July 6, 20205 yr Just now, Green Dog said: Well, that's just great. That's great. Wtf are supposed to do now, man? Purge?
July 6, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Green Dog said: Well, that's just great. That's great. Wtf are supposed to do now, man? Game over, man. Game over!
July 6, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Paul852 said: That should be circulated. Get moving people. People don't care. Up your Vitamin C, Zinc and get some sun and lower your risk. Rhonda has put out a lot of great information as it comes out. She is highly recommended during this period or in general for longevity
July 6, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: He wanted to say Schools must open in the fall to get the black kids out of the streets committing all this crime.
July 6, 20205 yr 10 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: God, it's so funny that people support this guy. Is this all caps 6-word message from the president a policy demand? Is it a complaint? Is he just screaming into the void? Christ, people voted their drunk uncle from the family barbecue into the White House.
July 6, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Lloyd said: God, it's so funny that people support this guy. Is this all caps 6-word message from the president a policy demand? Is it a complaint? Is he just screaming into the void? Christ, people voted their drunk uncle from the family barbecue into the White House. It’s hard to take it seriously at this point.
July 6, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: I can’t read the article because of my location. What does it say? (CNN) - Spain's large-scale study on the coronavirus indicates just 5% of its population has developed antibodies, strengthening evidence that a so-called herd immunity to Covid-19 is "unachievable," the medical journal the Lancet reported on Monday. The findings show that 95% of Spain's population remains susceptible to the virus. Herd immunity is achieved when enough of a population has become infected with a virus or bacteria -- or vaccinated against it -- to stop its circulation. The European Center for Disease Control told CNN that Spain's research, on a nationwide representative sample of more than 61,000 participants, appears to be the largest study to date among a dozen serological studies on the coronavirus undertaken by European nations. It adds to the findings of an antibody study involving 2,766 participants in Geneva, Switzerland, published in the Lancet on June 11. There have been similar studies in China and the United States and "the key finding from these representative cohorts is that most of the population appears to have remained unexposed" to Covid-19, "even in areas with widespread virus circulation," said a Lancet commentary published along with Spain's findings. "In light of these findings, any proposed approach to achieve herd immunity through natural infection is not only highly unethical, but also unachievable," said the Lancet's commentary authors, Isabella Eckerle, head of the Geneva Centre for Emerging Viral Diseases, and Benjamin Meyer, a virologist at the University of Geneva. Doctors are uncertain whether having antibodies to the coronavirus means someone cannot be infected again. It's not clear how long or how well antibodies protect people from the virus. Spain's peer-reviewed study began in April while the nation remained on a strict lockdown, and was conducted by leading government research and epidemiological agencies. "The relatively low seroprevalence observed in the context of an intense epidemic in Spain might serve as a reference to other countries. At present, herd immunity is difficult to achieve without accepting the collateral damage of many deaths in the susceptible population and overburdening of health systems," the report reads. The Spanish study's lead author, Marina Pollán, who is director of the National Center for Epidemiology, told CNN: "Some experts have computed that around 60% of seroprevalence might mean herd immunity. But we are very far from achieving that number." Spain has been one of the countries in Europe hit hardest by the coronavirus, with more than 28,000 deaths and 250,000 cases. The Lancet published results of the first phase of Spain's study, conducted from April 27 to May 11, which showed a nationwide antibody prevalence of 5%. But the Madrid metropolitan area, the hardest-hit in the country by Covid-19, had more than 10% prevalence, and densely urban Barcelona had 7%, while many other coastal provinces had far lower rates. Similarly, Geneva's prevalence was 10.8% in the Swiss study conducted from April to early May, the Lancet reported. "With a large majority of the population being infection naïve, virus circulation can quickly return to early pandemic dimensions in a second wave once measures are lifted," the Lancet's commentary authors Eckerle and Meyer wrote of the findings. Spain's second study phase results were released on June 4, showing a 5.2% national prevalence, just slightly higher than in the first phase. The results from the third and final phase were made public on Monday; they showed that national prevalence remained at 5.2%, Pollán said.
