October 21, 20205 yr We went out to eat over the weekend. First time since March. We sat on the patio. Lol
October 21, 20205 yr 48 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: I'll do outdoor distanced dining. Otherwise I support them by getting takeout and tipping as if I dined in. I was talking with the owner of Nick's in Broadway awhile back, it's been really really tough for independent restaurants around here. Luckily pretty much all of them have adapted some kind of takeout situation, even the nice restaurants in town. We've had a couple of restaurants go out of biz already on main street in EG already. They weren't my favorites, but I suspect that others will follow. Feel bad for these guys. Can't imagine what it must be like for people in places like LA and NYC that have been under extended lockdown.
October 21, 20205 yr 16 minutes ago, Bill said: This was unnecessary. He wasn’t speaking politically. Lol
October 21, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, The Norseman said: We've had a couple of restaurants go out of biz already on main street in EG already. They weren't my favorites, but I suspect that others will follow. Feel bad for these guys. Can't imagine what it must be like for people in places like LA and NYC that have been under extended lockdown. They try to do take-out if they can’t be open for inside dining. How do you not know this?
October 21, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: They try to do take-out if they can. How do you not know this? I'm sure those that are able to do takeout have quadrupled their profits during Covid. I wasn't making a political statement, just an observation. Relax.
October 21, 20205 yr 16 minutes ago, The Norseman said: I'm sure those that are able to do takeout have quadrupled their profits during Covid. I wasn't making a political statement, just an observation. Relax. I think the most victimized group is the waitstaff who can’t make a living.
October 21, 20205 yr 21 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I think the most victimized group is the waitstaff who can’t make a living. What about the bus boys? Or the dishwashers? Surely you can find someone of a lower social strata to defend.
October 21, 20205 yr 51 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: They try to do take-out if they can’t be open for inside dining. How do you not know this? take out is never going to be as profitable as dine-in. the biggest margins are drinks as I understand it. in some places food is close to break-even, and they make their profit on drinks alone. pizza is one of the few types of restaurants that can exist almost solely on take-out business because the margins on the pizza itself are pretty high. if a restaurant has to exist solely on food take-out, then the prices would have to jump significantly in order for the business to keep the lights on.
October 21, 20205 yr 35 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: take out is never going to be as profitable as dine-in. the biggest margins are drinks as I understand it. in some places food is close to break-even, and they make their profit on drinks alone. pizza is one of the few types of restaurants that can exist almost solely on take-out business because the margins on the pizza itself are pretty high. if a restaurant has to exist solely on food take-out, then the prices would have to jump significantly in order for the business to keep the lights on. Oh yeah, i get that. Restaurants and bars are in a tough spot. 43 minutes ago, The Norseman said: What about the bus boys? Or the dishwashers? Surely you can find someone of a lower social strata to defend. Forgot about the bus boys. My bad.
October 21, 20205 yr 40 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Forgot about the bus boys. My bad. What about the bus girls? Sexist.
October 21, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: take out is never going to be as profitable as dine-in. the biggest margins are drinks as I understand it. in some places food is close to break-even, and they make their profit on drinks alone. pizza is one of the few types of restaurants that can exist almost solely on take-out business because the margins on the pizza itself are pretty high. if a restaurant has to exist solely on food take-out, then the prices would have to jump significantly in order for the business to keep the lights on. A lot of places up here have started doing takeout bottles of their premixed cocktails. Which is nice. I'm sure it isn't even close to the volume it was but I'm sure it helps a bit. Getting takeout bellinis for brunch this summer was a weird feeling.
October 21, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: A lot of places up here have started doing takeout bottles of their premixed cocktails. Which is nice. I'm sure it isn't even close to the volume it was but I'm sure it helps a bit. Getting takeout bellinis for brunch this summer was a weird feeling. Yeah some places are starting to do some interesting takeout cocktails.. but that can't replace the volume of a bar unfortunately.
October 21, 20205 yr 11 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Yeah some places are starting to do some interesting takeout cocktails.. but that can't replace the volume of a bar unfortunately. It can if you're doing it right.
October 21, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Yeah some places are starting to do some interesting takeout cocktails.. but that can't replace the volume of a bar unfortunately. Nope not even close. Impression I got from the one guy I know up here is that they would be very lucky to crack even 50% of their typical revenue stream even with takeout, outdoor dining and limited indoor dining all in full swing. And that's for a very well established and liked restaurant downtown. It's rough.
