April 28, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Not force. Allow. People are forced to stay in doors.
April 28, 20205 yr Yeah, the Smithfield plant in South Dakota offered a $500 bonus if you didn’t miss a shift. So people went to work sick to try to get the extra $500. Now the plant is shut down.
April 28, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Mumbo jumbo Critical jobs are the exception. I'm referring to daily jobs of the vast majority of people. Unless you think we should save a tenth of one percent from a virus by killing millions to starvation. WTF is wrong with you people?
April 28, 20205 yr 15 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Not defending Trump. I happen to believe we're over-reacting to this situation and that will lead to more suffering than necessary. BTW, it's those at the bottom of the economic scale, those who tend to vote democrat, who will suffer the most in a depression. You so called liberals are supposed to give a damn about people at the bottom. It's clear now that you don't give a crap about poor people but only about making political points against Trump. Sick! You're a Fing moron mate. Nobody wants to shut down the economy. Nobody wants to be closed up fro a single second more than we have to. We want to reopen. We also understand that if you take a cake out of the oven before its done, you just wasted the cake and your time. Nobody is trying to overestimate death numbers, or invalidate a VERIFIED treatment, or quit working just to spite Trump. It is madness to suggest that. F'ing madness.
April 28, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Critical jobs are the exception. I'm referring to daily jobs of the vast majority of people. Unless you think we should save a tenth of one percent from a virus by killing millions to starvation. WTF is wrong with you people? So, the government should intervene to save American lives unless it interferes with your life and then it's gone too far. Quite the patriot. Also, thinning the circulation of beef, pork, eggs and chicken wouldn't starve millions. There's plenty of other food out there. No reason for anyone to starve.
April 28, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: You're a Fing moron mate. Nobody wants to shut down the economy. Nobody wants to be closed up fro a single second more than we have to. We want to reopen. We also understand that if you take a cake out of the oven before its done, you just wasted the cake and your time. Nobody is trying to overestimate death numbers, or invalidate a VERIFIED treatment, or quit working just to spite Trump. It is madness to suggest that. F'ing madness. It's blind partisanship and hero worshiping posing as conspiratorial lunacy. The fact that these people would rather look like nutcases than the partisan hacks they are say a lot about how pathetic the guy they're following is.
April 28, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, dawkins4prez said: You're a Fing moron mate. Nobody wants to shut down the economy. Nobody wants to be closed up fro a single second more than we have to. We want to reopen. We also understand that if you take a cake out of the oven before its done, you just wasted the cake and your time. Nobody is trying to overestimate death numbers, or invalidate a VERIFIED treatment, or quit working just to spite Trump. It is madness to suggest that. F'ing madness. BS! We were originally told that the purpose of the shut down of society was to flatten the curve. A move to prevent the healthcare system from being overwhelmed. Well, mission accomplished. There is no danger of the system being overrun with COVID patients. Now we're being told that lock down must remain in place until......what a vaccine is produced? We have to forcibly inject poison into 7 billion before the tyrants loosen their grip?
April 28, 20205 yr 44 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Let me see.....hummmmm, ok. Millions of people lost their jobs. Millions are afraid to go to the hospital and die prematurely. Millions suffer from abusive circumstances attributed to stay at home orders. But I'm sure the increase in deaths can be a result only of the COVI 19 So 15,000 died of neglect in a month. That's your answer?
April 28, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: It's blind partisanship and hero worshiping posing as conspiratorial lunacy. The fact that these people would rather look like nutcases than the partisan hacks they are say a lot about how pathetic the guy they're following is. Another idiot making this about Trump. Are you people so blinded by politics that you cannot see the widespread devastation looming if our economy remains closed? WTF does that have to do with Trump?
April 28, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: BS! We were originally told that the purpose of the shut down of society was to flatten the curve. A move to prevent the healthcare system from being overwhelmed. Well, mission accomplished. There is no danger of the system being overrun with COVID patients. Now we're being told that lock down must remain in place until......what a vaccine is produced? We have to forcibly inject poison into 7 billion before the tyrants loosen their grip? Are you sure you want to keep this one on the recored mate? This thing is 100% guaranteed to be with us for at least the rest of the year. it will spike and fall and spike again all across the country for many months. The decisions to open, close again, reopen again etc will be ongoing throughout. And you wanna declare victory as we barely nudge over the apex of the first wave? This is the danger of listening to President dope, you still have no respect for the scale of what is happening.
April 28, 20205 yr Just now, Toastrel said: So 15,000 died of neglect in a month. That's your answer? I'm saying there could be a myriad of factors. You don't simply attribute a cause without actual data to support it. Unless pseudo-science is your thing.
April 28, 20205 yr 11 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: BS! We were originally told that the purpose of the shut down of society was to flatten the curve. A move to prevent the healthcare system from being overwhelmed. Well, mission accomplished. There is no danger of the system being overrun with COVID patients. Now we're being told that lock down must remain in place until......what a vaccine is produced? We have to forcibly inject poison into 7 billion before the tyrants loosen their grip? There is no danger of the system being overrun with COVID patients because of the shut down of society..... Not sure you're understanding the relationship here.