July 6, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, DrPhilly said: I can’t read the article because of my location. What does it say? (CNN) - Spain's large-scale study on the coronavirus indicates just 5% of its population has developed antibodies, strengthening evidence that a so-called herd immunity to Covid-19 is "unachievable," the medical journal the Lancet reported on Monday. The findings show that 95% of Spain's population remains susceptible to the virus. Herd immunity is achieved when enough of a population has become infected with a virus or bacteria -- or vaccinated against it -- to stop its circulation. The European Center for Disease Control told CNN that Spain's research, on a nationwide representative sample of more than 61,000 participants, appears to be the largest study to date among a dozen serological studies on the coronavirus undertaken by European nations. It adds to the findings of an antibody study involving 2,766 participants in Geneva, Switzerland, published in the Lancet on June 11. There have been similar studies in China and the United States and "the key finding from these representative cohorts is that most of the population appears to have remained unexposed" to Covid-19, "even in areas with widespread virus circulation," said a Lancet commentary published along with Spain's findings. "In light of these findings, any proposed approach to achieve herd immunity through natural infection is not only highly unethical, but also unachievable," said the Lancet's commentary authors, Isabella Eckerle, head of the Geneva Centre for Emerging Viral Diseases, and Benjamin Meyer, a virologist at the University of Geneva. Doctors are uncertain whether having antibodies to the coronavirus means someone cannot be infected again. It's not clear how long or how well antibodies protect people from the virus. Spain's peer-reviewed study began in April while the nation remained on a strict lockdown, and was conducted by leading government research and epidemiological agencies. "The relatively low seroprevalence observed in the context of an intense epidemic in Spain might serve as a reference to other countries. At present, herd immunity is difficult to achieve without accepting the collateral damage of many deaths in the susceptible population and overburdening of health systems," the report reads. The Spanish study's lead author, Marina Pollán, who is director of the National Center for Epidemiology, told CNN: "Some experts have computed that around 60% of seroprevalence might mean herd immunity. But we are very far from achieving that number." Spain has been one of the countries in Europe hit hardest by the coronavirus, with more than 28,000 deaths and 250,000 cases. The Lancet published results of the first phase of Spain's study, conducted from April 27 to May 11, which showed a nationwide antibody prevalence of 5%. But the Madrid metropolitan area, the hardest-hit in the country by Covid-19, had more than 10% prevalence, and densely urban Barcelona had 7%, while many other coastal provinces had far lower rates. Similarly, Geneva's prevalence was 10.8% in the Swiss study conducted from April to early May, the Lancet reported. "With a large majority of the population being infection naïve, virus circulation can quickly return to early pandemic dimensions in a second wave once measures are lifted," the Lancet's commentary authors Eckerle and Meyer wrote of the findings. Spain's second study phase results were released on June 4, showing a 5.2% national prevalence, just slightly higher than in the first phase. The results from the third and final phase were made public on Monday; they showed that national prevalence remained at 5.2%, Pollán said.
July 7, 20205 yr 21 hours ago, lynched1 said: Tony Award-nominated actor Nick Cordero, 41, has died after a battle with the coronavirus that stretched for months, his wife announced Sunday night. Cordero entered the intensive care unit at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles on March 31 and had been on a ventilator and unconscious after contracting COVID-19. His fight had consisted of a leg amputation and multiple mini-strokes while battling several other ailments. Kung Flu gets the hospital a surcharge guess who just got added to stats......... Shockingly, the guy who hasn't quite figured out calendars apparently doesn't know how septic shock and disseminated intravascular coagulation works. Who would have guessed?
July 7, 20205 yr Just now, DEagle7 said: Shockingly, the guy who hasn't quite figured out calendars apparently doesn't know how septic shock and disseminated intravascular coagulation works. Who would have guessed? It says right in the article "battling several other ailments" genius. Learn to Fing read. I think Vikas left a little something on your chin. Perhaps you may benefit from the use of a towelette. 😉
July 7, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, lynched1 said: It says right in the article "battling several other ailments" genius. Learn to Fing read. I think Vikas left a little something on your chin. Perhaps you may benefit from the use of a towelette. 😉 Yes, ailments due to Covid. Smh....... He was working on a musical when he contracted the virus.
