November 12, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, binkybink77 said: Besides, the left prefers to make their victims children in the streets of urban areas and helpless unborn babies - save the grandmas, kill the babies! Why oh why did this post make me think of: Quote If The Heat Doesn't Kill The Elderly, I Will It is now high summer, and the sun is broiling the American Southwest, sending temperatures soaring upwards of 110 degrees. The heat has struck hardest among the elderly, dozens of whom have died of heatstroke, heat exhaustion and dehydration. If you, like me, are a right-thinking person, your mind recoils in horror at this fact: The old and decrepit are dying by mere dozens? Fifty years ago, a heat wave of this magnitude and duration would have claimed the lives of hundreds, perhaps thousands of shriveled-up old codgers. The streets would have been littered with their withered carcasses. Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. By providing today's elderly with unprecedented access to air conditioning and situating them in safe, supervised retirement communities, we have thrown Mother Nature's natural-selection process completely out of sync. And don't look for winter to solve the problem, either: Even more old people have heating than have air-conditioning, and more and more are getting it every day. Like you, I had high hopes for this summer. Like you, I am deeply disappointed in the low death toll among the elderly. But I'm not just going to throw up my hands and accept the fact that grandmas and grandpas aren't bursting like popcorn from coast to coast. Just because global warming has failed to keep pace with the increase in this country's septuagenarian and octogenarian population doesn't mean I have to accept this ever-worsening coot surplus. If the heat doesn't kill the elderly, I will. No society can survive for long unless patriots are willing to step forward and dedicate themselves to keeping its senior population in check. Unfortunately, like the milkman and the riverboat pilot, the profession of grayhead-knocker has fallen out of favor. But I am committed to reviving this once-noble calling. I will do whatever it takes to knock off the olds in the swiftest and most efficient manner possible, just like my father and my grandfather before him. For the cost of expenses plus a modest cost-of-living stipend, I will use the computer database of the AARP, certain advanced logistical procedures adopted from the rendering-plant industry, and modern American riding-mower technology—the very best in the world—to make quick work of our country's problematic gray ghetto. My preliminary computer-modeling simulations have shown that this will be cheaper than an orbital solar-intensification magnifying glass or increasing the thermonuclear output of the sun itself. Mother Nature has done what she can to curb the elderly population. It is now up to us to pick up the slack. If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. My grandmother taught me that, God rest her soul.
November 12, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, binkybink77 said: Speaking of China virus - they have been inocculating thousands of people with unapproved vaccines. What could go wrong? https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/11/12/933956247/china-is-inoculating-thousands-with-unapproved-covid-19-vaccines-why It's 2020 so.....
November 12, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, toolg said: Hey everybody! Since that China virus was just a hoax to get Trump ousted, let's go cruising in the Caribbean again. What could go wrong? Seriously. Who approved this? Who didn't see this coming when they started this again? Cruise ships were literally one of the first vectors reported for bringing the virus into the country earlier this year. They're germ incubators. Cruises should absolutely be banned. My opinion has nothing to do with the pandemic.
November 12, 20204 yr 8 hours ago, binkybink77 said: Speaking of China virus - they have been inocculating thousands of people with unapproved vaccines. What could go wrong? https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/11/12/933956247/china-is-inoculating-thousands-with-unapproved-covid-19-vaccines-why China beats trump again, steals his lunch. 😂
November 13, 20204 yr 33 minutes ago, DBW said: China beats trump again, steals his lunch. 😂 I'm very pro vaccine but man rushed vaccines coming out of China and Russia...yeah I'm good. I'll take the Rona.
November 13, 20204 yr Top story on abc tonight. The lines are large at Dodger Stadium and in NYC for tests. Positivity rates are up in my county and surrounding. I cancelled a dinner date with a friend and we didn’t reschedule. I want to see my family, but thinking we may have to just do a zoom. Wtf oh and Chicago issued a stay at home order today.
November 13, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, xBMTx said: Exactly. The idiots ruin it for everyone else. That should basically be the tagline for this whole F'ing year. 2020: The Idiots Ruin It For Everyone
November 13, 20204 yr 35 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: I'm very pro vaccine but man rushed vaccines coming out of China and Russia...yeah I'm good. I'll take the Rona. I give those a zero point zero chance of being approved by the FDA.
November 13, 20204 yr Ontario has set a new daily record for cases like 4 days in a row now (today was 1,575). The government released projections this afternoon saying that if nothing changes, we'll hit 2,000 cases per day before the end of November, and up to 6,500 per day by Christmas. We're effed.
November 13, 20204 yr didn't know which thread to post this in.. whether a trump thread or this one, but thought it fit here better:
November 13, 20204 yr Just now, EaglesRocker97 said: Well, my school just went to all-virtual for the rest of the month. My school decided to eliminate hybrid and now we have to pick either traditional or virtual. Most are going traditional. It seems incredibly stupid to push more kids to be in 5 days rather than keeping things as they are and taking a wait and see with cases spiking.