April 28, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: Are you sure you want to keep this one on the recored mate? This thing is 100% guaranteed to be with us for at least the rest of the year. it will spike and fall and spike again all across the country for many months. The decisions to open, close again, reopen again etc will be ongoing throughout. And you wanna declare victory as we barely nudge over the apex of the first wave? This is the danger of listening to President dope, you still have no respect for the scale of what is happening. Wrong. You believe the BS you're fed because you refuse to think critically. So, for example, we've tested nearly 6 million in the U.S.. Just over 1 million have tested positive. If we extrapolate that across America, nearly 60+ million are already infected. With just around 15,000 serious or critical nationwide, the % of people needing critical care in well within current capacity. That danger has passed.
April 28, 20205 yr 12 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: BS! We were originally told that the purpose of the shut down of society was to flatten the curve. A move to prevent the healthcare system from being overwhelmed. Well, mission accomplished. There is no danger of the system being overrun with COVID patients. Now we're being told that lock down must remain in place until......what a vaccine is produced? We have to forcibly inject poison into 7 billion before the tyrants loosen their grip? no reasonable person, politician or otherwise, is advocating for a lockdown until a vaccine is in place. whether or not you agree with the pace of it, Wolf has a staged plan to open PA for example: https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/04/22/coronavirus-pennsylvania-tom-wolf-lays-out-covid19-reopening-plan/ there's plenty of areas for disagreement with the plan, but the bottom line is that it's a plan that moves towards opening up the state - not locking us down "until a vaccine is in place" so stop with your stupid BS strawman. I don't know why I argue with idiots on the internet.
April 28, 20205 yr Just now, Mlodj said: You would stalk her? Yes but I'd walk instead of drive so she would appreciate that!! No carbon footprint!
April 28, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: I'm saying there could be a myriad of factors. You don't simply attribute a cause without actual data to support it. Unless pseudo-science is your thing. It seems to work for you claiming the numbers are over-reported for dollars.
April 28, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, BirdsFanBill said: There is no danger of the system being overrun with COVID patients because of the shut down of society..... Not sure you're understanding the relationship here. I see you are one with the sheeple as well.
April 28, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Abracadabra said: Wrong. You believe the BS you're fed because you refuse to think critically. So, for example, we've tested nearly 6 million in the U.S.. Just over 1 million have tested positive. If we extrapolate that across America, nearly 60+ million are already infected. With just around 15,000 serious or critical nationwide, the % of people needing critical care in well within current capacity. That danger has passed. Sweet Jeezus you just got almost everything wrong there. The 6 million tested disproportionately have it because they got tested because they had symptoms. So go ahead and extrapolate that to the rest of your argument. The truth is most people in the US have still not been exposed to it, because of the shutdown working (which seems to be the only thing you kind of understand). When we reopen ( and we absolutely should start to in certain places), many more will get exposed. So yes, we need to start reopening. But no this thing is FAAAARRRRR from beat.
April 28, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, BirdsFanBill said: There is no danger of the system being overrun with COVID patients because of the shut down of society..... Not sure you're understanding the relationship here. Wrong. In fact, I supported the initial shut down to flatten the curve. Mission accomplished! We can now move on to managing the disease just the way we do every other. Test. Quarantine the sick. Treat the sick. The rest can go on with our lives.
April 28, 20205 yr 14 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Another idiot making this about Trump. Are you people so blinded by politics that you cannot see the widespread devastation looming if our economy remains closed? WTF does that have to do with Trump? When someone's protesting the "oppressive government" with signs hailing the leader of said government, they're intentions are transparent and blindly political. I agree that there's a give and take between opening to help the economy and staying closed to protect the people but the people that took to the streets and the pretend conspiratorial nutcases that follow them aren't interested in a serious conversation, they're only interested in protecting their hero.
April 28, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, dawkins4prez said: Sweet Jeezus you just got almost everything wrong there. The 6 million tested disproportionately have it because they got tested because they had symptoms. So go ahead and extrapolate that to the rest of your argument. The truth is most people in the US have still not been exposed to it, because of the shutdown working (which seems to be the only thing you kind of understand). When we reopen ( and we absolutely should start to in certain places), many more will get exposed. So yes, we need to start reopening. But no this thing is FAAAARRRRR from beat. Wrong. Only a fraction of those exposed to the virus actually develop symptoms. Some estimates have it at 50% Try again.
April 28, 20205 yr 8 hours ago, Lloyd said: You want us to go to restaurants to keep them making money...and yet keep distance from others to avoid spreading a virus? You dying from the virus is fine. Problem is, you'd take some of us down with you by either spreading it or clogging up the healthcare system with the other "fearless" ones. You can easily seat customers 6 feet apart. I'm glad you guys are all ok with people losing their jobs. That .01% death rate under 50 years old is really threatening. So many people don't care about others because they're doing fine sitting at home getting paid or still working. Over 90% of the country can get this and survive but let's ruin people's lives instead. You do know there's a middle ground between forcing everyone to stay home and going back to normal right?
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