June 16, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, BBE said: This makes sense considering the theory that COVID triggers an inflammatory cascade mechanism causing lung damage. Yup, makes a lot of sense if there's a significant inflammatory/vasculitis component. If they find that dexamethasone is a lot more effective in battling that than other steroids that would be fantastic, but if it's just vs no steroid at all...meh. The 2 guys I know working in ICUs during this whole process are using steroids already as part of their protocol, and when I was a resident in the pediatric/neonatal ICUs we gave out steroids for sepsis/respiratory failure all the time. Granted a standardized protocol would be great so this could be good from that POV. Especially since Dex is pretty cheap and widely available. So it's not exactly a worthless finding either. But either way I'll have to read the actual paper at some point.
June 16, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: https://reason.com/2020/06/16/another-round-of-coronavirus-lockdowns-might-be-coming-theyll-be-far-less-enforceable-than-before/ People are protesting, the president is having rallies again....I REALLY can't blame these people for fighting for their kids to play at the playground. I'm as safe as the next person but COVID is less of a threat to children than things they have been dealing with for decades (flu, pneumonia, etc). Let them play.
June 16, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Yup, makes a lot of sense if there's a significant inflammatory/vasculitis component. If they find that dexamethasone is a lot more effective in battling that than other steroids that would be fantastic, but if it's just vs no steroid at all...meh. The 2 guys I know working in ICUs during this whole process are using steroids already as part of their protocol, and when I was a resident in the pediatric/neonatal ICUs we gave out steroids for sepsis/respiratory failure all the time. Granted a standardized protocol would be great so this could be good from that POV. Especially since Dex is pretty cheap and widely available. So it's not exactly a worthless finding either. But either way I'll have to read the actual paper at some point. I really hope this isn't another case of PR/media overstating findings. My interest would be if there is prophylactic applications due to the complications that often arise once a patient is put on a ventilator. Unfortunately, only time will tell and right now time comes with a higher cost in human lives.
June 16, 20205 yr 45 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: This should make the scumbag Trumpbots happy. You have issues
June 16, 20205 yr 2,800 new cases reported in Fl overnight and 55 more deaths. another new high in cases
June 16, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said: 2,800 new cases reported in Fl overnight, another new high It's only a matter of time before the WH makes DeSantis stop reporting case numbers altogether.
June 16, 20205 yr I'm really late to this. Just heard about it. Sad for a person to die over a mask https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/police-probe-killing-store-security-guard-virus-mask-70492980 Pathetic to kill a person over a mask
June 16, 20205 yr 22 hours ago, Paul852 said: That's funny because I have a neighbor who also works in a retirement community and has lost at least 20 residents at this point. funny? I'd be interested in the medical history of the 20 deceased, as well as the protocols put in place.
June 16, 20205 yr This morning my wife's hospital admitted a sick guy that they suspected of having covid19. Test results came back this afternoon and he is indeed positive. What's different about this guy is that he was in the hospital in late April for 2 weeks ALSO for covid19. So he got it, recovered, was home for 6-7 weeks and got it a 2nd time.... From what my wife says, this is the system's first person to get it twice.
June 16, 20205 yr Update from the Doc https://www.nothingbutthetruthmd.com/2020/06/61620-covid-19-update.html RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES Numerous state Governors are adopting the position that each citizen has the right and responsibility to decide the risks of not wearing masks and distancing. The inference is, that it is the citizens right to make informed decisions. The "INFORMED" in informed decision, refers to information. The information required to be informed, centers, in this scenario, on the citizens chance of becoming infected with Covid-19 and suffering the sequelae of such an infection. These very same Governors have failed to provide their citizens with information that would permit an informed decision. They are NEGLIGENT. They have failed in their duty to provide information to their citizens which would allow them to make this informed decision. Failing a duty is the first element of negligence. These very same Governors are HYPOCRITES. They have capriciously decided that masks and distancing should not be subject to state ordinance. Each of these states have DUI laws which protect the public from irresponsible individuals just as masks and distancing laws would protect the public from irresponsible citizens. In a previous email on this subject, I provided data that showed that DUI laws protect fewer citizens from harm than mask and distancing laws would if enacted. Calculating risk is never an