November 13, 20204 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: It seems incredibly stupid to push more kids to be in 5 days rather than keeping things as they are and taking a wait and see with cases spiking. Yeah, that's not smart.
November 13, 20204 yr 5 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Yeah, that's not smart. I get schools not wanting to overreact. At the elementary school level outbreaks have been very rare globally. It's the upper classes and colleges that have seen bigger issues. We're on our 3rd month of hybrid. Two of every four teachers is teaching a smallish traditional class, and the other two teachers are hybrid and virtual. We have no idea if we're going to get assigned the same teacher, or if we're going to be shuffling kids around. Some that go virtual night not even be assigned a teacher at the same school. It's stupid.
November 13, 20204 yr Do they give a real reason as to why cases have spiked like crazy all of a sudden? Dem dems is real smart!
November 13, 20204 yr 13 minutes ago, hputenis said: Do they give a real reason as to why cases have spiked like crazy all of a sudden? Dem dems is real smart! I mean, obviously none of that helps, but we've been spiking for weeks.
November 13, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, hputenis said: Do they give a real reason as to why cases have spiked like crazy all of a sudden? Dem dems is real smart! If salt killed the rona, you'd be immune for a while.
November 13, 20204 yr 16 hours ago, IFB DOG said: Fauci's background is in clinical and laboratory work. The person the GBD was forwarded from worked with him when they were dealing with rheumatology in the 80s. His greatest contribution to epidemiology was through his HIV work. He is obviously someone to be admired, and listened to, but he's not infallible. He's also looking at the problem through a VERY limited scope - how to limit infection, hospitalizations and deaths, even if those measures are causing much greater problems that NOBODY is talking about. Mental health is already a major problem in this country... do you think COVID protocols are going to help? When businesses are shutdown for good? People don't see their families? Children are staring at computer screens all day?? Stanford is working towards trying to find a correlation between masks and herd immunity. With the ability to limit particulate matter, masks could be allowing spread to continue but with a much slower infection rate, thus giving our immune systems a chance to fight it off and become asymptomatic. I love listening to those conference calls. May I suggest you just give up on the idea of a nuanced discussion with a set of posters in here. Some are fully capable but clearly others are not. The basic idea that this is a super complex situation with many sides, scenarios, angles etc is simply lost on some of them and by this point they are 1000% dug in. Others are capable and interested in continuing to learn and adjust as we deal with this thing.
November 13, 20204 yr 17 hours ago, DEagle7 said: My opinion is that shut downs may be the best thing if cases continue to trend the way they are if we start to approach overwhelming our hospital systems. They should be as targeted and short lived as possible based on the best available data. If we think back to the beginning this was the mantra from the medical community, "flatten the curve". We seem to have forgotten this key point. Trying to lock everything down and get to zero isn't the answer (save for maybe New Zealand who has a very special geographic advantage). Smart measures aimed at keeping the hospitals from being overrun, protecting as many people as possible, and in parallel still allowing for education and commerce to continue at some level is the optimal cocktail (super hard to achieve, dynamic, and very much context sensitive). Anyone on any side that simply shuts down the conversation with phrases like "you are a moron" or similar is part of the problem and not part of the solution.
November 13, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, DrPhilly said: If we think back to the beginning this was the mantra from the medical community, "flatten the curve". We seem to have forgotten this key point. Trying to lock everything down and get to zero isn't the answer (save for maybe New Zealand who has a very special geographic advantage). Smart measures aimed at keeping the hospitals from being overrun, protecting as many people as possible, and in parallel still allowing for education and commerce to continue at some level is the optimal cocktail (super hard to achieve, dynamic, and very much context sensitive). Anyone on any side that simply shuts down the conversation with phrases like "you are a moron" or similar is part of the problem and not part of the solution. There's a problem? What problem? You mean other than the one where a large portion of the population is seemingly determined to kill themselves and others because they can't be bothered to cover their stupid face with a piece of cloth? Sorry, but I'm fresh out of F's to give on this. I've lost all my patience. I'm done trying to talk sense into anyone anymore. And for the record, there is no "nuance" on masks, only a stubborn persistence to ignore science in light of hundreds of thousands of deaths. It honestly sickens me as it should for you.
November 13, 20204 yr 9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: There's a problem? What problem? You mean other than the one where a large portion of the population is seemingly determined to kill themselves and others because they can't be bothered to cover their stupid face with a piece of cloth? Sorry, but I'm fresh out of F's to give on this. I've lost all my patience. I'm done trying to talk sense into anyone anymore. And for the record, there is no "nuance" on masks, only a stubborn persistence to ignore science in light of hundreds of thousands of deaths. It honestly sickens me as it should for you. we'd all be better off if you just leave this thread.
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