April 20, 20223 yr Quote Per Politico, "In 2020, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention saw a 15 percent drop from prepandemic levels in states’ orders for Vaccines for Children, the federal program through which about half the children in the country are immunized. In 2021, order levels were about 7 percent lower than prepandemic levels, according to the CDC.” In Florida, rates for routine immunizations for two-year-olds fell from 92.1 percent in 2019 to 79.3 percent in 2021. In Tennessee, "14 percent fewer vaccine doses were given to children under two in 2020 and 2021 than before the pandemic.” In Idaho, meanwhile, "the number of kids who received their first dose of the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine by age two decreased from roughly 21,000 in 2018 and 2019 to 17,000 in 2021.”
April 20, 20223 yr 28 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: Anyone here try to get their kid into the pediatrician for anything not an emergency during 2020/2021?
April 20, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, The_Omega said: Anyone here try to get their kid into the pediatrician for anything not an emergency during 2020/2021? I did. Face masks required to be worn in the building. Check-in via cell phone from the parking lot, so nobody is waiting in the building other than patients being seen and one parent. Separate entrances for illness than for well visits. We also had a telehealth visit.
April 20, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, toolg said: I did. Face masks required to be worn in the building. Check-in via cell phone from the parking lot, so nobody is waiting in the building other than patients being seen and one parent. Separate entrances for illness than for well visits. We also had a telehealth visit. this. it was super easy. didn't miss one appointment. must have been different on Earth II though.
April 20, 20223 yr Bs. Aside from checkups scheduled months in advance, appointments were nearly impossible to come by, and it wasn’t just pediatricians. Almost every medical condition was delayed, many with fatal consequences, during those 2 years. Hell, we couldn’t even get our kids into our pediatrician for flu shots, and it’s known to be the best practice around.
April 20, 20223 yr Been to the pediatrician's office probably 6 or 7 times over the last couple years. Both annual check-ups for both kids is 4 times, no issues getting in for those appts. Then at least 1 time when my youngest got sick but tested negative for covid. And a follow-up to the check-up for my oldest to get a blood draw. Maybe one other time I'm forgetting but all we no problem getting them in except for the second time my youngest got sick where we couldn't get her seen during the week prior to NYE which was at the beginning of the omicron BA.1 wave.
April 20, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Bs. Aside from checkups scheduled months in advance, appointments were nearly impossible to come by, and it wasn’t just pediatricians. Almost every medical condition was delayed, many with fatal consequences, during those 2 years. Hell, we couldn’t even get our kids into our pediatrician for flu shots, and it’s known to be the best practice around. Had no issues on the West Coast.
April 20, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Bs. Aside from checkups scheduled months in advance, appointments were nearly impossible to come by, and it wasn’t just pediatricians. Almost every medical condition was delayed, many with fatal consequences, during those 2 years. Hell, we couldn’t even get our kids into our pediatrician for flu shots, and it’s known to be the best practice around. Not sure how things are handled by the Zuker pediatrician down south, but vaccinations here in WGB-land are usually done as part of those same check-ups that are also scheduled months in advance. Are you implying you guys down there choose to get your kids vaccinated on a whim? Like whenever you feel like it in the spur of the moment if you can squeeze it in between chuckie cheese and the golden corral?
April 20, 20223 yr 23 minutes ago, toolg said: I did. Face masks required to be worn in the building. Check-in via cell phone from the parking lot, so nobody is waiting in the building other than patients being seen and one parent. Separate entrances for illness than for well visits. We also had a telehealth visit. Yeah we had no issues. We even changed our kids pediatrician after we moved, right smack in the middle of the pandemic and had no issues.
April 20, 20223 yr I've literally had my son at the pediatrician the same day when I called for an ad-hoc appointment (daycare requiring checkup to return). And yeah, vaccinations are always staggered with the checkups planned in advance.
April 20, 20223 yr 25 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Bs. Aside from checkups scheduled months in advance, appointments were nearly impossible to come by, and it wasn’t just pediatricians. Almost every medical condition was delayed, many with fatal consequences, during those 2 years. Hell, we couldn’t even get our kids into our pediatrician for flu shots, and it’s known to be the best practice around. Have you tried being less poor?
April 20, 20223 yr 31 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Bs. Aside from checkups scheduled months in advance, appointments were nearly impossible to come by, and it wasn’t just pediatricians. Almost every medical condition was delayed, many with fatal consequences, during those 2 years. Hell, we couldn’t even get our kids into our pediatrician for flu shots, and it’s known to be the best practice around. I didn't have any issue with pediatrician visits. Some went to telemedicine but by doctors at the same practice. My PCP also added telemedicine though I met with him only once over that time period because I rarely got sick (I do get a lot of seasonal sinus infections but had none for 18 most). I'm not disputing your difficulties, but my experience was different.
April 21, 20223 yr I'm flying Stockholm-Copenhagen-WashDC tomorrow on SAS. No masking required. The only SAS flights requiring masks now are those to Italy and China.
April 21, 20223 yr About 30% of COVID-19 patients suffer from 'long COVID' - study https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/article-704636 No worse than long flu.