exacting science. Risk stratification is usually an approximation on some of the most relevant information available that is germaine to the subject. CALCULATING THE RISK AND SEQUELAE OF INFECTION IN PENNSYLVANIA FOR THE NEXT TWO MONTHS IF NOT WEARING A MASK AND DISTANCING. It is my opinion that if one where wearing a mask and distancing the risk would be so extremely rare as to be inconsequential. The only unique pieces of information needed to calculate the risk in another state could be obtained from the COVID TRACKING PROJECT.. Pick your state and then click on historical data and look for cases and deaths. The death statistics by age are from the CDC In the last two months in Pennsylvania there have been 73,216 new cases. Most of these cases were symptomatic and we know that about 50% of the cases are asymptomatic. There have have therefore, 146,432 new Covid-19 cases in Pennsylvania in the last two months. Based on a population of 12,500,000 that would give you a 3.34%% chance of becoming infected in the next two months if you live carefree. (assume 50% in the state maybe as high as 60% are wearing masks.) Broken down by age <10 1.5% of 3.34% 10-39 11.8% of 3.34% 40-49 15.9% of 3.34% 50-59 16.2% of 3.34% 60-69 14.1% of 3.34% 70-79 13.6% of 3.34% >80 26.6% of 3.34% Since April 15, 2020 there have been 5596 Covid-19 linked deaths in the State of Pennsylvania. You would have a 3.8%% chance of dying if you contracted the disease.over all age groups. Broken down by age 0 -17 .06% 3.35 deaths 18-44 3.9% 218 deaths 45-64 22.4% 1253 deaths 65-74 24.9% 1393 deaths >75 48.7% 2725 deaths When it comes to Covid-19, governor Tom Wolf is one of the good guys and now you are informed. If you are under 40, carefree and you want to belly up to a nice crowded bar, have some insurance. If you are over 40, carefree and want to go visit one of these places have insurance and pray. Have a good day Live Safely Be Well
June 16, 20205 yr 7 hours ago, Mike030270 said: You have issues How he could come up with the thought that a trump supporter might be happy because someone/anyones father died is hard to imagine.
June 16, 20205 yr 9 hours ago, DEagle7 said: corticosteroid reactive airway disease COPD. sepsis/respiratory failure protocols dex methylpred
June 16, 20205 yr 47 minutes ago, What The F said: This morning my wife's hospital admitted a sick guy that they suspected of having covid19. Test results came back this afternoon and he is indeed positive. What's different about this guy is that he was in the hospital in late April for 2 weeks ALSO for covid19. So he got it, recovered, was home for 6-7 weeks and got it a 2nd time.... From what my wife says, this is the system's first person to get it twice. Well F Do they have info on if he was out and about after he recovered from the first one?
June 16, 20205 yr 51 minutes ago, greenskeeper said: funny? I'd be interested in the medical history of the 20 deceased, as well as the protocols put in place. Let me go ask.
June 16, 20205 yr 26 minutes ago, Bill said: Sorry, bad habit. In all fairness that's how I feel when people around here bring up the stock market or guns.
June 17, 20205 yr 53 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Sorry, bad habit. In all fairness that's how I feel when people around here bring up the stock market or guns. Haha no you’re good. There’s a lot of morons on this board, but there’s also a lot of top talent in a variety of fields. It’s surprising how much you can learn on a football message board about medicine, business, finance, the military/geopolitics, the law, and what you can eat to blow out your colon in Forty Fort.
June 17, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, What The F said: This morning my wife's hospital admitted a sick guy that they suspected of having covid19. Test results came back this afternoon and he is indeed positive. What's different about this guy is that he was in the hospital in late April for 2 weeks ALSO for covid19. So he got it, recovered, was home for 6-7 weeks and got it a 2nd time.... From what my wife says, this is the system's first person to get it twice. Impossible, because when I said back in March that people were getting reinfected, I was told by all the geniuses on here that it was impossible.
June 17, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, What The F said: This morning my wife's hospital admitted a sick guy that they suspected of having covid19. Test results came back this afternoon and he is indeed positive. What's different about this guy is that he was in the hospital in late April for 2 weeks ALSO for covid19. So he got it, recovered, was home for 6-7 weeks and got it a 2nd time.... From what my wife says, this is the system's first person to get it twice. Did he 100% have it back in April? This could be the COUNTRY’S first person to get it twice if that is true.
June 17, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: Did he 100% have it back in April? This could be the COUNTRY’S first person to get it twice if that is true. Yes he did, and no he isn't. Neighboring areas have had people get it again. This is just the first person in their health system that they know of. 2 hours ago, Mike030270 said: Well F Do they have info on if he was out and about after he recovered from the first one? Im sure they have asked him but we don't have that info.
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