July 7, 20205 yr 9 hours ago, Ace Nova said: I hope so. As a Florida resident, this is the last thing this state needs right now. Sadly, it’s true. News running the story and Church confirmed she was there. They even showed the report on the news about Hyrdoxy and other meds she was given. https://www.winknews.com/2020/07/06/report-shows-swfl-teen-attended-large-event-treated-with-hydroxychloroquine-before-covid-19-death/
July 7, 20205 yr Also, Florida Dept of Education signed an emergency order today saying all public and charter schools must reopen next month or they won’t get funding
July 7, 20205 yr 25 minutes ago, lynched1 said: It says right in the article "battling several other ailments" genius. Learn to Fing read. I think Vikas left a little something on your chin. Perhaps you may benefit from the use of a towelette. 😉 So I guess it was just an accident that you bolded the part about stokes and amputations then right? I only ask because bringing that up confidently as some kind of "ah ha!" moment for any cause of septic shock, let alone a virus we highly suspect has a predilection for vasculature, would be pretty Fing stupid. Not quite "I don't know how months work" stupid but still, pretty Fing stupid.
July 7, 20205 yr 14 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: So I guess it was just an accident that you bolded the part about stokes and amputations then right? I only ask because bringing that up confidently as some kind of "ah ha!" moment for any cause of septic shock, let alone a virus we highly suspect has a predilection for vasculature, would be pretty Fing stupid. Not quite "I don't know how months work" stupid but still, pretty Fing stupid. You are going to need to use smaller words if you want to have a chance of getting your point across to him.
July 7, 20205 yr 32 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: Also, Florida Dept of Education signed an emergency order today saying all public and charter schools must reopen next month or they won’t get funding Do you have a link to this? I am pretty involved in Florida education, with 3 kids currently enrolled, and I have not seen any mention of losing funding. In fact, I’ve been reading the opposite...funding wont be based on the amount of students in the class solely , but will take into account distance learners through 2020.
July 7, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, Jsvand12 said: You are going to need to use smaller words if you want to have a chance of getting your point across to him. I have absolutely no preconception that I'm going to convince that dunce of anything. But with all the ridiculous sheet I deal with weekly sometimes it's cathartic to call a moron a moron
July 7, 20205 yr 25 minutes ago, hey suess said: Do you have a link to this? I am pretty involved in Florida education, with 3 kids currently enrolled, and I have not seen any mention of losing funding. In fact, I’ve been reading the opposite...funding wont be based on the amount of students in the class solely , but will take into account distance learners through 2020. https://www.winknews.com/2020/07/06/emergency-order-florida-brick-and-mortar-schools-must-reopen-in-fall/https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/07/06/florida-education-secretary-issues-executive-order-to-reopen-schools-this-fall/ The virtual option is still open, and from what I heard they won’t lose funding based on amount of students. They will only lose funding if the option of 5 day a week in house learning isn’t available. Maybe I’m understanding this wrong but it just seems like another case of leadership telling local leaders "figure it out or else.” I understand the need for schools to be open but on the same hand, as a husband of a teacher, I don’t like these "do it or else” stipulations being put into effect with 20-25% of the national cases coming from this state and our county hospital system saying they are 89% full and expected to reach capacity by the end of the month.
July 7, 20205 yr 15 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: https://www.winknews.com/2020/07/06/emergency-order-florida-brick-and-mortar-schools-must-reopen-in-fall/https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/07/06/florida-education-secretary-issues-executive-order-to-reopen-schools-this-fall/ The virtual option is still open, and from what I heard they won’t lose funding based on amount of students. They will only lose funding if the option of 5 day a week in house learning isn’t available. Maybe I’m understanding this wrong but it just seems like another case of leadership telling local leaders "figure it out or else.” Gotcha. That’s just the re-open order. The Department of Health can override that - but I think you’ll see more coming from the teachers unions themselves. Either way, the schools have to submit a reopen plan that includes a concession for distance learning as well as brick and mortar. Schools that submit the plan get the funding. Which isn’t something abject to the schools, as they have to submit plans to the Board of Education every year for funding. This time around they’re just saying that funding won’t be based on actual heads counted in classrooms, as all previous years have been, but will include those online students as well. IMO..enough teachers say they’re still uncomfortable to come back to school and the order gets shot down.
July 7, 20205 yr I really don’t understand how schools in general will be able to successfully open almost anywhere. If a teachers spouse tests positive, what happens? Two weeks of substitute teaching at minimum? Do students need mandatory COVID testing in that instance to be present? What happens with a school outbreak? What happens if a child dies? What happens when a principal/FOH staff test positive? Seems like just a ton of inevitable interruption is about to happen.
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