June 17, 20205 yr Someone in Texas reportedly had it twice too https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/texas-woman-diagnosed-coronavirus-twice-four-months-1511197%3famp=1
June 17, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, SNOORDA said: How he could come up with the thought that a trump supporter might be happy because someone/anyones father died is hard to imagine. It’s Representative Omar my dude. Just check out some of the replies to her tweet.
June 17, 20205 yr On Tuesday, Florida reported 2,783 new coronavirus cases, more than it has ever recorded in a single day. It was the fourth time in six days that the state reported a record number of cases
June 17, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: On Tuesday, Florida reported 2,783 new coronavirus cases, more than it has ever recorded in a single day. It was the fourth time in six days that the state reported a record number of cases https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/florida-bars-restaurants-close-coronavirus-spike-outbreak-a9568631.html Three months after the Covid-19 pandemic forced bars and restaurants to close in Florida, some businesses have shut within one week of reopening as coronavirus cases spike in the state. At least six bars in northern and central Florida have now announced their closures amid new Covid-19 cases, which peaked on Sunday. The state’s health department has since confirmed two consecutive days with more than 2,000 new cases, breaking records set when the pandemic began in March. _________________________________________ Mind you, this is places CHOOSING to close. The state is still playing the EagleVA "what virus?" game.
June 17, 20205 yr Quote On Monday, Pence urged governors to take increased testing into account for increased cases. And on Tuesday, he penned an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal claiming there is "no second wave" of coronavirus. Pence also traveled to Iowa Tuesday, where he had lunch at a local restaurant with Republican Gov. Kim Reynolds and made remarks at Winnebago Industries touting US "recovery." At the restaurant, neither Pence nor Reynolds nor the restaurant's owner or patrons wore a mask, and he did not practice social distancing as he greeted diners. Pence also openly flouted social distancing guidelines last week with a trip to Trump campaign headquarters, posting a since-deleted photo with a large group of tightly clustered campaign staff, none of whom wore masks. This is our "leadership" in a pandemic. We are the laughing stock of the world and 3rd world pisshole countries have more effective and more intelligent leadership.
June 17, 20205 yr Trump, Pence and even the WSJ say there is no second wave. Sadly, statistics bear this out. Since MORONS, IDIOTS and PEOPLE WHO CARE ONLY FOR THEMSELVES refuse to self-isolate, refuse to properly wear masks and follow the most simple procedures to reduce infection, the USA basically isn't having the post first wave dip. 22 states have COVID numbers rising, some alarmingly so. I feel bad for the innocents they infect.
June 17, 20205 yr 20 hours ago, Mike030270 said: I don't get your point I would expect scenes like that at the state capitol.
June 17, 20205 yr All because we have a President that's a F'ing moron and runs his administration through Trump's "impeccable instincts".
June 17, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, Dave Moss said: It’s Representative Omar my dude. Just check out some of the replies to her tweet. Thanks for doing the legwork on that one. Not sure why anyone would bet on Trump supporters not being complete a-holes. But I have issues, so what do I know.
June 17, 20205 yr So, a story from crazy liberal LA...that wasn't crazy. The wife and I went out to dinner for the first time since March on Friday. Our favorite restaurant, a local steakhouse in Venice. They basically took out half the tables it seemed and required guests to wear masks when not seated at the table (entering, using the restroom, leaving). They texted you when your table was ready so you didn't congregate by the hostess stand and waited outside, but the valet was open. Waiters wore masks and shields. They had you use your phone and snap a picture to access the menu on your own device. It was different, and a little annoying maybe, but I have to say -- the emptier restaurant was nice for conversation. I'm not sure how they make money at 50% capacity, but all in all, the mask wearing and other changes weren't really that much of an issue. If this is life for a while, I'm OK with it. One woman showed up without a mask and was asked to leave. She kept asking how long for a table and didn't understand she needed a reservation. The hostess gave her a menu, asked her to go outside and order to-go food by calling it in from outside if she wanted.
