved. On a similar token, I don't think people want to build and prep and plan and maintain a business or these other things (on the whole). We want others to do all the heavy lifting for us and provide us with a location we can show up to 40 hours a week so that we can collect a paycheck and go back to our isolation at home with our friends/families.
June 3, 20205 yr https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/06/08/how-iceland-beat-the-coronavirus How Iceland beat COVID!! Why, mercy me, it is the same way the White House deals with COVID. Not they way it deals for us, the people of the USA, but just those working in the White House. Kind of funny, huh?
June 3, 20205 yr 14 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said: My dad is a physician working in a New York City hospital. Hydroxychloroquine has not been proven to be effective in combating COVID-19. Wrong. Your dad is a crisis actor
June 3, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, Toastrel said: Only 100,000 dead. No big deal. Check your brain, I think you are sitting on it. 100,000 compared to .......
June 3, 20205 yr 10 minutes ago, lynched1 said: 100,000 compared to ....... 100,000 dead compared to 100,000 alive.
June 3, 20205 yr It was extremely likely that people who were infected, whether they knew or not, would attend the protests and infect others Hopefully it's not as bad as I suspect it will be
June 3, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, sameaglesfan said: And what does that have to do with anything? It's okay, he needs his racism to keep him warm in these trying times.
June 3, 20205 yr 16 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said: Hydroxychloroquine has not been proven to be effective in combating COVID-19. BS!!
June 3, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, Toastrel said: Only 100,000 dead. So they say. People have died in this country everyday for as long as this country has existed. What the 100,000 number is everyday dying attributed to COVID-19 when COVID-19 had little to nothing to do with the death. The WHO sent a mandate to attribute COVID-19 as the cause of death as much as possible, forget about testing for it, no one will check. That mandate is all over the internet, search for it and read it yourself.
June 3, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, EagleVA said: Right, both are BS. So the earth isn't even a round disk? What shape is it?
June 3, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, dawkins4prez said: 🤣🤣 Yeah let's listen to Trump who hasn't treated a patient..EVER! Dude listen to yourself. Nobody thinks Fauci is in the lab burning a hole in his socket with a microscope. He is the top virologist who decides what is relevant and what isn't from what OTHERS do in the lab and is one of the most qualified people in the world to do that. Is Hydroxy a 100% open/shut case? No, it isn't, pat yourself on the back. Some countries are actively using it, others have BANNED it, including France. But in the case of the US, we are not the crazy ones for taking Fauci's word over f'ing Trump's. My conclusion isn't based on anything Trump did or said, it's based on the countless professionals I've heard praise the effectiveness of the Hydroxy protocol treatment. Moreover, back in 1983, Fauci himself praised the effectiveness of Hydroxy against I believe it was the SARS strain of the corona virus. You guys are not aware of this information because it's clear to me you haven't sought information outside of the mainstream media.
June 3, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, EagleVA said: My conclusion isn't based on anything Trump did or said, it's based on the countless professionals I've heard praise the effectiveness of the Hydroxy protocol treatment. Moreover, back in 1983, Fauci himself praised the effectiveness of Hydroxy against I believe it was the SARS strain of the corona virus. You guys are not aware of this information because it's clear to me you haven't sought information outside of the mainstream media. Would these professionals be plumbers and electricians?
June 3, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Toastrel said: Would these professionals be plumbers and electricians? When you begin with silliness I stop replying.
June 3, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, EagleVA said: My conclusion isn't based on anything Trump did or said, it's based on the countless professionals I've heard praise the effectiveness of the Hydroxy protocol treatment. Moreover, back in 1983, Fauci himself praised the effectiveness of Hydroxy against I believe it was the SARS strain of the corona virus. You guys are not aware of this information because it's clear to me you haven't sought information outside of the mainstream media. you are so full of sheet. post your own proof, its not our job to look up your delusions. that's not how conversations work.
June 3, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, EagleVA said: When you begin with silliness I stop replying. I'm afraid the wait time on that will be considerable.
June 3, 20205 yr 10 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: you are so full of sheet. post your own proof, its not our job to look up your delusions. that's not how conversations work. When I do my research I don't take notes so I can rebut the ignorance on this site. Could I review what I've learned and present to you? Of course I could, but my experience with this site is you guys will just make a joke about when you hear it because you won't have a rebuttal........sorry, don't have that kind of time to waste. If you want to know the truth search for it on your own, just know that the truth concerning COVID-19 won't be found on the mainstream media outlets.
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