April 21, 20223 yr 43 minutes ago, Toastrel said: About 30% of COVID-19 patients suffer from 'long COVID' - study https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/article-704636 No worse than long flu. For hospitalized patients. Not 30% of people who had COVID. For some reference vs hospitalized flu patients, here is one study https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17497-6 Note: I don't have time to actually try to look into the differences but I would assume the effects are greater long term in COVID patients. Let's see what the actual data says.
April 21, 20223 yr Masks work. Quote If I do wear a mask, what kind should I wear? In a review of studies that looked at five eight-hour flights where some passengers tested positive for the coronavirus, the virus was not passed on to any other passengers when mask requirements were enforced. Meanwhile, on three flights where masks were not widely worn, between two and 15 additional passengers contracted the virus within two weeks of disembarking.Lab researchers have found that various types of face masks, including cloth masks, surgical masks and N95 respirators, help prevent the spread of the coronavirus. N95 masks provide the best protection because they generally fit tighter than cloth masks and are made with special material designed to block harmful particles. But the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says any mask is better than no mask. "I recommend a high-quality mask such as an N95, KN95, KF94, or high-filtration surgical mask,” Laura Kwong, a researcher who has studied mask efficacy at the University of California at Berkeley’s School of Public Health, said in an email. One of the most important considerations is that the mask be snug across the nose and mouth and "conforms to your face without gaps,” according to guidance from Johns Hopkins Medicine. What does research tell us about the effectiveness of masking? Return to menu Many studies support the use of masks to reduce transmission of the coronavirus, which is spread when an infected person expels tiny particles of virus into the air and someone else breathes those particles in. Masks work by erecting a barrier that can stop those airborne virus particles from being inhaled by an uninfected person, and KN95 and N95 masks provide the best protection. A study that looked at mask use in California found that people who reported always wearing a cloth mask in indoor public spaces last year were 56 percent less likely to test positive compared with people who did not wear masks. The protection grew to 66 percent for those who consistently wore surgical masks and to 83 percent for those wearing N95 or KN95 masks. Masks can offer another layer of protection as new variants evade vaccine-boosted immunity. A CDC study that looked at an anime convention in New York City — where 53,000 people gathered just as the omicron variant began to spread in the United States last November — found only a fraction of attendees contracted the virus at the mask-mandatory event. Those who did get sick were far more likely to report socializing in bars or nightclubs, participating in karaoke, and eating or drinking indoors near others for longer than 15 minutes, the study said. A large-scale, randomized trial in Bangladesh led by researchers from Stanford Medicine and Yale University found that even modest mask use within a community can reduce transmission, particularly among older people. "An approximately thirty percentage point increase in mask-wearing among all community members in public resulted in a 35 percent reduction in COVID-19 among individuals over 50 years old,” Kwong, a co-author of the study, said in an email. What do we know about coronavirus risk while flying? Experts say transmission risk is lower when a plane is flying because of the way the air is filtered. But they still recommend masking during air travel because of heightened risk inside airports and when filtration systems are turned off on the plane. "So the air on the plane is extraordinarily safe. Of course, the people are the ones who bring covid onto a plane,” said Leonard Marcus of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, who participated in an airline-funded study finding flying can be safe with proper precautionary measures. "It requires multiple layers. The air system itself won’t do the job fully.” Masks are among those layers to reduce risk, experts say. "The combination of good ventilation and filtration in any form of transportation or indoor setting, and an N95 — with those things, I think you are very well protected,” said Marr, the Virginia Tech professor. "There are times, though, on the airplane, like during boarding and deplaning when they’re not necessarily running the ventilation and filtration systems, and people are up in the aisle and everyone’s moving around talking, that is a riskier time.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/04/20/when-to-still-mask-planes/
April 21, 20223 yr 48 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: In a review of studies that looked at five eight-hour flights where some passengers tested positive for the coronavirus, the virus was not passed on to any other passengers when mask requirements were enforced. Wowzers, they looked at five whole flights!? This type of comprehensive study must've been years in the making!
April 21, 20223 yr I flew to Atlanta on Monday- Mask Mandate in full effect at airport and on Planes still. Flew back yesterday, and very few people wearing masks. Most airline and Airport employees, most passengers not wearing any masks. I wore one, just to be safe, I have older at risk in laws I am helping to protect. I have no problem with any of that at all.
April 21, 20223 yr 25 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: I flew to Atlanta on Monday- Mask Mandate in full effect at airport and on Planes still. Flew back yesterday, and very few people wearing masks. Most airline and Airport employees, most passengers not wearing any masks. I wore one, just to be safe, I have older at risk in laws I am helping to protect. I have no problem with any of that at all. Damn, bro. It was nice knowing you. I'll miss you, buddy. 😞
April 21, 20223 yr 52 minutes ago, Kz! said: Damn, bro. It was nice knowing you. I'll miss you, buddy. 😞
April 22, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Kz! said: @we_gotta_believe's infatuation with Fauci finally makes sense now. With those heels, she gained a good 3-4 inches. She’s also closer to the camera. Damn you for making me do that.
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