June 17, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, vikas83 said: So, a story from crazy liberal LA...that wasn't crazy. The wife and I went out to dinner for the first time since March on Friday. Our favorite restaurant, a local steakhouse in Venice. They basically took out half the tables it seemed and required guests to wear masks when not seated at the table (entering, using the restroom, leaving). They texted you when your table was ready so you didn't congregate by the hostess stand and waited outside, but the valet was open. Waiters wore masks and shields. They had you use your phone and snap a picture to access the menu on your own device. It was different, and a little annoying maybe, but I have to say -- the emptier restaurant was nice for conversation. I'm not sure how they make money at 50% capacity, but all in all, the mask wearing and other changes weren't really that much of an issue. If this is life for a while, I'm OK with it. One woman showed up without a mask and was asked to leave. She kept asking how long for a table and didn't understand she needed a reservation. The hostess gave her a menu, asked her to go outside and order to-go food by calling it in from outside if she wanted. We just went back to a restaurant for the first time and had a pretty similar experience. It's all outdoors up here so most places have just set up tables out in the parking lots/outdoor seating areas if they already had them. Waiters wore masks, menu was written on a big chalk board everyone could see One of the local guys we've gotten to know estimates they're doing about 40-50% of their normal business, which is still rough but it's getting better. Even the local clam shacks have their sheet together. Call ahead seating spread out, masks required, designated eat in vs eat out ordering sections with marks for distancing. The strip clubs are having a harder time adapting though
June 17, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, Toastrel said: Trump, Pence and even the WSJ say there is no second wave. Sadly, statistics bear this out. There is no second wave because we are still in the first wave in the USA. I just saw this: Before you say, "well, testing, duh"; there's a graph for that too. https://twitter.com/MaxCRoser/status/1273032721984638976?s=20 Quote And these big differences are not because the US is testing more extensively. The opposite is the case: the positivity rate in the US is higher than in all of these countries. This suggest US is likely testing less than EU.
June 17, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, toolg said: There is no second wave because we are still in the first wave in the USA. I just saw this: Before you say, "well, testing, duh"; there's a graph for that. https://twitter.com/MaxCRoser/status/1273032721984638976?s=20 Looks like since Memorial Day there has been little progress. Timing not surprising. George Floyd Protests also a likely cause of the increase.
June 17, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Blazehound said: Looks like since Memorial Day there has been little progress. Timing not surprising. I think so too. Memorial Day weekend was when a lot of people decided they were done self-isolating and went back to social activities. I doubt we will see any more progress through summer.
June 17, 20205 yr Just now, toolg said: There is no second wave because we are still in the first wave in the USA. I just saw this: Before you say, "well, testing, duh"; there's a graph for that. I've been looking at the data contrasting EU and the US for a while. There's a couple of things I'd want to note here: 1. the above is a case count, not a death count. I'm not surprised that the EU more quickly reduced this number, because the hardest hit areas (Spain, Italy, France, UK) all very quickly and broadly locked things down and the local responses were better than the US. 2. the United States by comparison was NOT unified in the response, in part due to culture and in part due to how the population is distributed in the continental US vs. EU. you have areas of the countries that have locked down like crazy, and areas that are much closer to business as usual. because of this, I think you're going to see a 'whack-a-mole' type effect where states/regions get spikes in cases and then it gets under control, only to see another region have the same spike. this is going to make our case counts longer and flatter IMHO. 3. if you look at the rolling averages for covid-19 deaths, the US compared with the EU as a whole is faring much better. that particular stat from ourworldindata does not have European Union as an option, but if your eyes are able to pick apart this chart it's pretty clear if you added the rolling averages up for the various individual EU nations I selected here the US is doing MUCH better on this front: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-deaths-per-million-3-day-avg?tab=chart&time=2020-03-02..&country=USA~SWE~ESP~ITA~GBR~DEU~FRA~CHE~AUT~POL I don't have a good answer for any of this, all I would say is we should caution ourselves against comparing the US case count averages with the EU case count averages. there's bigger differences in how testing is executed and reported than their is in reporting on covid-related deaths.
June 17, 20205 yr 39 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: We just went back to a restaurant for the first time and had a pretty similar experience. It's all outdoors up here so most places have just set up tables out in the parking lots/outdoor seating areas if they already had them. Waiters wore masks, menu was written on a big chalk board everyone could see One of the local guys we've gotten to know estimates they're doing about 40-50% of their normal business, which is still rough but it's getting better. Even the local clam shacks have their sheet together. Call ahead seating spread out, masks required, designated eat in vs eat out ordering sections with marks for distancing. The strip clubs are having a harder time adapting though Strip clubs should make an onlyfans account
June 17, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, toolg said: I think so too. Memorial Day weekend was when a lot of people decided they were done self-isolating and went back to social activities. I doubt we will see any more progress through summer. I just got back from a week in FL and the difference between there and ATL is night and day. Go into any store along the beach and no one's wearing a mask. Bars overflowing with people, no one distancing. There's just no way they're gonna keep the numbers down.
June 17, 20205 yr 13 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I've been looking at the data contrasting EU and the US for a while. There's a couple of things I'd want to note here: I agree. It is important to consider all facets. I don't have a whole lot of answers either. My guess is US deaths will begin to trend worse, as the pandemic continues in USA while it wanes in EU. This might be the beginning of the divergence.
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