October 22, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, Bill said: My old chief is moving down to Florida. Apparently in the Poconos there are six buyers for every house on the market, so if you’re looking to sell now is the time to do it. IMO credit is going to be hard to come by in a few years so if you’re going to buy now is the time to do it. It's definitely a sellers market. We just bought a new home and put our home on the market. So we're basically seeing both ends of it. Our house is listed at a price that we wouldn't even dream of listing it at a few months ago, but at the same time when we were looking to buy, the prices are inflated as well so you're buying something that you could have gotten for significantly cheaper a few months ago. The common misconception is that when interest rates are so low like this, it give you more buying power. You'll hear realtors say things like, "you can afford more house now since the rates are so low". That's not true. Low interest rates result in inflated asset prices. So when interest rates drop, home prices go up, so you can't afford more house. The only thing you can more afford is more debt.
October 22, 20205 yr I seem to recall a long discussion a few months ago with some people claiming to have a father in New York and some other idiot trying to claim that likely COVID deaths was higher than reported, something to do with the number of excess deaths. Well the CDC just came out and said 100,000 excess deaths were due to lockdowns, not COVID
October 22, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: I seem to recall a long discussion a few months ago with some people claiming to have a father in New York and some other idiot trying to claim that likely COVID deaths was higher than reported, something to do with the number of excess deaths. Well the CDC just came out and said 100,000 excess deaths were due to lockdowns, not COVID And now you want your apology, right?
October 22, 20205 yr 56 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: I seem to recall a long discussion a few months ago with some people claiming to have a father in New York and some other idiot trying to claim that likely COVID deaths was higher than reported, something to do with the number of excess deaths. Well the CDC just came out and said 100,000 excess deaths were due to lockdowns, not COVID No, that's not what they said, though it's obvious it's what you wanted to hear, trumpbot.
October 22, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: I seem to recall a long discussion a few months ago with some people claiming to have a father in New York and some other idiot trying to claim that likely COVID deaths was higher than reported, something to do with the number of excess deaths. Well the CDC just came out and said 100,000 excess deaths were due to lockdowns, not COVID Oh brother....... no, that’s not what the CDC said. And yes, the "Official” COVID death count is very likely an undercount. Anyone who has an understanding of the data knows this.
October 22, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: I seem to recall a long discussion a few months ago with some people claiming to have a father in New York and some other idiot trying to claim that likely COVID deaths was higher than reported, something to do with the number of excess deaths. Well the CDC just came out and said 100,000 excess deaths were due to lockdowns, not COVID No they didn't. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm They're saying that about 300,000 excess deaths have occured this year in the US and we know for sure that 210ish (at the time of the report) are confirmed COVID deaths. That's it. There are zero claims that those deaths were caused by lockdowns or suicide or whatever other nonsense you're trying to peddle. If you bothered to read the paper you would know they even specifically discuss the possibility of those deaths being related to COVID or COVID-related healthcare systemic overburden/underutilization: Quote "Finally, estimates of excess deaths attributed to COVID-19 might underestimate the actual number directly attributable to COVID-19, because deaths from other causes might represent misclassified COVID-19–related deaths or deaths indirectly caused by the pandemic. Specifically, deaths from circulatory diseases, Alzheimer disease and dementia, and respiratory diseases have increased in 2020 relative to past years (7), and it is unclear to what extent these represent misclassified COVID-19 deaths or deaths indirectly related to the pandemic (e.g., because of disruptions in health care access or utilization)." A big spike in circulatory and respiratory disease deaths huh? Gee whiz must be the lockdowns! If you're going to try and call someone else an idiot maybe actually read the report you're commenting on next time. So beyond tired of this ignorant BS.
October 22, 20205 yr 7 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: What about the bus girls? Sexist. What about all the others?
October 22, 20205 yr 7 hours ago, DEagle7 said: No they didn't. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm They're saying that about 300,000 excess deaths have occured this year in the US and we know for sure that 210ish (at the time of the report) are confirmed COVID deaths. That's it. There are zero claims that those deaths were caused by lockdowns or suicide or whatever other nonsense you're trying to peddle. If you bothered to read the paper you would know they even specifically discuss the possibility of those deaths being related to COVID or COVID-related healthcare systemic overburden/underutilization: A big spike in circulatory and respiratory disease deaths huh? Gee whiz must be the lockdowns! If you're going to try and call someone else an idiot maybe actually read the report you're commenting on next time. So beyond tired of this ignorant BS.
October 22, 20205 yr 44 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Hmmm, that's actually a good point. I never thought about it that way. I think you're right, it's almost as bad as the genocide Russians are suffering through right now. Truly sad.
October 22, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Hmmm, that's actually a good point. I never thought about it that way. I think you're right, it's almost as bad as the genocide Russians are suffering through right now. Truly sad. What the hell is that? Lol. Did he just disprove his own point?? Lmao.
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